rangeelaraja Posted June 11 Author Posted June 11 Why blame so called import babus, when the culture is rotten deep within ? Beyond shameful. This company must be blacklisted and the CEO be held accountable and face the law. singhvivek141 1
G_B_ Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Upto 500 k9 vajra is right call. Worked vert well and even polish are saying its very good. singhvivek141 and Lone Wolf 2
singhvivek141 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 27 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Upto 500 k9 vajra is right call. Worked vert well and even polish are saying its very good. Vajra has attained attention because the Sharang guns were a total flop, even getting structural damage while firing, which is completely unacceptable. With 300 Sharang guns lying unused...Army needed an alternative, quick fix...where Vajra came in. Dhanush, ATAGS and Howitzer needs to be towed...that gives Vajra an unique ability to shoot and scoot Lone Wolf 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Blackpill of the day Zorawar... Apparently import lobby wants an opportunity to reject Zorawar and lobby hard for Russian Sprut SD lol.. classic
IndianRenegade Posted June 11 Posted June 11 (edited) Rajanath should put his big boy pants on & shove it down the army's throat, any deficiencies should be addressed down the line. He should make it clear the only way a imported light tank will roll on indian soil is if it rolls on the body of the army chief & CDS. Edited June 11 by IndianRenegade singhvivek141 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 11 Posted June 11 we are literally copy pasting Pookistan playbook Blatantly trying to fool public
Lone Wolf Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, IndianRenegade said: Rajanath should put his big boy pants on & shove it down the army's throat, any deficiencies should be addressed down the line. He should make it clear the only way a imported light tank will roll on indian soil is if it rolls on the body of the army chief & CDS. He doesn't has the knowledge or he has himself given up and is least interested in cleaning this mess. Parrikar used to be very blunt with the Army, his famous quote btw "if we listen to army req then the Tank gonna fly" He very well knew what plagues the system. Playbook has always been simple
singhvivek141 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 46 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Blackpill of the day Zorawar... Apparently import lobby wants an opportunity to reject Zorawar and lobby hard for Russian Sprut SD lol.. classic Alpha Defence was extremely sad today on the X. Zorawar was doing so well, but sadly Army felt that it doesnt have sufficient defence and wants more. He was also sad that IAF is still flying Jaguars and buying scraps from Ecuador to collect the spares for maintenance. Navy & CoastGuard most resilient in terms of demands, jo mil raha hai le lo, and work on its improvement. Lone Wolf 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Alpha Defence was extremely sad today on the X. Zorawar was doing so well, but sadly Army felt that it doesnt have sufficient defence and wants more. He was also sad that IAF is still flying Jaguars and buying scraps from Ecuador to collect the spares for maintenance. Navy & CoastGuard most resilient in terms of demands, jo mil raha hai le lo, and work on its improvement. Cut commision lobby is working overtime for Sprut SD Things were so gloomy today that even Chinese PLA osint accounts started to feel bad about IDDM
singhvivek141 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Just like Indian Fast bowling selections, even the Indian Defence selections are dimwitted. Instead of selecting the desi fast bowler who can go big if given an opportunity, defence forces is eyeing to pull in foreign fast bowlers (aka military equipments) to form their IPL team...and if someone will get injured, then they will desperately search for a desi replacement or buy a mediocre foreign bowler at an exorbitant price.
singhvivek141 Posted June 11 Posted June 11 11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Cut commision lobby is working overtime for Sprut SD Things were so gloomy today that even Chinese PLA osint accounts started to feel bad about IDDM I was watching a video of Pacific Steel comparing Taragiri with a Chinese vessel of similar class. Chinese are using everything homegrown, we are using radar from Israel, guns from x, torpedoes from y. Felt bad that a warship whom we call as our own, even the visible guns, radars and torpedoes are foreign exported. Indian defence forces needn't limit themselves only to Pakistan...their primary enemy is China, preparation should be how to counter China in case of a long war. And you need weapons and ammunitions manufactured in house, not imported from a third party on 8x-10x times price. Lone Wolf 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 12 Posted June 12 10 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: I was watching a video of Pacific Steel comparing Taragiri with a Chinese vessel of similar class. Chinese are using everything homegrown, we are using radar from Israel, guns from x, torpedoes from y. Felt bad that a warship whom we call as our own, even the visible guns, radars and torpedoes are foreign exported. Indian defence forces needn't limit themselves only to Pakistan...their primary enemy is China, preparation should be how to counter China in case of a long war. And you need weapons and ammunitions manufactured in house, not imported from a third party on 8x-10x times price. R&D budget itself is peanuts and unfortunately the technical know how to create sophisticated systems and subsystems doesn't exist in the country and hence Israeli and Western dependence isn't going away anytime soon. We are minimum 15-20 years behind China in this regard. The Navy Chief admiral talked about this, that this is the biggest leap that country would have to take someday. As of now India cannot remotely take on China in a long war that has been established. But we can create minimum conventional detterance at least in next 10 -12 years. If Airforce and Armed forces become half as competent like Indian Navy it will be achievable. When you are even importing UAVs and Drones from Israel and Belarus and doing a paint job to call it indigenous then obviously IDDM is doomed and Western slavery won't stop. G_B_ and singhvivek141 1 1
G_B_ Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Long war i thing post ukraine russia and even iran Usa, I simply dont think its as straight forward for china to take on india.
Lone Wolf Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Pakistan going for Israeli doctrine arming its SSK's with nuclear tipped Babur 3 after Chinese refusals on SSBN @singhvivek141 as expected Poor man's SSBN but sheer stupidity in a sense as it can blur conventional and nuclear exchange during fog of war. https://defence.in/threads/how-vulnerabilities-in-pakistans-hangor-aip-submarines-challenge-the-credibility-of-its-babur-3-sea-based-deterrent-against-india.17994/ singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted June 12 Posted June 12 44 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Pakistan going for Israeli doctrine arming its SSK's with nuclear tipped Babur 3 after Chinese refusals on SSBN @singhvivek141 as expected Poor man's SSBN but sheer stupidity in a sense as it can blur conventional and nuclear exchange during fog of war. https://defence.in/threads/how-vulnerabilities-in-pakistans-hangor-aip-submarines-challenge-the-credibility-of-its-babur-3-sea-based-deterrent-against-india.17994/ If there is gonna be a nuclear war, I am 100% sure the primary reason would be Pookistan.. They just want a toy as to show against India, without thinking of the consequence (and why should they, the ones who are in control, their families is safe in West). Brahmos, just like Babur 3 is also a nuclear capable missile...but we have used it strictly for conventional purposes to remove this ambiguity. Pakistan is hell bent on blurring the lines coz they're an irrational nation. Tomorrow if India starts deploying K15 or K4 in Scorpenes or Warships...it would elevate the risk of a Nuclear War by 1000 times...Pooks dont get that. Lone Wolf 1
rangeelaraja Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 On 6/11/2026 at 2:34 PM, singhvivek141 said: I was watching a video of Pacific Steel comparing Taragiri with a Chinese vessel of similar class. Chinese are using everything homegrown, we are using radar from Israel, guns from x, torpedoes from y. Felt bad that a warship whom we call as our own, even the visible guns, radars and torpedoes are foreign exported. Indian defence forces needn't limit themselves only to Pakistan...their primary enemy is China, preparation should be how to counter China in case of a long war. And you need weapons and ammunitions manufactured in house, not imported from a third party on 8x-10x times price. Chinese were sanctioned from western defense exports - after the Tiananmen square massacre in 1989. They simply had no option but to figure out everything themself. They bought whatever Russia was willing to sell, reverse engineered, mass produced and got better and better. We were spoilt for choices - buying from Russia plus the best that NATO had to offer and so we just din't develop the appetite or ambition to be self reliant. It will take sanctions for the very best of Indian ingenuity to come together and kick some ass/ singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Chinese were sanctioned from western defense exports - after the Tiananmen square massacre in 1989. They simply had no option but to figure out everything themself. They bought whatever Russia was willing to sell, reverse engineered, mass produced and got better and better. We were spoilt for choices - buying from Russia plus the best that NATO had to offer and so we just din't develop the appetite or ambition to be self reliant. It will take sanctions for the very best of Indian ingenuity to come together and kick some ass/ China also got unprecedented support from US in 1960s, after the China USSR conflict...Post which US jumped in and threatened to Nuke USSR. After that China was in good books of US and they used it as a cheap factory yard to manufacture their goods and support via arms, to create a threat against the backyard of USSR. India on the other hand was bitten by the bug of socialism and communism. Instead of working on the development, we creeped into the dark world of license raj and other British era bureaucratic laws which has kept us fractured and divided even now. rangeelaraja 1
singhvivek141 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 AD successfully tested for Ballistic Missiles and ICBM. Lone Wolf 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 13 Posted June 13 (edited) 19 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: AD successfully tested for Ballistic Missiles and ICBM. First pic is NASM MR, IAF is very interested in its air launched version Edited June 13 by Lone Wolf singhvivek141 1
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