Sachinism Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 akhtar needs to shed plenty of weight.. and freddie i believe with his lunatic behavour.. might not end up touring INdia again.. i have a feeling Freddie will be dangerous, watch Link to comment
bharat297 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Harmison, Flintoff, Anderson and Sidebottom are all gonna be dangerous. Stuart Broad is gonna be as much of a threat to us as Phil Tufnell. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 i won't be surprised if Hoggard is picked all of a sudden. he has had some success in India Link to comment
bharat297 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I dont know why he is not in the side ... He is 10 times better than Stuart Broad. Broady is not fit to clean Hoggards shoes. I mean, they have Flintoff as an all-rounder so they dont need Broad for his batting. Link to comment
MundaPakistani Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 One thing is for sure that ENG have far more skillful bowlers than AUS. Their batting on the other hand is quite inconsistent. Link to comment
bharat297 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 ^ Yes ... With the exception of Broad ... the rest of their bowlers actually understand that swing (conventional or reverse) doesnt happen unless you keep the seam upright. Link to comment
PakFan Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Ishant needs to get some 10 fers in tests like Steyn so that his avg can get around 25. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 4 wickets on day 1. He is already ranked 20. I expect a surge up the rankings after this series Link to comment
EnterTheVoid Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 This might help reduce his average :D [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slfUnlM71d0&feature=related]YouTube - The worst cricket leave of all time?[/ame] LMAO :hysterical: :haha: Link to comment
bharat297 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 In my opinion what puts Ishant above Steyn is the steep bounce that Ishant can get. I really really hope this guy can remain focused on his cricket for several years to come ... because he could be the guy that catapults us to No.1 in the world. Steyn however still pips Ishant for raw pace i think, although Ishant i think would be scarier to face. Also, his temperament so far has been second to none. Over the past year and a half I have seen this guy get smashed one over and come back a few overs later with a rip-snorter. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 He is still only 20. Yes 20:agree: He is bowling nice speeds of 140 but puts it on the money with movement. I would think when he is 24 or 25 he should be clocking more in the region of mid to high 140s regularly with same accuracy, movement and bounce. Link to comment
SachDan Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 This might help reduce his average :D YouTube - The worst cricket leave of all time? LMAO :hysterical: :haha: omg :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 a long-long long way to go for Ishant.for this to happen we have to play more tests and he has to be injury free too.I think he will get there by the end of 2010 if he remains injury free. Link to comment
Fontaine Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Ishant will never be the number 1 ranked bowler for any sustained period. When you play half your tests in India there's no chance of that ever happening unless they change the pitches here drastically. Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Ishant will never be the number 1 ranked bowler for any sustained period. When you play half your tests in India there's no chance of that ever happening unless they change the pitches here drastically. Disagree actually. Ishant's averages 24 in India from 8 tests..that comfortably beats all his performances outside the sub-continent.And the tests have all been against top quality opposition..he isn't likely to face better set of batsmen on Indian soil.So playing 50% of the matches in India shouldn't hinder him anyway.. Link to comment
Fontaine Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Disagree actually. Ishant's averages 24 in India from 8 tests..that comfortably beats all his performances outside the sub-continent.And the tests have all been against top quality opposition..he isn't likely to face better set of batsmen on Indian soil.So playing 50% of the matches in India shouldn't hinder him anyway.. I though this was about his future (not his past)! :winky: Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I though this was about his future (not his past)! :winky: You certainly could argue it that way but imo its not a coincidence that he averages way better in India than elsewhere.The success has come about as a result of a definite method rather than luck/fluik. The fact we play with the SG ball here and the mastery which Zak and he have displayed over reverse swing is a huge plus.Certainly, if he fails to get to the top spot..this can't be considered a valid excuse.I expect him to get there though maybe in a couple of years.He is far from the finished product. Link to comment
Ram Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Ishant bowled well no doubt, but Zak bowled equally well if not better. His figures don’t do justice to the way he bowled. And that’s been the story of Zak’s career really. His career numbers are not flattering, but he could have easily gotten 35-40 wickets more. Link to comment
Fontaine Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Ishant bowled well no doubt' date=' but Zak bowled equally well if not better. His figures don’t do justice to the way he bowled. And that’s been the story of Zak’s career really. His career numbers are not flattering, but he could have easily gotten 35-40 wickets more.[/quote'] That's the life of a swing bowler. High risk, sometimes little reward. He pitched it up beautifully after lunch when neither Patel nor Sharma were getting much out of the pitch. He got the ball to move both ways, got several edges that didn't find a fielder, two decent LBW shouts that were hitting leg stump but it was all for nothing as Vettori/Ryder hung on by the skin of their teeth. You certainly could argue it that way but imo its not a coincidence that he averages way better in India than elsewhere.The success has come about as a result of a definite method rather than luck/fluik. The fact we play with the SG ball here and the mastery which Zak and he have displayed over reverse swing is a huge plus.Certainly' date=' if he fails to get to the top spot..this can't be considered a valid excuse.I expect him to get there though maybe in a couple of years.He is far from the finished product.[/quote'] Maybe, we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 With Steyn and Johnson around bowling on much more conducive wickets, I doubt Ishant will ever be ranked number 1 in the official rankings. Link to comment
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