fineleg Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 one correction rajan - while there are many that may joke about me, i dont mind those as long as they are within realms of decency. I dont worry abt h4te, or flamy, or holy, or even salil who often says something abt me. These people state their opinion abt me, fine, as long as it is done decently. no issues. there is only ONE person (sometmes two when zuby uses such filthy lang, but only one primarily) who uses filthy words to abuse, and as i have mentioned before to rajeev in the above post - I can play his game. Rajeev is right - BEST WAY to tackle him is to hit back at the attacker. next time he tries to use such language against me, i can play that same game. so, no need to continue this, i only mentioned the above to clarify and state my position. This thread can continue about Badri - if no one has anything to say on Badri, then thats fine. But no need to continue about my issues here in this thread. I'm capable of dishing it back to predator in similar language that he employs if needed.
Rajiv Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Rajan Fineleg Although life seems perfect, but it's not and I cannot deny different rules for different sets of people - and that is the case everywhere; it's a fact I was providing alternatives earlier and please pay attention to my example of being aloof on a board which tries to get closer Also, I am not sure if you guys have handled a site before - when 10 ppl are involved, you have to consider each others opinion If I were sole owner - would I have handled it differently? maybe
fineleg Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 Rajan Fineleg Although life seems perfect, but it's not and I cannot deny different rules for different sets of people - and that is the case everywhere; it's a fact If I were sole owner - would I have handled it differently? maybe Thanks for being honest, Rajeev. Appreciate that :hatsoff: Atleast you have the forthrighteousness to clearly say that there are different rules, and while you'd like it to be same for all people, there are reasons beyond your one person. It takes guts to be honest and explain the real situation behind. Thanks. :thumbs_up: I agree that what you state is reality, and acknowledge that sometimes different rules and favoritism is there and that is part of what is there in real world. Dont worry abt Predator here after. The bugger will get it back in full flow - no holds barred, no language barred, nothing barred. He tries any tricks, tries any filthy language - no need for Mods to interfere, I will make sure he gets it back 10x he delivers. I wont attack him as long as he stays out of my way - No first attack from me. He just needs to stay out of my way, and also respect for other folks' region, city, religion, language, food, culture etc. (harmless IPL fun, banter on teams, city is ok - thats all to be expected). No firsst attack from me will be there on him. What is past is past, and I will not re-start those. But one thing I will tell you - if he DELETES or MOVES my posts unfairly, then I am going to contact you or other Moderator(s) and expect you to be fair in re-instating my posts after fairly evaluating whether the move or deletion was uncalled for. For the rest of his filty language attacks on me, I'll handle him myself - he'll get his due back from me if he tries such stunts.
Rajiv Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 FL, I will never indulge in any of those things - as I have said before, am trying to make harmony than create a war like situation and no other mod/admin will bother , trust me I am simply asking to make things work, and while you have quoted me above, you have erased the part about your identity and that is a big part IMO
fineleg Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 Rajeev, I dont want any warlike situation. I'll make it even simpler - as far as possible, 1. Stay out of harm's way: (try to atleast) I'll try my best to ignore that guy. That way things wont flare up. Its hard to ignore everything - once in a while, if he attacks then I react sometimes. But as much as I can, I'll ignore him going forward. That'll make life a bit easier for all. This will need some co-operation, since if I stay out of his way, hopefully he'll avoid direct attack on me as well. 2. No need for RD vs SRT: Plus - and this maybe a big thing - as I've mentioned before in another thread I've not been criticizing Tendu recently for some months, and laying off that for the most part. That will ease some tensions as well, since that has been one major thing. So, support SRT(for the most part), and it will be easier on everyone! No need to keep the RD versus SRT up. Both are legends, and both deserve praise. I think the above two are the major ones. I have never been upset when ppl make fun of me in harmless manner or bantering or when doc said "hermaphrodite" - for the most part I take it jovially...that's all banter and I'm cool. So, above two should make things lot better, is my hope.
Rajiv Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 FL, see - even here , I am reluctant to give a honest answer - at least with predator, I know his name ( form what he told me ) , you are dodging the point I made before I say hello, I am Rajeev - I get a burkha clan woman who says I am sorry I can sit at your table but wont say who I am , what my name is but will debate even if you like it or not
fineleg Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 I'm not dodging you rajeev. Regarding my personal profile, right when I joined this forum in 2007, I mentioned I'm interested in being 100% anon (and 100, not 98, 99), and I clearly remember either you or it may be Bumper, ravi or other Mods saying that is perfectly fine, since only my posts and views will be debated, argued etc, not who I am or what religion or gender I am. It may be mysterious to some - and thats ok,thats not the point. Focus is not who I am, it is what I'm writing about a topic - be it a player, a match situation, Lalu Yadav, or US economy. That is the thing in anonymous forum. Even if someone says a/s/l no one knows. Like beetle often says, for all you know she can be a big hairy man (just kidding Rads :D) I mean, I can always say I'm 23/female/USA - and who knows if I'm 30/female/UK or 25/male/USA. It doesnt matter. The issues that happened were totally because of other reasons, not because of whether I'm so and so. Thats why I said ISSUE #1 and ISSUE #2 above if I'm careful on those, most things will become easier - since that is the real issues. (http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=580211&postcount=47)
fineleg Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 ^ To add - every decision has pros and cons - and everything has tradeoffs we have to make sometimes to maintain confidentiality for various reasons or just individual preferences, even though sometimes it appears to other people as cryptic or stupid or "I can't understand why?" This is why different people make different choices - coz they are all very different in life. Bottomline our views are debated, not who we are.
EnterTheVoid Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 rajeev, you're not the sole owner? Who else owns this site and for how long has this been here?
Rajiv Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 You made this sound like a courtroom where people swear by mods, all I was trying to do is bring up the part of mingling and you place the anonymity debate clause, why would anyone wanna be friends with you? Also, if someone praises or calls SRT god or parmatma, why does it become a national issue?, so be it - some people are having fun, your counter attack may come as an annoyance and to be frank even after my posts above, I am getting the same feeling but my tolerance is much better Its late, I am sleepy , all I am trying to say is I just want to go to sleep now
Rajiv Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 rajeev' date=' [b']you're not the sole owner? Who else owns this site and for how long has this been here? Mumbai Indians
fineleg Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 You made this sound like a courtroom where people swear by mods, all I was trying to do is bring up the part of mingling and you place the anonymity debate clause, why would anyone wanna be friends with you? I feel we can be friends rajeev :two_thumbs_up: even if I'm lesbian :D Like seinfeld says, Not that there is anything wrong with that. I'm hot lookin', and I like it hot :winky: Also, if someone praises or calls SRT god or parmatma, why does it become a national issue?, so be it - some people are having fun, your counter attack may come as an annoyance and to be frank even after my posts above, I am getting the same feeling but my tolerance is much better Its late, I am sleepy , all I am trying to say is I just want to go to sleep now I have made peace with SRT being called God or parmatma. People can call him that, I wont bother since I have made my peace with different Gods :thumbs_up: Good night, Rajeev. We'll have fun with NZ and IPL later Sleep well, sweet dreams
Shane Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 I feel we can be friends rajeev :two_thumbs_up: even if I'm lesbian :D finey is a female ??? :omg:
The Outsider Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 I have been a member in many forums on web. first time observing an indian forummer getting mercilessly ridiculed in an indian forummer by many members' date='needlessly.i think the owner/moderators must send PM's and sort this out once for all.i believe personal/regional/linguistic related abuses shud not be allowed in any forum.does not give a good image of the forum.[/quote'] I'll tell you why - on any other forum fineleg would have been banned by now for trolling and constantly derailing threads. There are hardly any bans handed out here, rightly so IMO, so you will see a different flavor to things here - a forum should give the impression of how life is not how a few select moderators think how life should be. If there are people with regional bias on a forum, heck so be it......aren't there people with regional bias in life? Just edit/delete whatever is clearly as abuse, just so that discussions are not lost completely and move on....
EnterTheVoid Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 ^^ I can only speak for myself, but I feel fine leg is the target of constant, unrelenting abuse. I can understand members having dis agreements regarding their views on players / issues, but why do people make a point of abusing this fellow with personal insults? I mean why are personal insults brought into any discussion. Calling some one trivial throw away words like idiot / fool is one thing, but I personally feel that fine leg is subject to personal abuse that any person would find offensive. I mean, its not just members but mods are also ganging up on him. If the mods are abusing him with personal abuses left / right / center, whats he supposed to do? reply back in kind? Arguing with a mod is never a good idea Personal abuses, imo, should not be allowed. You may not know what the guy is going through in his own life and inadvertently, you may say something that would deeply hurtful and leave a mental scarring for life. Thats my own opinion and I believe personal abuses, targeted at any forum member, should not be tolerated. I can't stress the difference between personal abuses and silly throw away profanities But than again, who I am to preach anything? I just feel I had to get this off my chest
Holysmoke Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 I'll tell you why - on any other forum fineleg would have been banned by now for trolling and constantly derailing threads. True that.
Guest dada_rocks Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 finey has a point few people here need to tone down on prefixing southy with pejoratives what is next smelly upwala *******ha bihari deshdroihi bengali yada yada yada I expect those phrases on farki website not on indian website
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