punjabi_khota Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 To all those posting home stats and gloating, remember that the actual stats on any ground in the matchup will be VERY close to your AWAY stats, since a max of 2 players will have their stats swapped with home stats.
Gambit Posted February 19, 2009 Author Posted February 19, 2009 shwetabh, in your match scenarios, why is the 1 v 2 match taking place in Australia despite both teams have 2 players from Australia each? Also, why is the 5 v 8 game taking place in England despite 8 having two English players?
SachDan Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 This is the fairest proposal I could come up with : List down the 8 venues alphabetically (let's agree to exclude Zimbabwe): Aus, Eng, Ind, NZ, Pak, SA, SL, WI List down the teams with countries from which they picked 2 players : 1 - SA/Aus 2 - WI/Aus 3 - Eng/Aus 4 - Pak/Aus 5 - Pak/Ind 6 - SA/Aus 7 - Ind/Aus 8 - Eng/Aus Now allot the venues alphabetically to the first country where one of the teams does not have two players from (if both have 2 players from the venue, that's acceptable). So we get : Group A : 1-2 Aus 1-3 Ind 1-4 Eng 2-3 NZ 2-4 SA 3-4 Pak Group B : 5-6 SL 5-7 WI 5-8 Eng 6-7 Aus 6-8 Ind 7-8 NZ Group A 1st vs. Group B 2nd -> First alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Group A 2nd vs. Group [S]A[/S] B 1st ? -> Second alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Final -> Third alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Can't think of a fairer system than this! This is fine :two_thumbs_up:
SachDan Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 shwetabh' date= in your match scenarios, why is the 1 v 2 match taking place in Australia despite both teams have 2 players from Australia each? Also, why is the 5 v 8 game taking place in England despite 8 having two English players? This is the fairest proposal I could come up with : Now allot the venues alphabetically to the first country where one of the teams does not have two players from (if both have 2 players from the venue, that's acceptable). So we get : Group A : 1-2 Aus 1-3 Ind 1-4 Eng 2-3 NZ 2-4 SA 3-4 Pak Group B : 5-6 SL 5-7 WI 5-8 Eng 6-7 Aus 6-8 Ind 7-8 NZ Change of venue required for the match between 5 and 8 as Team8 is with an unfair advantage, having two Poms in their side. Rest I think is ok..
The Outsider Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 List down the 8 venues alphabetically (let's agree to exclude Zimbabwe): Aus, Eng, Ind, NZ, Pak, SA, SL, WI List down the teams with countries from which they picked 2 players : 1 - SA/Aus 2 - WI/Aus 3 - Eng/Aus 4 - Pak/Aus 5 - Pak/Ind 6 - SA/Aus 7 - Ind/Aus 8 - Eng/Aus Now allot the venues alphabetically to the first country where one of the teams does not have two players from (if both have 2 players from the venue, that's acceptable). So we get : Group A : 1-2 Aus 1-3 Ind 1-4 Eng 2-3 NZ 2-4 SA 3-4 Pak Group B : 5-6 SL 5-7 WI 5-8 NZ 6-7 Eng 6-8 Ind 7-8 Aus Group A 1st vs. Group B 2nd -> First alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Group A 2nd vs. Group A 1st -> Second alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Final -> Third alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Gambit, it should be fine if both teams have 2 players from the country they are playing in - 5 vs. 8 was an oversight have corrected it now. Anyhow, the order will change if people want to draw the groups up randomly as being suggested.
bunny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Ok randomly dividing the teams into 2 groups using the following method: i) Take the first letter of the WK's name from each of the teams: Team1 - A (Andy flower), Team2 - J (Jimmy Adams), Team 3 - K (Kumar Sangakkara), Team 4 - A (Adam Gilchrist), Team5 - M (Mark Boucher), Team 6 - B(Brendon Mccullum), Team 7 - M (Mahendra Dhoni), Team 8 - A (Alec Stewart) ii) Order the teams according to the letters. Team1 - A, Team4 - A, Team8 - A, Team6 - B Team2- J, Team3 - K, Team5-M, Team7-M and you have the 2 groups: 1, 4, 6, 8 and 2,3, 5, 7 Hope the groups are fine...Now if teams 1 and 5 can post their scores we can move ahead with the method that Shwetabh suggested.
SachDan Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Ok randomly dividing the teams into 2 groups using the following method: i) Take the first letter of the WK's name from each of the teams: Team1 - A (Andy flower), Team2 - J (Jimmy Adams), Team 3 - K (Kumar Sangakkara), Team 4 - A (Adam Gilchrist), Team5 - M (Mark Boucher), Team 6 - B(Brendon Mccullum), Team 7 - M (Mahendra Dhoni), Team 8 - A (Alec Stewart) ii) Order the teams according to the letters. Team1 - A, Team4 - A, Team8 - A, Team6 - B Team2- J, Team3 - K, Team5-M, Team7-M and you have the 2 groups: 1, 4, 6, 8 and 2,3, 5, 7 Well thought out bunny :two_thumbs_up:
nospam Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 TEAM 5: ======= Sachin Tendulkar(c) Mark Boucher(w) Dean Jones Inzamam-Ul-Haq Graham Thorpe Sanath Jayasuriya Chris Gayle Anil Kumble Daniel Vettori Waqar Younis Henry Olonga BATTING: Player | Country | HOME | AWAY | OVERALL ================================================= Sachin Tendulkar(c) | IND | 54.98 | 53.70 | 54.27 Mark Boucher(w) | RSA | 35.23 | 26.44 | 30.43 Dean Jones | AUS | 48.66 | 44.08 | 46.55 Inzamam-Ul-Haq | PAK | 53.75 | 46.98 | 49.60 * Graham Thorpe | ENG | 45.17 | 44.16 | 44.66 Sanath Jayasuriya | SRL | 43.76 | 35.73 | 40.07 Chris Gayle | WI | 38.63 | 41.48 | 40.10 ** Anil Kumble | IND | 21.61 | 14.75 | 17.77 Daniel Vettori | NZ | 31.24 | 24.08 | 27.27 Waqar Younis | PAK | 10.17 | 10.22 | 10.20 * Henry Olonga | ZIM | 4.78 | 5.85 | 5.41 ================================================== HOME: 377.81 AWAY: 337.81 OVERALL: 356.13 BOWLING: Player | Country | HOME | AWAY | OVERALL ================================================= Anil Kumble | IND | 24.88 | 35.85 | 29.65 Daniel Vettori | NZ | 34.75 | 31.91 | 33.09 Waqar Younis | PAK | 20.29 | 26.07 | 23.56 * Sanath Jayasuriya | SRL | 31.83 | 39.53 | 34.34 Henry Olonga | ZIM | 31.08 | 47.41 | 38.52 *** ================================================== HOME: 121.07 AWAY: 147.58 OVERALL: 132.20 RATIOS: ============ HOME: 3.12 AWAY: 2.28 OVERALL: 2.69 * - Away = Away + Neutral ** - Current test match not included *** - 5th Bowler EPIC PWNED!!!
Shane Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 TEAM 5: ======= Sachin Tendulkar(c) Mark Boucher(w) Dean Jones Inzamam-Ul-Haq Graham Thorpe Sanath Jayasuriya Chris Gayle Anil Kumble Daniel Vettori Waqar Younis Henry Olonga BATTING: Player | Country | HOME | AWAY | OVERALL ================================================= Sachin Tendulkar(c) | IND | 54.98 | 53.70 | 54.27 Mark Boucher(w) | RSA | 35.23 | 26.44 | 30.43 Dean Jones | AUS | 48.66 | 44.08 | 46.55 Inzamam-Ul-Haq | PAK | 53.75 | 46.98 | 49.60 * Graham Thorpe | ENG | 45.17 | 44.16 | 44.66 Sanath Jayasuriya | SRL | 43.76 | 35.73 | 40.07 Chris Gayle | WI | 38.63 | 41.48 | 40.10 ** Anil Kumble | IND | 21.61 | 14.75 | 17.77 Daniel Vettori | NZ | 31.24 | 24.08 | 27.27 Waqar Younis | PAK | 10.17 | 10.22 | 10.20 * Henry Olonga | ZIM | 4.78 | 5.85 | 5.41 ================================================== HOME: 377.81 AWAY: 337.81 OVERALL: 356.13 BOWLING: Player | Country | HOME | AWAY | OVERALL ================================================= Anil Kumble | IND | 24.88 | 35.85 | 29.65 Daniel Vettori | NZ | 34.75 | 31.91 | 33.09 Waqar Younis | PAK | 20.29 | 26.07 | 23.56 * Sanath Jayasuriya | SRL | 31.83 | 39.53 | 34.34 Henry Olonga | ZIM | 31.08 | 47.41 | 38.52 *** ================================================== HOME: 121.07 AWAY: 147.58 OVERALL: 132.20 RATIOS: ============ HOME: 3.12 AWAY: 2.28 OVERALL: 2.69 * - Away = Away + Neutral ** - Current test match not included *** - 5th Bowler EPIC PWNED!!! 2.28 away wow !!! I thought mine was the lowest !!!
hassan_113 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 What the hell, thought our team was really strong on paper along with team 7 :(
bunny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 TEAM 5: ======= Sachin Tendulkar(c) Mark Boucher(w) Dean Jones Inzamam-Ul-Haq Graham Thorpe Sanath Jayasuriya Chris Gayle Anil Kumble Daniel Vettori Waqar Younis Henry Olonga BATTING: Player | Country | HOME | AWAY | OVERALL ================================================= Sachin Tendulkar(c) | IND | 54.98 | 53.70 | 54.27 Mark Boucher(w) | RSA | 35.23 | 26.44 | 30.43 Dean Jones | AUS | 48.66 | 44.08 | 46.55 Inzamam-Ul-Haq | PAK | 53.75 | 46.98 | 49.60 * Graham Thorpe | ENG | 45.17 | 44.16 | 44.66 Sanath Jayasuriya | SRL | 43.76 | 35.73 | 40.07 Chris Gayle | WI | 38.63 | 41.48 | 40.10 ** Anil Kumble | IND | 21.61 | 14.75 | 17.77 Daniel Vettori | NZ | 31.24 | 24.08 | 27.27 Waqar Younis | PAK | 10.17 | 10.22 | 10.20 * Henry Olonga | ZIM | 4.78 | 5.85 | 5.41 ================================================== HOME: 377.81 AWAY: 337.81 OVERALL: 356.13 BOWLING: Player | Country | HOME | AWAY | OVERALL ================================================= Anil Kumble | IND | 24.88 | 35.85 | 29.65 Daniel Vettori | NZ | 34.75 | 31.91 | 33.09 Waqar Younis | PAK | 20.29 | 26.07 | 23.56 * Sanath Jayasuriya | SRL | 31.83 | 39.53 | 34.34 Henry Olonga | ZIM | 31.08 | 47.41 | 38.52 *** ================================================== HOME: 121.07 AWAY: 147.58 OVERALL: 132.20 RATIOS: ============ HOME: 3.12 AWAY: 2.28 OVERALL: 2.69 * - Away = Away + Neutral ** - Current test match not included *** - 5th Bowler EPIC PWNED!!! Some mistakes in your batting calculations I think...sum should be 340+ and 380+
The Outsider Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 1-4 Aus 1-6 Eng 1-8 Ind 4-6 NZ 4-8 SA 6-8 Pak 2-3 SL 2-5 Eng 2-7 Aus 3-5 WI 3-7 NZ 5-7 Ind Group A 1st vs. Group B 2nd -> First alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Group A 2nd vs. Group A 1st -> Second alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players Final -> Third alphabetical venue after NZ where one of the teams does not have 2 players I think the above line up is good based on the new groups - maybe someone can verify?
Gambit Posted February 19, 2009 Author Posted February 19, 2009 Before we get into the matches, according to you guys, which team appears to be the favourite?
Shane Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Before we get into the matches' date=' according to you guys, which team appears to be the favourite?[/quote'] PK,Gambo and Dan !!! PK to win !!! Do we have odds on this :--D
bunny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Some teams have very biased home stats (and consequently poor away stats) which have made them almost meaningless in this competition. We can make a couple of adjustments for these... a) Divide the cricket nations into groups of 3 each so that a match played in any country would essentially mean that players from 3 countries would count as home players...so a better chance of staying in the competition. b) Instead of taking these ratios, we actually sample a score for each batsman based on his home/away and opposition bowling average and using a standard distribution such as geometric or lognormal. The downside to this is that it's laborious but the interesting thing is that we will get random scorecards and every team will have a chance and we can get some really funny looking scorecards. Having said that, I am fine the way things stand as of now and we can move ahead with Shwetabh's proposal which is quite fair given the original rules.
The Outsider Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 P_K's and Gambit's team appear favorites. BTW,here is prize money : 1st - $5 million 2nd - $2 million 3rd/4th - $1 million
bunny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 P_K's and Gambit's team appear favorites. BTW,here is prize money : 1st - $5 million 2nd - $2 million 3rd/4th - $1 million How about everyone else gets 100K$?
bunny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I can't see stats for team1, btw...have they been posted?
Shane Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 P_K's and Gambit's team appear favorites. BTW,here is prize money : 1st - $5 million 2nd - $2 million 3rd/4th - $1 million Wat abt the rest shwetabh ??? :((
zubinpepsi Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 P_K's and Gambit's team appear favorites. BTW,here is prize money : 1st - $5 million 2nd - $2 million 3rd/4th - $1 million can i sneak into the 3rd?? possible??
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