SachDan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Dubai: South Africa off-spinner Johan Botha has been reported for a suspected illegal bowling action during the fourth one-dayer between Australia and South Africa in Port Elizabeth. Botha was reported by the two on-field umpires, Brian Jerling and Asoka de Silva, along with third umpire Rudi Koertzen. Match referee Ranjan Madugalle has informed both the International Cricket Council and South Africa team management of the report, as per the ICC regulations governing the reporting process. The umpires' report cited concern over two types of delivery employed by Botha, his quicker ball and his 'doosra', the ICC said in a statement on Tuesday. The report on Botha, second such instance for him - the first being in 2006, will be handled under the ICC regulations for the review of bowlers reported with suspected illegal bowling actions. The player will now undergo independent analysis of his action by a member of the ICC's panel of human movement specialists. This will take place as soon as possible, and within a maximum period of 21 days from receipt by Cricket South Africa (CSA) of formal notice of the report by the ICC. Botha will be allowed to play international cricket until the biomechanical report has been completed, at the discretion of CSA. This is the second time Botha has been reported for a suspected illegal bowling action, the previous instance being in January 2006 after the third Test against Australia in Sydney and he was suspended from bowling the following month when testing confirmed the officials' suspicions. Botha then underwent remedial action, was re-tested, his action at that time was found to be legal and he was able to resume playing international cricket. Only if a player is banned from bowling twice within a period of two years from the date of the commencement of the first period of suspension is that ban for a minimum of one year. source Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 he does chuck on some balls he bowls. Link to comment
riya Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Thats the point once ''cleared doesn't mean that cleared forever''.All bowlers should be under the radar .I hate all the chuckers . Link to comment
gaurav92 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 he chucks on those 100+ quicker flatter ones Link to comment
veer Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 the guy goes crazy when he appeals.. on that basis alone, he should be banned.. :--D Link to comment
DomainK Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Thats the point once ''cleared doesn't mean that cleared forever''.All bowlers should be under the radar .I hate all the chuckers . The problem comes with bowlers who intentionally chuck. So when they are called for a test, they keep it right. But in a match they would bend their arm now and then to get that bit extra into the delivery. Link to comment
riya Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 DomainK,that is what i amtrying to say .Check in match conditions.The only solution. Link to comment
Shane Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The lads in the match thread called this, for me i guess its firmly on the fence Link to comment
Mamu Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Domaink -- that is exactly why I have always called the chucking saga as the biggest joke of the century. One SHOULD always see if the bowler has chucked a particular ball in the match. I simply fail to understand what does ICC establish by a sending a guy to a remote corner of Australia strap his nose, mouth, ass and every single orifice that it can find with wires and make him go through a lab routine? What does that establish -- Absolutely f**king nothing. BTW I saw Bothas action, his action is defenitely cleaner than Muralis. The chucking Joke Saga continues to make its rounds. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I knew it, he definitely is a chucker, every time I see him bowl he looks a bigger chucker Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 BCCI/ACC power has made it a crime to report Murali. Otherwise, if Murali was from WI or SA, he would have been cited for chucking and banned from cricket for life. That's a f ucking joke. Link to comment
Mamu Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 ^^ And Shoaib Akhtar and Harbhajan Singh in his early days. Even Brett Lee in his early days. Murali is a blatant chucker. Period. Link to comment
Don Sharma Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The on field umpires wud know better if a bowler chucks or not. If he does chuck then he sud be stopped immediately from bowling in a particular match and not wait for a formal notice to be sent, blah blah. IMO doosra is illegal atleast by the rules of the game prior to 15% crap. Link to comment
DomainK Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The on field umpires wud know better if a bowler chucks or not. If he does chuck then he sud be stopped immediately from bowling in a particular match and not wait for a formal notice to be sent, blah blah. IMO doosra is illegal atleast by the rules of the game prior to 15% crap. How? Link to comment
Don Sharma Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 How? Just looking at a bowler dont u know if he chucks or not? Link to comment
fineleg Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 ^^ And Shoaib Akhtar and Harbhajan Singh in his early days. Even Brett Lee in his early days. Murali is a blatant chucker. Period. And for that reason esp. Shane Warne will be the best spinner. Link to comment
DomainK Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Just looking at a bowler dont u know if he chucks or not? Not that....I meant the doosra. Why should it be illegal? Link to comment
Don Sharma Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Not that....I meant the doosra. Why should it be illegal? Every bowler who bowls the doosra extends his arm at the point of delivery and in old rules it doesn matter if the limit of flexation is 15% or not, as long as the bolwer starightens his arm he is deemed illegal. IMO it is very much impossible to bowl a doosra without chucking it. Link to comment
DomainK Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Every bowler who bowls the doosra extends his arm at the point of delivery and in old rules it doesn matter if the limit of flexation is 15% or not' date=' as long as the bolwer starightens his arm he is deemed illegal. IMO it is very much impossible to bowl a doosra without chucking it.[/quote'] Well, I dont know much about the off spinner's doosra. So you may be right. The leg spinner's wrong one is not much complicated though. Link to comment
Don Sharma Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Well' date=' I dont know much about the off spinner's doosra. So you may be right. The leg spinner's wrong one is not much complicated though.[/quote'] The best solution to this is, ban the doosra completely.I think Saqlain was the closest to bowling a doosra legally but then he too extended his arm. Almost all the bowlers who have/had tried to bowl a doosra have been reported, tht speaks for itself. Link to comment
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