rkt.india Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I am asking a question about these two upcoming bowlers. Both took highest wickets in their debuty ranji season respectively, booth are talented, but the question is who is bound to get more success than other one. We have seen both of them bowling in IPL and other games. Let us make an assessmetn of these two guys. Link to comment
amits Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 pradeeep sangwan kamran khan bhuvneshwar kumar Link to comment
Mamu Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I watched Tyagi yesterday -- I will have to say he is quite impressive. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Tyagi by a distance. He has superb bowling action to go with good height. Dhawal is a trundler. Tyagi clocked close to 140 k. Link to comment
Kohum Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I haven't seen h4teler brah - so I can only vouch for his sledging. I'll say Abhishek Rawat is way better. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 then why selectors picked Balaji and Kulkarni ahead of him in New Zealand squad, it means they dont follow domestic cricket, if they had seen him bowling against Australia A wih tbatsmen like katich, Marcus north, Adam Voges, Luke rhonchi, Phiilip Hughes. they must have picked him. Link to comment
Mr. Wicket Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 then why selectors picked Balaji and Kulkarni ahead of him in New Zealand squad' date=' it means they dont follow domestic cricket, if they had seen him bowling against Australia A wih tbatsmen like katich, Marcus north, Adam Voges, Luke rhonchi, Phiilip Hughes. they must have picked him.[/quote'] No, YOU don't follow domestic cricket. Dig up Tyagi's stats from last season, then explain the giant gap to me. kthxbai. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Yes. Gong by stats Balaji had superb stats last season and also Dhawal. But on display Tyagi was the best because he is quicker than the rest. Balaji has lost lot of pace and also he is not having the control he used to have with his outswing. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 No, YOU don't follow domestic cricket. Dig up Tyagi's stats from last season, then explain the giant gap to me. kthxbai. kulkarni didnt impress much against Aus A where Tyagi did, if selectors select team on domestic performance then what was the performance of Gony in domestic, if it was the case then many trundlers would have been playing in Indian team, like VS Malik, Ashok Thakur, gagandeep singh, Rnadeb Bose, etc, etc. They need to see the potential. Kulkarni at 125 ks cant be succeed at International level, whether he swings or not, he will be thrashed. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Tyagi obviously didnt play many games in 2nd season, in which he played he didnt pick many wickets, but they needed to show some patience on him, it was disappointing to see him sit out from those matches he should have played, who knows he may have got his form back if would have played. Link to comment
flamy Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 The selectors should add a subjective element to the selections. That is their job. How many times has fineleg been chided for concentrating on stats? Link to comment
Don Sharma Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 The selectors should add a subjective element to the selections. That is their job. How many times has fineleg been chided for concentrating on stats? Reminds me of WI team selection. In the words of Donald Peters "If you decide that you are an opening batsman, we will expect you to occupy the crease for at least 75% of the time you go to bat and your batting average will be between 40-60 over at least ten first-class matches. "If you are a top order batsman we will expect you to have a batting average that is consistent with international players at that level/position." Then Tony Cozier came up with a classic The West Indies selectors, he indicated, would be guided by a first-class average that "should be similar" to that of Mike Hussey, Ricky Ponting, Kumar Sangakkara, Kevin Pietersen, Virender Sehwag and Shivnarine Chanderpaul. The problem is that Chanderpaul and Chris Gayle are the only ones among active West Indian batsmen who meet such qualifications. Clyde Butts and his fellow selectors will find impossible to scrape together an eleven, unless, of course, they simply ignore such nonsense. A few days after Peters made known the WICB's plan, the Barbados Cricket Association (BCA) issued a lengthy, detailed document entitled 'Selection Policy Guidelines', covering such aspects as attitude, fitness and commitment. Under the heading 'Performance Levels', this is what it states: "All players seeking to represent Barbados at the regional first-class level shall maintain a First Division (club) average of 40 or higher as a batsman or a bowling average less than 15 with at least 35 wickets as a bowler. "All players seeking to represent Barbados at the regional one-day level shall maintain a batting average of between 35 and 40 or higher as a batsman or a bowling average under 20 as a bowler." It goes further. Those in the Barbados team who don't maintain the required averages at club level "shall appear before the director of coaching with their club coach to give reasons for their non-performance". If, "after further monitoring", the standard still isn't met then the player won't even get into trials. The text, the BCA surprisingly revealed, was prepared "in consultation with the selectors" whose initiative it would obviously compromise. All they need do in future is to pick batsmen and bowlers who meet the given statistical specifications and argue over the wicket-keeper, the only category for which none are set. :cantstop: Link to comment
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