When will we have an express fast bowler?

[express bowling]

lack of height of our bowlers is also an issue. BK' date=' Shami, and Mohit all 3 are barely 5 feet 9 tall. Mohit's pace was good if he was 6 feet 3. Look at Morkel (6'6"), McLaren (6'4"), Parnell (6'2"), Tsosobe (6'4") all pretty tall bowlers. Even Steyn who we call short is between 5 feet 11 to 6.[/quote'] Absolutely. Our current pacers will be 5'10" max.

[King Tendulkar]

who are the 5 fastest bowlers in India? I am not sure 1 Yadav 2 Aaorn 3 Shami 4 ? 5 ?

[rkt.india]

who are the 5 fastest bowlers in India? I am not sure 1 Yadav 2 Aaorn 3 Shami 4 Shukla 5 Suyal

[express bowling]

lack of height of our bowlers is also an issue. BK' date=' Shami, and Mohit all 3 are barely 5 feet 9 tall. Mohit's pace was good if he was 6 feet 3. Look at Morkel (6'6"), McLaren (6'4"), Parnell (6'2"), Tsosobe (6'4") all pretty tall bowlers. Even Steyn who we call short is between 5 feet 11 to 6.[/quote'] I was watching a match in the mid 90s. Srinath and Prasad were bowling. There was so much bounce. Srinath was obviously very fast. But , even the medium pace of Prasad was making the batsmen jump sometimes because of extra height.

[vipin]

Well, I have an idea. Lets incorporate a sponsored scholarship or something for the top 3 fast bowlers every year. I am sure the BCCI would feel threatened, and launch a big scholarship of their own. And that will inspire some backwater kids to start taking bowling seriously. :winky:

[bulbul]

BCCI get threatened by your scholarship program? :hysterical:

[vvvslaxman]

Hope Srini accepts the challenge of facing Mitch Johnson in the nets

[bulbul]

Seeni will make Mitch Left arm spinner and accept challenge.

[vipin]

BCCI get threatened by your scholarship program? :hysterical:

If ICL could do it, why not us. :P

[Vijy]

Prasad has a better overseas record that Sri (who could clock over 90 mph) and I think this proves that bowlers of diff skills can prosper in diff conditions. Look at PK's record and you'll find that he did much better than most other Indian pacers abroad. Hence, we should look for bowlers who can take wickets - as simple as that. I'd prefer an attack that has out-and-out pacers, conventional and reverse swingers, seamers, those who hit the deck hard, line-and-length merchants who can extract extra bounce, etc.

[King Tendulkar]

Holding on comm now Trunder fans aint gonna like this! " Even when not perfect with line and length, pace can still get you wiclets, pace can imitadate, pace causes problems in peoples minds, pace gets you to play at ball balls you would not normally play at" PACE ps Holding is not a paki

[nballa]

fast twitch muscle fibers - in a word genetics.

[peterparker]

It is obviously about taking wickets. To take wickets consistently, in a variety of different conditions, either some pace or steep bounce, is almost a necessity for a pacer. Medium pacers take wickets only in certain conditions . All pacers, who have taken 200 wickets or more in tests, who have an average of less than 27 or a strike rate of less than 53, have been either FAST or really tall and bouncy fast medium bowlers. No medium pacers are there in all probability.

No, just because, indian bowlers are not good, it does not mean that other bowlers are like this. Even siddle is not express, but he picks wicket, and creates pressure. English bowlers are swing bowlers, and they rely on this skills, even flintoff was pacy, but had that ability to swing. Mere pace is not sufficient, even a speed of 135 km/h is lethal, provided, it is bowler in the right channels

[cricraja]

No, just because, indian bowlers are not good, it does not mean that other bowlers are like this. Even siddle is not express, but he picks wicket, and creates pressure. English bowlers are swing bowlers, and they rely on this skills, even flintoff was pacy, but had that ability to swing. Mere pace is not sufficient, even a speed of 135 km/h is lethal, provided, it is bowler in the right channels

Dennis Lilllee got biulk of his wickets after drastically cutting down on pace, Richard Hadlee got bulk of his wickets at 132-133kmph, McGrath was for most part Vinay speed. What does all these bowlers have in common? Canny ability to be dead accurate and produce that wicket taking ball, always probing, plus most of these bowlers operated for most part in helpful conditions, though all three could have picked up wickets anywhere they bowl.

[Cricket_Hacker]

Dennis Lilllee got biulk of his wickets after drastically cutting down on pace, Richard Hadlee got bulk of his wickets at 132-133kmph, McGrath was for most part Vinay speed. What does all these bowlers have in common? Canny ability to be dead accurate and produce that wicket taking ball, always probing, plus most of these bowlers operated for most part in helpful conditions, though all three could have picked up wickets anywhere they bowl.

Did u just mention Lillee,McGrath,Hadlee and VINAY in the same sentence :sick:

[express bowling]

No, just because, indian bowlers are not good, it does not mean that other bowlers are like this. Even siddle is not express, but he picks wicket, and creates pressure. English bowlers are swing bowlers, and they rely on this skills, even flintoff was pacy, but had that ability to swing. Mere pace is not sufficient, even a speed of 135 km/h is lethal, provided, it is bowler in the right channels

Why do some of you assume that we are talking about a bowler with just pace and nothing else ? Having just one quality and nothing else is never enough. A bowler with pace and/ or bounce needs wicket taking ability and accuracy and / or movement. Express pace is not a necessity but sufficient pace and / or bounce, which can hurry the batsmen, is required , along with other skills , to be a wicket taker in international cricket. A seamer without any ability to hurry the batsmen, whether by pace or by bounce, would find it very difficult to take wickets regularly in internationals.

[King Tendulkar]

Why does everyone assume that pace means wayward Trundler culture thinking No one wants pace all over the shop. But our contenders are not like that, despite the propaganda against them

[express bowling]

Why does everyone assume that pace means wayward Trundler culture thinking No one wants pace all over the shop. But our contenders are not like that, despite the propaganda against them

Umesh has a strike rate of 46 after playing 9 tests. Yet, he is the one being criticized the most. So many posters talk about wicket taking ability being their biggest focus. But they don't like our best wicket taker. Strange, isn't it !

[King Tendulkar]

Also back these fast bowlers. Their accuracy and areas will improve. We back and support the wrong types

[cricraja]

Also back these fast bowlers. Their accuracy and areas will improve. We back and support the wrong types

What a moronic idea. Bring them into the Indian team and back them, and hope that their accuracy will improve. Do you even watch and understand cricket?