Sachinism Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 This was supposed to be a private message to Tim Nielsen which leaked onto The Daily Telegraph Link to comment
Sachinism Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 Langer 'shattered' by leaked dossier Justin Langer has told Cricinfo that he bitterly regrets the fact that a dossier he compiled on the England team has been leaked to the press. The document, originally emailed to Australia's coach Tim Nielsen and distributed among the team, was published in the Sunday Telegraph and contained a number of critical insights into England's players and the county system. "I'm shattered and really upset," said Langer. "That was an email meant only for Tim Nielsen. It was private correspondence and has now found its way into the public domain. It's a joke. Everyone who knows me knows it's not my go to bag anyone. But behind closed doors everyone is going to have an opinion and this was a message that was meant for behind closed doors. It's disappointing." In the document, which was printed in full in the Sunday Telegraph, Langer opined that James Anderson was "a bit of a pussy" when placed under pressure, and described the captaincy of Andrew Strauss as "conservative". He also claimed England's players "rarely believe in themselves,'' variously describing them as "flat", "shallow" and "lazy". Michael Vaughan, also writing in the Sunday Telegraph, concurred with many of Langer's conclusions. "If I had have known that this would end up in the public domain I would have put things differently," said Langer. "I definitely wouldn't have used a word like pussy, but it was only to describe James Anderson's body language. If you read it all the way through, you would see that a lot of what I said about guys like Anderson, Strauss and Bopara was complimentary. They're excellent players, and I was just trying to offer up a few ideas as to how Australia might get under their skins." Although Langer did state that Anderson was "hugely improved" as a cricketer, and that Strauss was "a very solid character and good bloke", he also said that he expected a negative reaction from some quarters after the publication of his comments, particularly seeing as he currently lives in England while acting as Somerset's captain. "I guess it will [make life harder in England]," he said. "I just spoke to Tim and he was disappointed that it came out like this. But I'm the one who has got to live here. What backlash there is, I guess time will tell." Both Strauss and Ricky Ponting downplayed the significance of the dossier. "We're not in the habit of reading the press as a general rule, so I don't think we're going to change that right now," Strauss said. "As a team you're always looking for outside people to give you a view on the players you're playing against. The Aussies have obviously got him to do that. It's not of great interest to do that. When you cross that white line anything that's written on paper is pretty irrelevant. "If you look at the cricket we've played over the last nine months or so I would [dispute Langer's dossier] and it's certainly not something we want to see from an England team. If that's something that's happened in the past it's something we intend to iron out. I think there's a lot of strength or character in the side and we're going to need it next week. It's as simple as that." Ponting confirmed his squad had read Langer's email, but denied it had been a central element to their plan-making ahead of the Ashes series. "I've played as much against these guys as Justin has so I pretty much knew a lot of the personalities and the way a lot of the guys play," Ponting said. "I'll admit I got given a copy of it and I had a brief read through it all, but I knew most of it anyway. It was probably more for the younger guys in the group to get a bit of a feel for some of their players. I'm sure they all read every single word of the document, but that was it. We haven't sat down in meetings after that and talked about it." http://www.cricinfo.com/engvaus2009/content/current/story/418732.html Link to comment
iHammad Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Wow. I don't know what to say! I wonder how it leaked out??? Link to comment
Sachinism Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 He said, "Anderson is bit of a pussy" LMFAO :hysterical: Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 whats with aussies and leaking emails to press Link to comment
DomainK Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 That is indeed a very interesting document. I wonder if the leak was intentional. Even for internal circulation, on official document usually does not use words like those. If that was a private e-mail intended only for Tim, he would have edited a few words before handing out the circulars. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 ^^ Did you already know Anderson is a pu$$y? Link to comment
Desi Cartman Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Good work by Oz team management, by leaking this they have put Eng under more pressure :hehe: Link to comment
Fontaine Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 A pretty clever move by the Aussies. Release the notes to the press that way all the attention is focused on the English players. Now, not only will they have to beat the Aussies, but also the perceptions they have in the media of them, and that will surely be distracting. Still, a pretty low class move by the Aussies, but what do you expect from a team that gives abusive drunks chance after chance and claim dubious catches. Link to comment
Chandan Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 ^^ Did you already know Anderson is a pu$? I don't know what exactly that term means for a cricketer. But if it means, being a bit timid, or losing its radar and retreating into its shell as soon as someone attacks, then yes. I think all of knew that about Anderson! Link to comment
EnterTheVoid Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I don't see why Langer feels a need to apologize to anyone. As the dossier was intended purely for private correspondence, one can perfectly understand the forthright approach he's adopted. The one who should hang his head in shame is the grubby little weasel who leaked the dossier to the media. The depths Mr Shameless Unlimited would stoop to, for a few silver coins. Link to comment
DomainK Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I don't see why Langer feels a need to apologize to anyone. As the dossier was intended purely for private correspondence, one can perfectly understand the forthright approach he's adopted. The one who should hang his head in shame is the grubby little weasel who leaked the dossier to the media. The depths Mr Shameless Unlimited would stoop to, for a few silver coins. I think it should be Tim who should apologize since he decided to circulate it without editing the language. But still, I think it was planned to be leaked right from the beginning. Link to comment
sangrock Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Well compiled dossier! I really like the way Langer has observed all the personalities and is correct about almost everyone - esp. point 2! Link to comment
Ram Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hmmm, this is a distraction Australia could have done without before the final test. Link to comment
sangrock Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I don't think it matters to Australia as the spot light is on Langer who is not playing. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 I think it would affect England more than Australia. Langer has been spying on the England lads, naughty boy Link to comment
braguvaran Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 He said Ravi Bopara is good. But we all saw he aint good enough.... Though Shane warne got it perfect before the series by sayin that he is useless Link to comment
Sachinism Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 ^^ Langer has seen Bopara mainly on the county circuit and Bopara is class at that level, so I guess he's based his views on that Link to comment
iHammad Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 He is used to open for AUstralia right? Link to comment
goose Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 the whole episode is a deliberate leak to unsettle the Poms. Link to comment
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