sudheer kumar Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 who (pacers) exactly have done great in Indian tracks? When compared to Nehra..........Zaheer,Praveen bowled exceptionally well. Irfan,Rp singh.......both bowl equal to nehra. Ishant,Munaf can bowler better than nehra.
someone Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 When compared to Nehra..........Zaheer,Praveen bowled exceptionally well. Irfan,Rp singh.......both bowl equal to nehra. Ishant,Munaf can bowler better than nehra. So then you should support Nehra case not criticize. As according to you, he is on par with IP, RPS and currently he is better than them as he is performing well for India. IS, Munaf, Sree they probably will the ones fighting for the 4th bowling spot in our team.
vvvslaxman Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 ALmost all bowlers are of same class. But when he gets going Nehra can be unplayable and he can run through a side something you can't say about Munna bhai, Ishant.
Lord Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 these r figures of Indian bowlers at home in last 2 yrs http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;home_or_away=1;orderby=wickets;spanmin1=01+Jan+2009;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=bowling only people better than him r those who have 5-6 matches only
Lord Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 some awful figures by our seamers I think its more due to the pitches most bowlers have struggled this is the figures of ALL pacers in last two yrs in India.some r better but there r guys like Steyn,Kulsakera who r much worse http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=2;filter=advanced;host=6;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=1;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=01+Jan+2009;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling
sudheer kumar Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 So then you should support Nehra case not criticize. As according to you, he is on par with IP, RPS and currently he is better than them as he is performing well for India. IS, Munaf, Sree they probably will the ones fighting for the 4th bowling spot in our team. In Indian conditions no need of Nehra as third bowling option. Only two pacers are enough in final XI. They might be Zaheer Khan and Praveen kumar. Then why team need Nehra? Another player who can do equally or better than Nehra and having some batting skill will be right choice.
Lord Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 In Indian conditions no need of Nehra as third bowling option. Only two pacers are enough in final XI. They might be Zaheer Khan and Praveen kumar. Then why team need Nehra? Another player who can do equally or better than Nehra and having some batting skill will be right choice. Praveen has an avg n S/R of 55 on Indian pitches in last 2 yrs
sudheer kumar Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Praveen has an avg n S/R of 55 on Indian pitches in last 2 yrs Team won't lose him. He bowls well with new ball. Batsmen smashed him in slog overs. I think that effected on his avg
someone Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Team won't lose him. He bowls well with new ball. Batsmen smashed him in slog overs. I think that effected on his avg Yep exactly. Compare him with Nehra, who bowls when the opponents are 9 down and still produces that kind of averages. Right?? Pretty odd that you are defending PK with the logic when that same logic can be used for AN as well. And one more fact, IP is not a better bowler than AN, no matter how much you try to persuade.
sudheer kumar Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Yep exactly. Compare him with Nehra, who bowls when the opponents are 9 down and still produces that kind of averages. Right?? Pretty odd that you are defending PK with the logic when that same logic can be used for AN as well. And one more fact, IP is not a better bowler than AN, no matter how much you try to persuade. If selectors gives a chance to IP.........then we can compare AN and IP.
someone Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 If selectors gives a chance to IP.........then we can compare AN and IP. Please first answer the first part....
sudheer kumar Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Please first answer the first part.... Dhoni changed already. PK don't bowl in slog overs......... He is completing his 8overs in his first spell Another two will in mid 30-40 overs. Nehra never picked up wicket of Mills...or any other lower order batsmen in Ind vs NZ match. Munaf picked up lower order batsmen. If no support from pitch...........Nehra is below average bowler.
someone Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Dhoni changed already. PK don't bowl in slog overs......... He is completing his 8overs in his first spell Another two will in mid 30-40 overs. Nehra never picked up wicket of Mills...or any other lower order batsmen in Ind vs NZ match. Munaf picked up lower order batsmen. If no support from pitch...........Nehra is below average bowler. So then what is the problem with you?Do you even know what are you talking about? And you still have not answered the question!!! First you say PK is a opening bowler and bowls in the death bowler, but according to you, this is reason he has high average but it does not matter for you. Now you say things differently for AN, he has high averages and so that makes him very bad. AN bowls at the opening and the death and does that very well. You are using a very childish and stupid rebuttal. You think trying to switch the topics and some long crap will help you win?? The amount of times you contradict yourself is very shocking.
sudheer kumar Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 So then what is the problem with you?Do you even know what are you talking about? And you still have not answered the question!!! First you say PK is a opening bowler and bowls in the death bowler, but according to you, this is reason he has high average but it does not matter for you. Now you say things differently for AN, he has high averages and so that makes him very bad. AN bowls at the opening and the death and does that very well. You are using a very childish and stupid rebuttal. You think trying to switch the topics and some long crap will help you win?? The amount of times you contradict yourself is very shocking. I am saying all the facts............. And Nehra taking wickets only through luck........... He is a poor fielder too...........dropping so many catches in other pacers bowling Many good catches are converted as Nehra's wickets.......... PK has avg of 55..........in last two years But he played only 10 ODIs............If he played 25-30 ODIs his stats will different.
someone Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 I am saying all the facts............. And Nehra taking wickets only through luck........... He is a poor fielder too...........dropping so many catches in other pacers bowling Many good catches are converted as Nehra's wickets.......... PK has avg of 55..........in last two years But he played only 10 ODIs............If he played 25-30 ODIs his stats will different. You still have not answered the question and so have yet to defend yourself. Your first point and third point about AN is very hilarious if anything:hysterical:. I have not seen Nehra dropping so many catches as you mentioned. He of course is not a brilliant fielding but he at least he can still do it decently. And again you have done a contradiction as the same line could be used for AN. Maybe time for you to stop visiting this thread as you are very clueless atm.
sudheer kumar Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 You still have not answered the question and so have yet to defend yourself. Your first point and third point about AN is very hilarious if anything:hysterical:. I have not seen Nehra dropping so many catches as you mentioned. He of course is not a brilliant fielding but he at least he can still do it decently. And again you have done a contradiction as the same line could be used for AN. Maybe time for you to stop visiting this thread as you are very clueless atm. Always saying not answering question........... What is your question? Even today's match........batsmen smashing his balls. Not attacking praveen also
Sooda Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 One of the commies is saying he should have been given the new ball today, Munaf is bowling well though
Lord Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 One of the commies is saying he should have been given the new ball today' date=' Munaf is bowling well though[/quote'] ofcourse that was stupidity by MSD.Nehra was bowling well is a swing bowler.new ball was a must
CG Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Nehra bowling career most probably will be ended after this loss.
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