EnterTheVoid Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Interesting find. What about the dates ?
The Outsider Posted December 29, 2009 Author Posted December 29, 2009 Interesting find. What about the dates ? Updated - x axis got chopped off earlier.
EnterTheVoid Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 The y axis is slightly misleading Shwetabh. I would like to see a breakdown of the casualties in terms of the number of civilan casualties, the number killed by the pakistani army both with and without American assistance and the number killed by the insurgents in retaliation. I have no doubt in my mind that if the Pakistani army wasn't fighting the Taliban, they would be use d as a proxy against India. Remember them approaching the same groups they are fighting today after 26 / 11 ?
punjabi_khota Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Did we really have ~500 terrorism related deaths in Kashmir in 2008 and like a 1000 in 2006 ? My memory is failing me but those 2 numbers seem rather high.
cowboysfan Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 hmm 2002-taliban driven out of afghanistan.that cannot be a coincidence.
EnterTheVoid Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Is it only Indian Kasmir or does it include Pakistan Occupied Kashmir as well ?
The Outsider Posted December 29, 2009 Author Posted December 29, 2009 Broken up within civilian, security, and terrorists for Kashmir and Pakistan KC - Kashmir Civilian KS - Kashmir Security KT - Kashmir Terrorists and so on.... PK - the numbers probably seem high because they include security forces and terrorists. sree - these are only for the Indian state of J&K. Data is from : http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/index.htm http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/index.html
Bumper Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Interesting graph. As for interpretation, I reckon its more like: Formerly laid off terrorists who went to Kashmir for jobs, have found that the economy is booming back home & have come to roost. This has caused an unreal boom that is hard to sustain, but since the terrorist economy has embarked on a path of unparalleled innovation, I reckon it will conitnue to boom in the years to come. In the mean time, Kashmir is suffering a recession that was well past due, as its boom was based on much weaker foundations.
Dravid Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 in b4 "still proud of the poyzz" comment comes
gs Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 in before "cost of fighting someone else's war" comments :winky:
triam Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 The 60 thousand dollar question is, will this parasite move back to kashmir, if and when pak manages to control their country? if it will move back, what can India do to avert this mess again
seedhi Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 The 60 thousand dollar question is' date=' will this parasite move back to kashmir,[b'] if and when pak manages to control their country? if it will move back, what can India do to avert this mess againWe should never let this happen. India should use everything in its power to ensure that the situation in pakistan deteriorates even more, hopefully into a civil war. Let them burn and keep them burning.
ViruRulez Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 good to see the graph and the trend but I am also worried like triam that will the Pakis again start their obnoxious activities in Kashmir after they regain control of their country.. I dont see their leaders willing to fight terrorists and their country's management is one of the worst possible and unpredictable .. though I would personally not like a civilian war as seedhi mentioned but if they are again planning their obnoxious activities once their country becomes stable again then I would not feel bad if they go into a civil war too
Bumper Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 vroom, I dont know if you are reading this. Do you recall the discussion in the below thread ? This is why an unstable Pakistan is good for India. Pakistan: A failed state run by failed citizens http://indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=145126
EnterTheVoid Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Have you ever wondered what these kids are taught at these Madrasa' ? Judge for yourself [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U316MPkAWtQ]YouTube- Child Militancy in Pakistan[/ame]
gs Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 India should not rest until Pakistan is broken down into smaller more manageable states. There is no unifying factor in that country except their hatred for India. So in the long run only one of the two can survive and I hope its India.
Ram Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Not a surprising trend at all... As Pakistani security apparatus is occupied more extensively on its Western Front with Afghanistan, they have lesser time to arm, train and facilitate infiltration of Mujahideen on its Eastern front with India. But we'd all do well to not assume that a state of perennial conflict inside Pakistan is the best guarantor of peace in J&K. Violence and extremism has this uncanny knack of spreading, no matter what the roadblocks are. An unstable, effervescent and violent Pakistani society spells doom for the collective future for all of South Asia.
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