coffee_rules Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 It is not the most difficult thing in the world to rally Conservative base. They generally vote en-masse anyway. Right. I meant to say, the more "liberal" media makes fun of her, it will work for her own good as that will energize the conservative base more. She will go all the way as I felt she was restrained in 2008. If Bush can do it, even Palin can.
Brainfade Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Not to defend Palin, but ... maybe she just can't afford a teleprompter. Taken in isolation, I can't see the difference. Can you? That said, she's nowhere near being Presidential material. But to rile on her for writing notes on her palm is disingenuous when the real President reads all his speeches off a teleprompter and stutters when it fails 5TMrxqdX64Q
triam Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 ^__^ But she was the one who made fun of OBamas teleprompter, so of course everyone has a right to poke back at her for her notes on the hand and really what were they, hahah talking points? They are supposedly the basics of conservative politics, so why does she need a pointer for that?
Clarke Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Right. I meant to say' date=' the more "liberal" media makes fun of her, it will work for her own good as that will energize the conservative base more. She will go all the way as I felt she was restrained in 2008. If Bush can do it, even Palin can.[/quote'] I disagree on the first point, the trouble sometimes is the conservatives can beat around a topic so much, it'll seem genuine however crappy it is. McCain was portrayed by the Bush supporters as anti breast cancer programs, the fact being he opposed big spending bills that had the sensitive issue added to get passed. The Clinton impeachment proceedings were a farce .. he was impeached by the house on BS charges, while Bushie gets to drag the country into a useless war for no reason. Obama was portrayed as pro-Islamic as well to scare off people; the birthers created the citizenship controversy out of nothing. Truth is, these crazies and their lies have to be ridiculed and crushed, or else they will make stories out of thin air seem truthful. You are right in the end though, which justifies "If Bush can do it, even Palin can". maybe she just can't afford a teleprompter. Taken in isolation, I can't see the difference. Can you? That said, she's nowhere near being Presidential material. But to rile on her for writing notes on her palm is disingenuous when the real President reads all his speeches off a teleprompter and stutters when it fails Thats hardly the point. If you see Obama's town halls in entirety , he's been pretty good. Even otherwise, speeches are not the deciding factor for political leadership.
coffee_rules Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Truth is, these crazies and their lies have to be ridiculed and crushed, or else they will make stories out of thin air seem truthful. You are right in the end though, which justifies "If Bush can do it, even Palin can". There are crazies on the other side as well. The health-care agenda of liberals is so big and spendthrift, the country will be go bankrupt by the end of 2016 after Obama's second term.
punjabi_khota Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 maybe she just can't afford a teleprompter. Taken in isolation, I can't see the difference. Can you? That said, she's nowhere near being Presidential material. But to rile on her for writing notes on her palm is disingenuous when the real President reads all his speeches off a teleprompter and stutters when it fails 5TMrxqdX64Q You are turning around the argument. She made fun of Obama for reading through the teleprompter, and thats when she got riled for having stuff written on her hand. I know your love for conservatives dude, but you don't have to defend the indefensible. :eyedance:
Lurker Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Taken in isolation, I can't see the difference. Can you? The big difference, to me and dare I say most people, is that while one can accuse Obama of reading from a teleprompter there would be very few who would actually accuse him of being stupid. Even his strongest critics call him as smart intellactual, and then qualify it with a "misled and misinformed". On the other hand even Palin's biggest supporter dont think of her as smart and intellactual. Her whole USP is being dumb and a person of the masses. Her knowledge, or lack thereof, is fairly evident every time she steps up to podium and hence the whole "Soccer Mom" persona. When Obama reads from a teleprompter it is a means to deliver a good speech. When Palin does she is basically covering her idiocy, as far as I am concerned anyway. xxx
Riley's Girl Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 ^ Lurker summed up the whole situation in one single post. :hatsoff:
punjabi_khota Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 On top of all that, I would be surprised if Obama was reading from teleprompter while having a q/a session or an interview. Palin was caught reading her hand while she was answering questions sitting on her sofa.
Riley's Girl Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 On top of all that' date=' I would be surprised if Obama was reading from teleprompter while having a q/a session or an interview. Palin was caught reading her hand while she was answering questions sitting on her sofa.[/quote'] Exactly.
Brainfade Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 The big difference, to me and dare I say most people, is that while one can accuse Obama of reading from a teleprompter there would be very few who would actually accuse him of being stupid. Even his strongest critics call him as smart intellactual, and then qualify it with a "misled and misinformed". On the other hand even Palin's biggest supporter dont think of her as smart and intellactual. Her whole USP is being dumb and a person of the masses. Her knowledge, or lack thereof, is fairly evident every time she steps up to podium and hence the whole "Soccer Mom" persona. When Obama reads from a teleprompter it is a means to deliver a good speech. When Palin does she is basically covering her idiocy, as far as I am concerned anyway. xxx Response to p_k and Lurker: Did you all see my disclaimer - "Taken in isolation"? Let me explain: In and of itself, writing notes on one's palm is not a sign of stupidity. There is enough evidence otherwise to show Palin's lack of preparedness. It irritates me when people criticize others for non-substantive issues (I have stood up for Obama on this board when he was criticized for some irrelevant thing) I don't know about you all, but I find it funny that a man who has the reputation for being a great orator essentially depends a crutch, and stumbles badly when the crutch malfunctions. It was funny to see him squirm and be laughed at. Does that mean he's a bad President? Certainly not. Bottom line: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Does Colbert know that?
achilles Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 This is the funniest official response I've seen for a very long time - ktTFtqK_XwQ White House Spokesperson pwns Sarah Palin
Mr. Wicket Posted February 10, 2010 Posted February 10, 2010 Bottom line: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Does Colbert know that? Of course. Even Colbert wrote on his hand! From his twitter: " Can't get that "thumb" reminder off my hand. I lost my note that tells me how to erase writing from skin "
Brainfade Posted February 11, 2010 Posted February 11, 2010 Of course. Even Colbert wrote on his hand! From his twitter: " Can't get that "thumb" reminder off my hand. I lost my note that tells me how to erase writing from skin " So, has he ever mocked a failed teleprompter? If not, here's my view of Colbert:
graphic23 Posted February 12, 2010 Posted February 12, 2010 CA, actually he's made fun of Obama's flip flopping lately too. Of course, he's an expert at ridiculing the Fox News channel (because, frankly, they deserve it).
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