ViruRulez Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 So muslims behead a non believer in the name of islam and we can't even discuss the religious aspect! The islamic pressure has worked brillinatly world wide from satanic verses to the danish cartoons. To question the religion of islam is banned in freedom of speech areas. This website is just a minature of this. Islamic terror and pressure in creating non freedom of speech in regards to their religion now rules everywere! The jihadis have won another battle! Perhaps you are mistaken .. it is not only Muslim or Hindu or Christian or Sikh or Buddhist or any other specific religion but religious discussion of any kind is forbidden as per the board rules ... anyways I think we all agree that is dirty act done by dogs .. but again dogs are everywhere and so it is not sensible to call names of religions etc. .. nobody is forbidding you to smash and say anything about Talibans or even Pakis .. but to generalize any religion is improper .. discuss it but dont generalize religions .. that is all that was said by Rajeev IMO
azanian Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Sunni muslims are killing shiate muslims in Pakistan by the thousands and so it's not inconceivable that the Sikhs were murdered simply because they refused to convert to Islam
punjabiplaya Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Yeah but wherever n r i are they still view india as the motherland! sikhs n hindus are indian through and through,remember it was forced really as it was all india once,they thought at the time why should we move from our home our fortune,but of course they targetted these sikhs, ok i agree there pakistani nationals but we would all identify sikhs n hindus as indians ,as a previous poster said not christians...i would say also not muslims... so i feel the indian government should make enquiries as don corleone would!
pappu_kanghi Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 and why shouldnt india care??? oh i am sorry there can be over 1 million bangbros refugees in india but u have problems with 600 to 700 sikhs who are fighting for their survival? there are not more then 1000 sikhs in the swat valley and over 160 million muslims in india, if 0.2% percent of them are killed not only the pakis but every nation would ask questions to india! Same thing what happ in orissa there was violence againt christians, india had to give answers to U.S:A, Australia and many other christian countries! and if there is violence against sikhs anywhere obv, they are gonna ask India who else???? Dont talk like a fool. Our govt. cant even stop Shiv Sena guys and stand for our people and you are expecting them to stand up for the certain section of people living in other country? Its all politics nothing else. And when did India give answers to USA, Australia and other countries? Post a link here i want to read.
Clarke Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 and why shouldnt india care??? oh i am sorry there can be over 1 million bangbros refugees in india but u have problems with 600 to 700 sikhs who are fighting for their survival? there are not more then 1000 sikhs in the swat valley and over 160 million muslims in india, if 0.2% percent of them are killed not only the pakis but every nation would ask questions to india! Same thing what happ in orissa there was violence againt christians, india had to give answers to U.S:A, Australia and many other christian countries! and if there is violence against sikhs anywhere obv, they are gonna ask India who else???? Thats not quite the international status quo .. one should know how to handle these things. When India expressed concern over treatment of Indian origin people in Malaysia, they simply snubbed us saying those are Malaysian citizens and its their internal matter. That certainly seems a more logical approach.
pappu_kanghi Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Thats not quite the international status quo .. one should know how to handle these things. When India expressed concern over treatment of Indian origin people in Malaysia' date=' they simply snubbed us saying those are Malaysian citizens and[b'] its their internal matter. That certainly seems a more logical approach. Exactly. Is that so difficult to understand?
Bumblebee Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 Thats not quite the international status quo .. one should know how to handle these things. When India expressed concern over treatment of Indian origin people in Malaysia' date=' they simply snubbed us saying those are Malaysian citizens and its their internal matter. That certainly seems a more logical approach.[/quote'] giving malaysia's example (which is another muslim country and has prejudicial rules against other religons) is not a good one buddy! and again i am not saying All muslims are like this just pointing out the example isnt a good one! As punjabiplaya said if sikhs or hindus are gonna have problems in any other country be it pakistan or any other christian country, they are going to look fwd to india for help!
Clarke Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 giving malaysia's example (which is another muslim country and has prejudicial rules against other religons) is not a good one buddy! and again i am not saying All muslims are like this just pointing out the example isnt a good one! As punjabiplaya said if sikhs or hindus are gonna have problems in any other country be it pakistan or any other christian country, they are going to look fwd to india for help! The example of Malaysia represents the harsh reality of the world. USA might ask India questions regarding Orissa while Saudi Arabia always gets a free trip by virtue of 266 billion barrels of oil. Your view is from the moral perspective while myself/kanghi look at it from the diplomatic/political perspective. As i have mentioned earlier, our suggestions on granting residence to certain communities will simply be rubbished by Pakistan simply by pointing on 1984, 2002, 1992 or simply the word dalit. It will make us look silly on the international stage (as if we havent had enough of that). Lets just try and make our country a better place for its citizens. Instead of our citizens immigrating elsewhere, it should be the other way round to really offer millions of foreigners a home.
mhr123 Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 and why shouldnt india care??? oh i am sorry there can be over 1 million bangbros refugees in india but u have problems with 600 to 700 sikhs who are fighting for their survival? there are not more then 1000 sikhs in the swat valley and over 160 million muslims in india, if 0.2% percent of them are killed not only the pakis but every nation would ask questions to india! Same thing what happ in orissa there was violence againt christians, india had to give answers to U.S:A, Australia and many other christian countries! and if there is violence against sikhs anywhere obv, they are gonna ask India who else???? Mate... Graham Staines and his two sons were Australian missionary and social worker. They were not Indian citizen , Aussie govt. asked Indian gov. for an explaination which was there right.
Rajiv Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 So muslims behead a non believer in the name of islam and we can't even discuss the religious aspect! The islamic pressure has worked brillinatly world wide from satanic verses to the danish cartoons. To question the religion of islam is banned in freedom of speech areas. This website is just a minature of this. Islamic terror and pressure in creating non freedom of speech in regards to their religion now rules everywere! The jihadis have won another battle! Why don't you leave the site then, don't question the rules here - if u dont like it.please leave if u continue with the same stuff, you will let go eventually Choice is urs
Mr. Wicket Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 The islamic pressure has worked brillinatly world wide from satanic verses to the danish cartoons. To question the religion of islam is banned in freedom of speech areas. This website is just a minature of this. Then if you have a problem, take your **** some place else. Kthxbye.
Rajiv Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 ^^^ U-S I think ur comments are way outta line and disrespectful. I humbly ask u don't to flare it up with more dramatic lines We feel the same pain but we don't go out lashing out there I hate Taliban and Pakistanis too, but we have Indian Muslims here too and can't just allow others to fulfill their agenda or look for a reason to bring sensitive topics up We have already said "NO RELIGIOUS TALKS", very simple line I don't understand why some people don't get it, and in this case, I think the person who flares it up is equally responsible So, I humbly request again ( others didnt get the message the first time)
Pakistan-India Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Shall we remind our selves of Gujrat riots, this is 2-3 sikhs in Pakistan after how many years been targeted. and yet gets the headline on all the indian channels, but when 1000 die its just normal.
The Outsider Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Shall we remind our selves of Gujrat riots' date=' this is 2-3 sikhs in Pakistan after how many years been targeted. and yet gets the headline on all the indian channels, but when 1000 die its just normal.[/quote'] Errr.....remind yourself of whatever you want, but Gujarat riots "normal". It was a massive breakdown of security and got 24*7 coverage on Indian media. It is still covered on the Indian media, there are court cases ongoing, and some convictions have also been handed talk. The irony is that you are talking about a one eyed view and blatantly lying.
Lurker Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Typically these kinds of threads bring out 3 distinct set of people: a) Folks who would like to talk about it without being disrespectful to anyone. b) Indians who are total work of art proudly declaring their hate for anything Islamic and banging the same old tune that they have on millions of ocassions. c) Jackasses from across the border whose sole USP seems to be "Gujarat". as if without Gujarat Pakistanis and BDeshish were in love with India!! b) and c) should make their own message boards and duke it out I suppose. Why mess with civil people if you do not have a civil bone in you???
Bumblebee Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Typically these kinds of threads bring out 3 distinct set of people: a) Folks who would like to talk about it without being disrespectful to anyone. b) Indians who are total work of art proudly declaring their hate for anything Islamic and banging the same old tune that they have on millions of ocassions. c) Jackasses from across the border whose sole USP seems to be "Gujarat". as if without Gujarat Pakistanis and BDeshish were in love with India!! b) and c) should make their own message boards and duke it out I suppose. Why mess with civil people if you do not have a civil bone in you??? and surely brings a baba aghori nath who likes to judge people!
ViruRulez Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 giving malaysia's example (which is another muslim country and has prejudicial rules against other religons) is not a good one buddy! and again i am not saying All muslims are like this just pointing out the example isnt a good one! As punjabiplaya said if sikhs or hindus are gonna have problems in any other country be it pakistan or any other christian country, they are going to look fwd to india for help! The example of Malaysia represents the harsh reality of the world. USA might ask India questions regarding Orissa while Saudi Arabia always gets a free trip by virtue of 266 billion barrels of oil. Your view is from the moral perspective while myself/kanghi look at it from the diplomatic/political perspective. As i have mentioned earlier, our suggestions on granting residence to certain communities will simply be rubbished by Pakistan simply by pointing on 1984, 2002, 1992 or simply the word dalit. It will make us look silly on the international stage (as if we havent had enough of that). Lets just try and make our country a better place for its citizens. Instead of our citizens immigrating elsewhere, it should be the other way round to really offer millions of foreigners a home. I hardly know much about Malaysia but I had recently checked the Malaysia's richest persons and I saw that the who list was nearly filled with non-Muslims .. even a person with a South Asian name Ananda Krishnan (seemed SL Tamil origin after research) was the second richest person .. he is even 70% stake/owner of our own Aircel company .. there were several South Asian names in the top 40 richest list .. after researching I found that one of the top 40 richest and owner of Malayasia's largest airlines was also born of Indian (Goan) father .. and he was fully supported by the Malaysian PM and has also started his line of hotels etc. at Bali .. there are more than half of Malayasia's richest of Chinese or East Asian origin .. I dont know a lot about Malaysia but I dont think there is such a huge problem for minorities there otherwise more than 3/4th of the country's richest would not have been minorities .. anyways I agree that Malaysia is not an ideal example too because the South Asians from India, SL etc. went there as early as 1500 years ago and are only of Indian origin ... Infact Malaysia was ruled by Indians and Chinese kings as early as 1000 AD ... so, I think that comparison with Malaysia would be right Pakistan is a different case but then as I said previously we should give refuge to victims and people who are suffering but it should not be based on religion but on humanitarian grounds. But at the same time we cannot allow millions but if there are limited number of people who can be adjusted without affecting the economy then why not.
Texy Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 Shall we remind our selves of Gujrat riots' date=' this is 2-3 sikhs in Pakistan after how many years been targeted. and yet gets the headline on all the indian channels, but when 1000 die its just normal.[/quote'] shall I remind you of 500,000 estimated hindu women your people raped/killed during '71 or should I remind you of thousands of Kashmiri pundits slaughtered in the name of Islam and Kashmir by YOUR people during 90s forced convertions, kidnapping of hindu women and men happens all the time in Pakistan along with gang rapes and honor killings but the islamic media hardly ever highlights it...it's like Al Jazeera covering a terrorist bombing.
mainhoonna Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 This thread reminds me of the movie Zakhm with everyone pinning their own agenda's on 2 dead men.Aadmi kitna gir sakta hai.
ViruRulez Posted February 25, 2010 Posted February 25, 2010 I've no intention of flaring up things here, was just telling DSR that it is no point in making such topics here, the responses surely proves that point. another thing, is when you already told DSR to leave if he wanted, why did this wierdo so called mr.wicket repeat the same in a much agressive manner, wtf is he trying to prove here? that he's a mod and can post whatever he wants, such stupid people deserve no respect whatsoever, he might've been a ICF member since eternity, that does'nt mean that he acts like a loser :finger: I just post on CT or CC, not even bothered about other politics, but when one poster is targeted by others for saying something bad agianst padosis, it is not right. You were not very harsh in your comments against DSR, I wish he comes back & posts here and not worry about some other freaks out here. I am not defending or saying against anybody but the post or the poster you were referring was not saying about padosis but was abusing a religion .. perhaps there lies the difference .. if there was about a person or about padosis there was no problem but you CANNOT generalize or abuse any religion.. that holds not only for one religion but for any religion at all .. if tomorrow somebody abuses your religion would you still say the same .. saying bad against a person or an enemy nation and saying bad against a religion holds a lot of difference .. I hope you can understand this
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