zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 From 1 Jan 1996 to 1 Jan 2002 (a period of 6 years), based on figs you could say Srinath was the most 'effective' pace bowler from the sub-continent. It should be noted that in the 1996-2001 period, Sri was almost at his peak, while Waqar and Wasim may not have been at their peak. But being champion bowlers, they could still be as good as Sri Bowler Inn Wkts Avg SR 5 fors Wkts/Inn Srinath 73 170 28 56 10 2.33 Waqar 65 132 27 50 2 2.03 Wasim 64 125 26 59 5 1.95 Other top bowlers during that period McGrath 120 302 21 49 18 2.52 Pollock 106 249 20 53 14 2.35 Donald 84 221 20 44 15 2.63 Walsh 92 218 24 59 11 2.37 Ambrose 69 147 20 56 9 2.13 Vaas 77 143 30 69 3 1.86 Even though Vaas has 143 wkts, his Avg and SR are not in the league of Sri, Waqar and Wasim (talking about bowlers from sub-continent) PS Added Wkts/Inn column as well
Show_stopper Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 LOL..pak fans pwnd as always. The fact is pak has always 'underperformed' when you consider the resources they have had. many oft heir fans put it down to 'politics' whereas actual analysis of the stats would show why they have been so poor and their delusions of grandeur are baseless. Basically most pakistanis are confused regarding their Test and LOI performances. It was in the latter that they excelled in the 90's. As far as Tet was concerned they were merely above average side.
zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 also all this hatred of pakistan from indians - its a bit racist isnt it. ah ha pak passion :P Anyways, why many Indians laugh at Pak is because: 1. Despite Pak supporting terrorism in Ind, Pakis think that they should be respected by Indians 2. Pakis think they are as good as Indians because they share the border. Which also means that their economy (despite being on verge of bankruptcy at times) is automatically as good as Ind's (which is world's 4th largest economy based on PPP) 3. For them beating Ind = being the best in the world 4. They criticize Ind but secretly crave for Bollywood and IPL 5. For them equality is also based on sharing negatives for example if a Paki explodes 100 bombs and an Ind explodes 1. They are both equally bad because at the end of the day they both exploded bombs (numbers don't matter)
zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 rett - pakistanis are as good as indians because like indians they are human beings. Indians should stop this racism. For racism, check pak passion :winky:
zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 rett - I will and if I see racism like this on there then I will say the same thing. I do not understand why racism is such a part of developing nations. Appears as if you haven't heard abt KKK, Hitler, etc. If I recall correctly, you were presented with videos on 'racism in Britain' before you were banned. So why try to discuss the same thing again?
Sachinism Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 What racism do you see here? There is some mocking going on, but not racism
UmarAkmal Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 ah ha pak passion :P Anyways, why many Indians laugh at Pak is because: 1. Despite Pak supporting terrorism in Ind, Pakis think that they should be respected by Indians 2. Pakis think they are as good as Indians because they share the border. Which also means that their economy (despite being on verge of bankruptcy at times) is automatically as good as Ind's (which is world's 4th largest economy based on PPP) 3. For them beating Ind = being the best in the world 4. They criticize Ind but secretly crave for Bollywood and IPL 5. For them equality is also based on sharing negatives for example if a Paki explodes 100 bombs and an Ind explodes 1. They are both equally bad because at the end of the day they both exploded bombs (numbers don't matter) Another internet warrior :cantstop: You need to stop getting facts from Star News.
hari504504 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 ummm nazi germany - developing nation Nazi germany was one of the most industrially advanced countries in the world during its time...which helped them turn into a ruthless war machinery... And if you're saying that Racism doesn't happen in 'developed countries'(or 'developed parts' of developed countries) then...good luck to you :haha:
zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 ummm nazi germany - developing nation KKK in the developing parts of the USA racism in britain confined to a tiny minority as opposed to the widespread and casual racism Indians and Pakistanis display towards one another. I think Britain on this count is better than India. The point is racism is not limited to developing countries :winky: .... Ok so now the debate is on which one is better *rolleyes* Anyways before trying to point towards Indians for racism, may be you need to stop being racist towards Indians in the first place place. Obviously, you aren't posting with an open mind here and you seem to have some kind of an agenda
satyam1729 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 calling england minnows is a bit rich from the fan of a team that is worse than england Yes England is a cricket power. It has not won a series in India for 26 years. England against major nations since 1990 :hysterical::giggle::haha: http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=140;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=win_loss_ratio;spanmin1=02+jan+1990;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team
UmarAkmal Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 rett - no problem with indians just the racism shown towards pakistanis satayam - England has a better win percentage than India All major test playing nations have better win percentage than India except minnows.:winky:
satyam1729 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 rett - no problem with indians just the racism shown towards pakistanis satayam - England has a better win percentage than India India did not beat a lot of newly emerged sides . Why don't you check the record of last 30 years? England is a pathetic ODI side and average test side. When was the last time England won a test series against India. Go back to BNP site and write rubbish against India not here.
zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 rett - no problem with indians just the racism shown towards pakistanis If Indians were just racist against Pakis then that's acceptable because Pak is an enemy state that's responsible for carrying proxy war on India. So it's not as if Indians, if you think they do that, do that without any reason or for the heck of it. This, hopefully, clears your doubts
satyam1729 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 All major test playing nations have better win percentage than India except minnows.:winky: And yet India reached no.1 in test and ODI something which Pak were never able to do.:haha::haha:
vvvslaxman Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 rett - no problem with indians just the racism shown towards pakistanis satayam - England has a better win percentage than India Stating the truth is not racism :winky:
satyam1729 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 satyam one might think you have a problem all I said was that England overall is a better side than India and you accuse me of being a BNP member a little bit of an overreaction. rett: racism is never acceptable. Even to enemy states. In the Second world War in Britain, during the blitz - which is a worse attack on Britain than any in India allegedly sponsored by Pakistan.. the government worked to stop people being racist towards the Germans. hari - the nazis developed germany from a failed state under the Weimar regime. Yes England overall is a better side despite its record is similar to Bangladesh in ICC multi-nations tournaments. When are you going to win a World Cup?
zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 satyam one might think you have a problem all I said was that England overall is a better side than India and you accuse me of being a BNP member a little bit of an overreaction. rett: racism is never acceptable. Even to enemy states. In the Second world War in Britain, during the blitz - which is a worse attack on Britain than any in India allegedly sponsored by Pakistan.. the government worked to stop people being racist towards the Germans. hari - the nazis developed germany from a failed state under the Weimar regime. I thought it is already accepted that racism exists through out the world. The point is that Ind (IF it is being racist) is doing that to its enemy state Why don't you try to preach racism to Islamic countries esp against countries like Israel? Why don't you preach against non-secularism? I am sure there are far more pressing issue than an Ind being racist against a Paki or vice versa. Unless you have an agenda against Indians, I don't see why you should be trying to turn every thread in to that. And it's not like anyone is going to consider your opinion (biased) here :P
hari504504 Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 satyam one might think you have a problem all I said was that England overall is a better side than India and you accuse me of being a BNP member a little bit of an overreaction. rett: racism is never acceptable. Even to enemy states. In the Second world War in Britain, during the blitz - which is a worse attack on Britain than any in India allegedly sponsored by Pakistan.. the government worked to stop people being racist towards the Germans. hari - the nazis developed germany from a failed state under the Weimar regime. England is a better side ? ..in what format?..and why do you think the ICC ranking don't do justice to England's or India's position for the respective formats ?
zen Posted April 24, 2010 Posted April 24, 2010 we have a good chance in any tournament. However winning the world cup is not really that important. yeah, it's not :hysterical:
satyam1729 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Posted April 24, 2010 we have a good chance in any tournament. However winning the world cup is not really that important. Yes then why waste time in playing ? Zimbawe also had a good chance in T20 WC. But did you allow them to play?
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