No UDRS system for Australia (and NZ) series: BCCI

[nospam]

I hope there are no major f**k ups :crosses_fingers:

[Gunner_Mania]

I hope there are no major f**k ups :crosses_fingers:

I haven't seen the day's play, but looking at the comments on the board, would it be time for a Timely BUMP?

[Sachinism]

Bowden kicks off in the 1st over what a turd

[ZodiaC]

Thank you BCCI We're gonna win this and forget all about those **** ups, but we're gonna get screwed again and again.. :mad:

[kabira]

Its win - win for us. If we lose, umpires will have major hand, may be team and BCCI will wake up. And if win, well thats all good

[asterix]

You cannot replace Umpire baise by having UDRS. Bowden has been an eternal friend of Aussies. UDRS only gioves you to sort out few decisions. But Bowden and strike you inspite of UDRS or not. The effort should be to weed out these baised umpires like Bowden or not at all assigning them series involving Aussies..

[fineleg]

If we lose Test-1, can we get UDRS for Test-2??? I remember reading Nimbus or whoever has the system ready in India? Can we get it in short notice for Test-2 This is ridiculous to not have UDRS.

[thevortex]

You guys - only those who watched all of yesterday's and today's play - do you realize the number of balls Hawkeye showed as hitting/shaving the leg stump? Would you want to have all those given as LBW's?

[Guest BossBhai]

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[CSK Fan]

You guys - only those who watched all of yesterday's and today's play - do you realize the number of balls Hawkeye showed as hitting/shaving the leg stump? Would you want to have all those given as LBW's?

Stop trying to muddy things up. You very well know that if H/E shows shaving wickets, the umpire's original descision, whether out or not out, would hold. So it wouldnt have made an iota of diffference to those marginal calls but would have mattered a lot in obvious errors

[Gunner_Mania]

Theoretically yes. Practically no.

Theoretically also No. The Aussies wanted it before the series, India said No, why would or rather why should the Aussies now agree to have it mid way? This is the same like, if the captains agreed not to have the use of floodlights at the beginning of the series, they won't agree half way through to have it.

[Gunner_Mania]

You guys - only those who watched all of yesterday's and today's play - do you realize the number of balls Hawkeye showed as hitting/shaving the leg stump? Would you want to have all those given as LBW's?

Yes - if the umpire gave it out before going to Hawkeye No - if the Umpire gave it not out before going to Hawkeye.

[thevortex]

Stop trying to muddy things up. You very well know that if H/E shows shaving wickets' date=' the umpire's original descision, whether out or not out, would hold. So it wouldnt have made an iota of diffference to those marginal calls but would have mattered a lot in obvious errors[/quote']

Yes - if the umpire gave it out before going to Hawkeye No - if the Umpire gave it not out before going to Hawkeye.

OK guys you want to play the millimetre game, here we go! The rule (regarding Hawkeye) is that more than half of the ball has to be shown as hitting the stumps. What is the difference (in mm) between exactly just less than half of the ball and exactly just more than half of the ball? Now take that advertised error margin of Hawkeye. You figure things out yourself. And just for facts' sake, there is wrong information going around in the cricket cricles that the error margin (accepted by Hawkeye Inc.) is 3 mm. The claimed value by the company is 6 mm. And Gunner - we have been through the various permutations and combinations and how in certain circumstances, the umpire (TV or main) does not have any control over the final decision.

[fineleg]

Theoretically yes. Practically no.

Do both countries need to agree? I thought it is Host Country decision. So, if BCCI decides they can get the system, right? Aus dont have voice in this right? But I guess nothing will happen for Test-2.

[Gunner_Mania]

Does both countries need to agree? I thought it is Host Country decision. So, if BCCI decides they can get the system, right? Aus dont have voice in this right? But I guess nothing will happen for Test-2.

No they can't. The host country SL wanted the UDRS in the last series. India refused. Both countries have to agree.

[fineleg]

^ Ah ok!

[Karan114]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/top-stories/BCCI-not-ready-to-use-UDRS-for-future-series/articleshow/6692591.cms BCCI not ready to use UDRS for future series NEW DELHI: Australian captain Ricky Ponting may be unhappy that Umpires' Decision Review System (UDRS) introduced by the ICC was not used during the series but the BCCI is still not ready to use it for India's future series. "I believe that one should use the UDRS system for international matches. When I came here, I wanted to know whether we would be using the UDRS system. I think if you use the UDRS, you get more correct decisions and it's not hard on players," said Ponting. He was forthright in his assessment about some of the debatable decisions given by umpires Ian Gould and Billy Bowden. When BCCI Secretary N Srinivasan was contacted, he did not sound too keen about the use of UDRS for India's forthcoming three-Test series against New Zealand. "Umpires are human beings and they can make errors. Rather than stressing on the wrong decisions given, we should be happy that India has won the Test match. As of now, I can tell you that we are not thinking about using the UDRS for the New Zealand series," Srinivasan said. During the first Test, some decisions went wrong including Gautam Gambhir's leg before off Doug Bollinger when the ball hit the inside edge of his bat onto the pads. Ishant Sharma was given leg before off Hilefenhaus at a very crucial juncture when the television replays were clearly showing that delivery was going down the leg-side. Even Australians seemed to be at the receiving end as Pragyan Ojha got reprieve when he looked plumb off a Mitchell Johnson delivery while Michael Hussey was given leg before with the ball pitching a foot outside the line of the stumps. It is still not clear whether the Indian players are reluctant to use the UDRS which is why the BCCI does not agree to use it in the series. When asked about this, man of the match Zaheer Khan did not throw much light on the Indian team's stand on the issue. "I mean if the technology is available, you can give it to the umpires so that they can use it," Zaheer said. Former Somerset captain and cricket columnist Peter Roebuck feels that it's time that the Indian Cricket Board agrees to use UDRS. "In close games, you can refer to technology. Well, in this match, it evened out as both sides were at the receiving end of some poor decisions. But what if India or Australia alone would have got all the wrong decisions?" he questioned. "Also the fact that if one uses it, it does not make the umpires look silly when they get a decision wrong," he said.

[Gunner_Mania]

Dravid: No harm in having review system Rahul Dravid today endorsed the use of Umpire Decision Review System (UDRS), saying that if the technology is foolproof and the system can ensure uniformity, there is no harm in going for the review system. "My personal view is that if it can be proved that technology is foolproof, there is no harm in going for it. As long as we can be sure that it is available for every Test match, every condition all over the world and it's uniform," Dravid said while responding to a question at the end of day three of the first Test between India and Australia here. In response to Australia's first innings total of 428, India were bowled out at 405, with Dravid making 77. The veteran batsman, who has 29 centuries from 142 Tests to his name, said, "there is a lot of ambiguity as to what kind of technology is available. In some series, you don't get the same cameras, slow motion cameras and other equipment and that's some sort of thing which creates ambiguity." "If we can have a common sort (uniform) of system in every series, I see no reason why we cannot have it," he said. "I don't think we are completely there, but we are getting there. I think the ICC may get to a position where Umpire Decision Review System will become part and parcel of the game and I would welcome it," the veteran batsman said. http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/30921/Dravid--No-harm-in-having-review-system

[EnterTheVoid]

The irony in BCCI so vehemently rejecting the UDRS is sickening.

[vvvslaxman]

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12933_6431087,00.html It's hard to stomach Umpire errors are tough to take when India won't get real David Lloyd Posted 6th October 2010 view comments It's been a heavy social week - with a bit of 'Mick Jagger' and belly-fighting thrown in! The Ryder Cup was unbelievable, wasn't it? Mine started properly on Sunday when six of us went to the 'Spoons. It can be a bit rough in there and there was a bit of a scrap at 11.30am so we all moved onto the Brigadier's House for lunch on the proviso that Lady Carr served up a hotpot with Haywards red cabbage. It had to be Haywards or we weren't going! Not rocket science: umpires Billy Bowden and Ian Gould could have done with some help in Mohali t was a cracking day for Europe and we all totally enjoyed it before heading our separate ways. Great cause I missed Monday's play (just as I missed Accy hitting a magnificent seven against Gillingham and one of the best Tests ever - India v Australia in Mohali) but it was all in a great cause. Each year we put on a golf day in memory of a friend of ours called Dave Evans and raise money for a local child; this time we played at Clitheroe golf club, in the lovely Ribble Valley, to help a little nine-year-old girl called Scarlet, who is not very well. After that, it was a case of 'Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be Mick Jagger!' The DJ (who was Joey Boswell out of 'Bread' - you know, the dopey one) put on 'Brown Sugar' and I did my bit too. Kenny Shuttleworth, Jack Simmons and David Hughes from my playing days were there too. Myself and David Hughes played together and got beaten 8&6. I was absolutely atrocious - I've never played that badly! Never mind, we raised an enormous amount of money after that by being completely barking mad. The Scouse Elvis brought the house down at the end of the night with his rendition of 'Suspicious Minds'. After that, it was a case of 'Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be Mick Jagger!' The DJ (who was Joey Boswell out of 'Bread' - you know, the dopey one) put on 'Brown Sugar' and I did my bit too. Apparently, there was talk of putting it on YouTube but I'll sue anyone who does! The next day I went back to the Headscarf (aka the Hesketh) and as I walked in I was confronted by two bare-chested blokes, the Group Captain and 34 Regular, who were belly-fighting. They started at different ends of the Tavern and ran each other; it's a case of last-man standing but these two are both good at it so after a bit of a breather they simply have another go! Help As far as the cricket goes, I'm still celebrating the end of the season but on a serious note - how good is the decision review system? The Indian Board wouldn't have it for their current series against Australia because one or two of the players don't like it and we saw some real shocking decisions as a result. My message to the BCCI? Get real because you need this system; it really helps the umpires. Umpires have made mistakes since the day the game was invented but you can't blame them anymore because we've got the equipment to help them out. Now India just have to use it! I'll say it again. It's time for India to get real. Apart from that it's full steam ahead for my theatre tour, which starts in Leamington on October 26. Click here to see the dates. Hopefully see you there!