Prasad might bag Oz coaching job

[thevortex]

I am not denying any of what Prasad was able to accomplish with our pacers. I think he did fantastic work. In fact, I was one of those who actually took his side, every time some jingoistic fans blamed him for the drop in the pace of our bowlers. But there seems to be prevailing opinion among certain sections of our fans that Prasad was the architect of our emergence in the pace bowling department. I was merely trying to address that opinion. Once again, I am not trying to diminish what he did with the Indian team (and you'd be hard pressed to find any post of mine that is along those lines).

Thats a complex question you have raised, Marris. For us outsiders (if I may include you too in that group:)), when the team does well, the coach deserves praise. That is why, even when we do not quite know Gary Kirsten's involvement and inputs to the team, we still praise him when the team gets good results. So naturally going by that rule, Prasad deserves praise for our bowlers' performances when he was at the helm.

[Ram]

Thats a complex question you have raised, Marris. For us outsiders (if I may include you too in that group:)), when the team does well, the coach deserves praise. That is why, even when we do not quite know Gary Kirsten's involvement and inputs to the team, we still praise him when the team gets good results. So naturally going by that rule, Prasad deserves praise for our bowlers' performances when he was at the helm.

I am sure he does. No one is attempting to deny him his fair share of credit. But to make the automatic inference the reason why guys like RP Singh, Ishant Sharma have fallen away from their glory days was because Prasad was fired, is once again, probably a mis-representation of reality.

[vaibhav_delhi]

good luck to prasad. i quite like what he said in the article. And if he could change his way of talking, tht wud be nice.

[thevortex]

I am sure he does. No one is attempting to deny him his fair share of credit. But to make the automatic inference the reason why guys like RP Singh' date=' Ishant Sharma have fallen away from their glory days was because Prasad was fired, is once again, probably a mis-representation of reality.[/quote'] Oh yes, you cant have it just one way of course. If he deserves credit for their good performances, then I guess he has to figure as at least one reason for the bowlers' non performance. It may not be that he was the only reason. Or even the most important reason. But we cannot straight away rule out that his absence was no factor. Like you say, yes, I would never say that just his removal was what affected all these bowlers.

[yoda]

good luck to prasad. i quite like what he said in the article. And if he could change his way of talking, tht wud be nice.

This whole issue about fake accent is misplaced, IMO. Some players (and other professionals) change their accent after putting in a lot of effort so that they can be better understood by a larger set of people world wide, not just to show off. You just slow down a bit, add emphasis on certain syllables, instead of rushing things like most desis do, nothing major actually.

[vaibhav_delhi]

@yoda: No probs with changing accents mate. I see many people who've lived in US in my org. talk in american accent. But one should be fluent enough, which prasad isnt IMO, putting pauses and 'ahhhs' and 'you knows' where they shouldnt be imo, doesnt sound good.

[saneindian]

I hope this is true and Venky ends up getting the job. Imagine the heartache it will cause in the land of pure!! BTW for all of you doubting Venky's coaching credentials, he has got the relevant coaching related certifications from everywhere, did well at NCA, did well at Karnataka, did well with team India and then has been doing a good job at CSK. So he DOES have the required credentials. Another thought, could it be something to do with Matty Hayden(from CSK of course) recently being appointed a director in CA?

[vvvslaxman]

Did bollingam recommend him coz of CSK connection?

[maniac]

Prasad I think is a lot like Sidhu in terms of being underrated for their Contributions Agreed Prasad might not have been the greatest bpwler ever but for a long time he was a good foil to srinath and as far as I can remember Srinath and Prasad despte not being fearsome by any means still were a consistent pair for a long time. I remember given a good pitch especially in S.A and England he did bowl pretty well and not to forget his contributions as a coach when our fast bowlers really did well. I guess we are suffering from Paki syndrome making fun of our own bowlers despite them bowling their hearts out on flat decks and setting up victories.We might have had ordinary fast bowlers with a few exceptions but they were the best of the lot and they did do really well for us.

[vaibhav_delhi]

^ you dont have to be a champion bowler to be a very good bowling coach. Tbh prasad was pretty ordinary in tests. Indias got alot better pace attack these days.

[maniac]

you dont have to be a champion bowler to be a very good bowling coach. Tbh prasad was pretty ordinary in tests. Indias got alot better pace attack these days

He was ordinary...agreed...But he was the best we had at that time and as I said to his credit he bowled pretty decently overseas as a good foil to srinath...All I am saying is that we make too much fun of him without acknowledging the fact that foortunately or unfortunately he was on of our better bowlers in the 90's. He is a decent coach as he has already proved.all I am saying is we make too much fun of our bowlers not giving them the respect they deserve.the world cup 96 moment alone makes him a legend in my book and also didn't he pwn the Pakis in 99 world cup as well?

[The Dark Horse]

Venkatesh Prasad will help ACC in promoting game in the region Venkatesh Prasad has an “interesting and challenging” assignment that will test his credentials as a coach and his experience as a former player. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) will avail of Prasads services to promote cricket in the region. Following a recommendation from the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), Prasad will travel to lesser known cricket-playing countries in Asia and look to identify and groom young talent. “I have been a player and a coach at different levels but this job means I will essentially develop cricket at the grassroots level. The very idea is so challenging and interesting,” said Prasad. STARTING FROM SCRATCH... Prasads work begins with “overseeing the cricket structure” in the country concerned. “I have to create proper infrastructure by guiding the local associations. It means I have to spot talent and also ensure they have a proper coaching staff to carry on the grooming process.” From developing cricket at the grassroots level to “taking it to the next level”, Prasad would spend more time with the coaches. “I have to ensure that there are enough coaches to handle the job professionally and correctly. “I will study the training and coaching programmes and then make the necessary recommendations. I will be conducting coaching seminars and organising competitions.” Prasad, a crafty swing bowler, took to coaching once he finished playing in 2004 with 96 wickets in 33 Tests and 196 ODI wickets in 161 matches. He was Indias under-17 coach before shifting to Karnataka for a season. He assisted the Indian team as a bowling coach for close to two years before he was removed unceremoniously last season. “I am not looking too far ahead. The ACC job will keep me busy for six months and then I have my contract with the Chennai Super Kings.” The 41-year-old Prasad was among the early Indian cricketers to have a secured a Level III coaching certificate from England. “It has helped me stay in touch with the game. I firmly believe in modern training methods but not at the cost of the basics. The basics remain the same, only your mindset changes. “I think the player should be allowed to play his natural game than being curbed by traditional methods. Look at (Virender) Sehwag. He defies the coaching manual when he plays the cover-drive. But he plays it as well as anyone else.” “Look at (Shivnarine) Chanderpauls stance. It defies the book again. You want the head to be still and in the right position when meeting the ball. Sehwag and Chanderpaul ensure that. “We need to be broad-minded towards changes in the game and move forward,” added Prasad, who travels to Malaysia on December 1 to begin his new assignment. http://channel-5.tv/Sports.aspx?id=6619 I read the same in yesterday's paper.

[King Tendulkar]

For the record Prasad was not a bad bowler. He was actually very decent. Maybe not brilliant or amazing but nevertheless a decent bowler!

[vaibhav_delhi]

For the record Prasad was not a bad bowler. He was actually very decent. Maybe not brilliant or amazing but nevertheless a decent bowler!

Agreed. He was a decent bowler looking at his record: http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/32345.html