rkt.india Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 But if you don't drop an under-performing player how else will he improve :dontknow: I doubt Steyn would have improved if he had continued to play every game for SA. He was already dropped in 2010 and came as a hugely improved since then and showed he can take wickets in tests. Steyn did not show that and hence was dropped. Steyn never played large no. of ODIs even after his come back in his early years, 2006 onwards, mostly tests which helped him a lot.
rkt.india Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Don't buy that. You can play and sensibly. You have a bowling coach' date=' many advisors, can ask for rest, diet and training control. It's all there if you want to follow it.[/quote'] He was rested in Asia cup, did not play all the ODIs or T20s even in Australia.
Crookbond Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Here's an amazing statistic. Dale Steyn has played a grand total of 63 ODIs [1] . Yes,you heard it right! Which is 10 ODIs per year, from 2005. [1] http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/player/47492.html
rkt.india Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Here's an amazing statistic. Dale Steyn has played a grand total of 63 ODIs [1] . Yes,you heard it right! Which is 10 ODIs per year, from 2005. [1] http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/player/47492.html and most of them must be played in last 2-3 years or so.
Sir_Afridi Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Steyn is green track bully. The series in UAE was his test where he failed miserably http://stats.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=5902;team=3;type=series
Old guy Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Steyn is green track bully. The series in UAE was his test where he failed miserably http://stats.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=5902;team=3;type=series and u need glasses :((
daryl1985 Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Steyn is green track bully. The series in UAE was his test where he failed miserably http://stats.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=5902;team=3;type=series LOL, he had just come back form injury and bowled on some of the flattest tracks ever.
Sir_Afridi Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 LOL' date=' he had just come back form injury and bowled on some of the flattest tracks ever.[/quote'] What is the excuse for averaging 36 in Sri Lanka?
cameron_black Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Steyn is green track bully. The series in UAE was his test where he failed miserably http://stats.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-south-africa-2010/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=5902;team=3;type=series green track bully eh? tracks in UAE were unbearably flat those days. look at the averages of your so called spinners, who were supposed to get more assistance than pacies. ajmal: 65.66 rehman: 48.55 hafeez: 55.5 gul: 85.5 not to mention morne morkel averaged 45 with the bat :cantstop:
cameron_black Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 What is the excuse for averaging 36 in Sri Lanka? he played just one series, and that was at the start of his career in 2006. plus he ran into that 637 run partnership between mahela and sangakkara.
CG Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 LOL' date=' he had just come back form injury and bowled on some of the flattest tracks ever.[/quote'] Still he was outbowled by morkel .When there is no swing steyn struggles particularly to lefthanders he averages around 30 against them.
Old guy Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Still he was outbowled by morkel .When there is no swing steyn struggles particularly to lefthanders he averages around 30 against them. and? most of hte bowlers today average 30 to both left and right handers wht does it proves ?
CG Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 and? most of hte bowlers today average 30 to both left and right handers wht does it proves ? they do not play in sa conditions mostly and are not regarded so highly.
Old guy Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 they do not play in sa conditions mostly and are not regarded so highly. they do play in australia,england ,india too where steyn has done gr8 job anyway i dont think we should even be discussing abt this :cantstop:
CG Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 they do play in australia,england ,india too where steyn has done gr8 job anyway i dont think we should even be discussing abt this :cantstop: Pitches in sa are far for bowler friendly than australia or eng .he averages 22 in sa in many matches to 29 in eng,26 in aus.Pitches do play a part.if you play day in day out on flat picthes in sc it will surely affect players,thats why akram was regarded so highly.
Old guy Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Pitches in sa are far for bowler friendly than australia or eng .he averages 22 in sa in many matches to 29 in eng' date='26 in aus.Pitches do play a part.if you play day in day out on flat picthes in sc it will surely affect players,thats why akram was regarded so highly.[/quote'] see akram's record away form home then :hatsoff:
Crookbond Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Still he was outbowled by morkel .When there is no swing steyn struggles particularly to lefthanders he averages around 30 against them. He also particularly doesn't do well against right hand batsmen who have a low grip, play spin well, and stand up two paces outside the crease. :hatsoff:
Old guy Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 He also particularly doesn't do well against right hand batsmen who have a low grip' date=' play spin well, and stand up two paces outside the crease. :hatsoff:[/quote'] :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
CG Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 He also particularly doesn't do well against right hand batsmen who have a low grip' date=' play spin well, and stand up two paces outside the crease. :hatsoff:[/quote'] :blink: Do you try to be funny every time.
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