kabira Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 All you need is three good days. Q/F, S/F and Final. Those who will have Newzealand in QF will be lucky team. Anyone can win this world cup. Aus, Eng, India, SA, SL are equally favorite...NZL, Windies, Pakistan are just below them...
Ram Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Our WC campaign officially begins when the Quarter-finals begin. Everything else before that is pretty irrelevant.
saneindian Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Our WC campaign officially begins when the Quarter-finals begin. Everything else before that is pretty irrelevant. Naah. A similar attitude saw us getting knocked out in the last WC. We need to give BD a good thrashing in the opening game and start our campaign well. From then it will be a smooth journey.
daryl1985 Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 All you need is three good days. Q/F, S/F and Final. Those who will have Newzealand in QF will be lucky team. Anyone can win this world cup. Aus, Eng, India, SA, SL are equally favorite...NZL, Windies, Pakistan are just below them... I genuinely do not believe South Africa will win this tournament. They have a team capable of doing so but they always choke at some point. I have always maintained that that Aus, SL, ENG or India will do it. However, recently i have had a bad feeling that Pakistan could somehow come into contention. The worries for India are: SRT and Sehwag's injuries. We need these guys fit, i'm more worried about Sehwag because he seems to have persistent shoulder problems and i think he may be out for a few month's after this tournament. I have a feeling that he is playing through the pain barrier and is nowhere near 100%. Sehwag's bowling could have been useful for this tournament but i think it is very unlikely that he will bowl. Yuvraj Singh and Raina - I'm worried that Raina's struggles against the short ball in South Africa will affect his confidence and he may not be in top form for the world cup. I'm also worried about his bowling as i am unconvinced by it but Dhoni also throws him the ball. Yuvraj Singh's batting form is a huge worry and i genuinely believe his ability with the ball is keeping him in the side. If he continues to be average with the bat we may struggle and we are relying on him to keep it tight with the ball. If SRT and Sehwag are fully fit (or close to being fully fit in Sehwag's case) and Yuvraj Singh finds form with bat and ball i am convinced India will win.
Ramzz Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 India being tagged as favorites is not good. We do well when we are rated as the underdogs! 1983 ODI WC and 2007 t20 WC are good examples.
Ram Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Naah. A similar attitude saw us getting knocked out in the last WC. We need to give BD a good thrashing in the opening game and start our campaign well. From then it will be a smooth journey. With the matches being played on some of the flattest tracks you will ever see in your lifetime, form/momentum is completely marginalized, come the knock out stages. It will be a straight shoot-out between the two batting units of the day. Whoever comes out on tops, will live to fight another day. It will be a bit like the 96 QF between West Indies and South Africa. The Saffies bull-dozed the opposition in the league phases, winning all of their 5 matches. But they encountered a force of nature called Brian Charles Lara and that, as they say, was that for them.
hari504504 Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I don't think there are any clear favorites... Aus,India,SA,SL,England have equal chance of lifting the trophy... and the Pak team is a dangerous dangerous underdog who can come out of nowhere.. they seem to be peaking at about the right time.. and it would get really interesting if Aamer escapes the ICC
saneindian Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 With the matches being played on some of the flattest tracks you will ever see in your lifetime' date=' form/momentum is completely marginalized, come the knock out stages. It will be a straight shoot-out between the two batting units of the day. Whoever comes out on tops, will live to fight another day. It will be a bit like the 96 QF between West Indies and South Africa. The Saffies bull-dozed the opposition in the league phases, winning all of their 5 matches. But they encountered a force of nature called Brian Charles Lara and that, as they say, was that for them.[/quote'] Delhi, Mohali, Kolkata, Mumbai, Bangalore etc are not out and out flat pattas. The two flat pattas are Nagpur and Ahmedabad and to an extent Chennai as well. But with the ICC overseing the pitch preparation, I will not be surprised to see better balanced wickets during the WC. Remember the ICC champions trophy in 2006 held in India? That was a bowler's tournament and not one match was played on a flat patta! Yes that was at the beginning of our domestic season and this one is at the *** end, yet because Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai etc will see matches being played on newly laid pitches, never rule out a very slow wicket or a wicket where the ball doesnt bounce much!! On that WI-SA QF, well Donald missing from that match was a huge blow to SA and they were kind of resigned to fate post that blow.
Ram Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Delhi, Mohali, Kolkata, Mumbai, Bangalore etc are not out and out flat pattas. The two flat pattas are Nagpur and Ahmedabad and to an extent Chennai as well. But with the ICC overseing the pitch preparation, I will not be surprised to see better balanced wickets during the WC. Remember the ICC champions trophy in 2006 held in India? That was a bowler's tournament and not one match was played on a flat patta! Yes that was at the beginning of our domestic season and this one is at the *** end, yet because Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai etc will see matches being played on newly laid pitches, never rule out a very slow wicket or a wicket where the ball doesnt bounce much!! On that WI-SA QF, well Donald missing from that match was a huge blow to SA and they were kind of resigned to fate post that blow. All we have to focus on are the venues for our QF, SF and final matches (if we make it thus far). Btw, the Champions trophy in 2006 was played during the winter. That is the only time during the year when the conditions favor the bowlers because a)there’s the dew factor that helps the ball swing under lights. And b) because the South West Monsoon ends in Aug-September, the curators would not have had enough time to prepare the pitches well. So sometimes, you do get under-cooked pitches. You saw that happening in the recent ODI series we played against New Zealand, late last year as well. But the WC is being played right about the onset of Summer. The dew factor wont be as pronounced, plus the curators would have had a solid 5-6 months of rain-free spell to prepare the pitches.
saneindian Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 All we have to focus on are the venues for our QF, SF and final matches (if we make it thus far). Btw, the Champions trophy in 2006 was played during the winter. That is the only time during the year when the conditions favor the bowlers because a)there’s the dew factor that helps the ball swing under lights. And b) because the South West Monsoon ends in Aug-September, the curators would not have had enough time to prepare the pitches well. So sometimes, you do get under-cooked pitches. But the WC is being played right about the onset of Summer. The dew factor wont be as pronounced, plus the curators would have had a solid 5-6 months of rain-free spell to prepare the pitches. Actualy with most of the matches in March, dew could be a factor in some places especially Mohali, Delhi, Kolkata etc. I hope the ICC is intelligent enough to have the matches start at 1.30 IST and not 2.30 IST so that dew does not have a major impact on the outcome of games. On the bolded part, Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata, Chennai have hardly seen a match being played on the freshly relaid tracks and the tracks could be quite tricky.
Ram Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Actualy with most of the matches in March, dew could be a factor in some places especially Mohali, Delhi, Kolkata etc. I hope the ICC is intelligent enough to have the matches start at 1.30 IST and not 2.30 IST so that dew does not have a major impact on the outcome of games. On the bolded part, Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkata, Chennai have hardly seen a match being played on the freshly relaid tracks and the tracks could be quite tricky. It could well be that we play just ONE of the possible 3 knock-out games, in India. If you look at the way the groups are structured, our QF, in all likelihood, is going to be in Sher-e-Bangla stadium in Dhaka of the Premadasa stadium in Colombo. The only way for us to play our QF at home is we finish 3rd in our group. Though that is unlikely, it is possible, with England and South Africa in our groups. So the pitches we need to focus on are a)Sardar Patel Stadium, in Motera (Possible QF), b)Mohali (possible SF) and c)Wankhade (final) And check this out, last February, when India played South Africa at the Motera, the Saffie batsmen pummeled our bowling to score 365 runs for the loss of just 2 wickets. So it maybe that some of our pitches have been relaid and may favor the bowler, but we’re not likely to encounter any of them during our knock-outs.
saneindian Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 It could well be that we play just ONE of the possible 3 knock-out games, in India. If you look at the way the groups are structured, our QF, in all likelihood, is going to be in Sher-e-Bangla stadium in Dhaka of the Premadasa stadium in Colombo. The only way for us to play our QF at home is we finish 3rd in our group. Though that is unlikely, it is possible, with England and South Africa in our groups. So the pitches we need to focus on are a)Sardar Patel Stadium, in Motera (Possible QF), b)Mohali (possible SF) and c)Wankhade (final) And check this out, last February, when India played South Africa at the Motera, the Saffie batsmen pummeled our bowling to score 365 runs for the loss of just 2 wickets. So it maybe that some of our pitches have been relaid and may favor the bowler, but we’re not likely to encounter any of them during our knock-outs. Naah ICC has said that host teams will get to play their knockout matches at home. So India will play its QF at Ahmedabad. On that SA match, well the series was already won and Indian bowlers were Tyagi, Mithun , Sreesanth, Jadeja etc. We gave away 77 runs in last 5 overs! In fact but for Dhoni it was a India B team. But yes Ahmedabad is likely to have a flat patta unless Andy Atkinson does something dramatic.
Ram Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Naah ICC has said that host teams will get to play their knockout matches at home. So India will play its QF at Ahmedabad. On that SA match, well the series was already won and Indian bowlers were Tyagi, Mithun , Sreesanth, Jadeja etc. We gave away 77 runs in last 5 overs! In fact but for Dhoni it was a India B team. But yes Ahmedabad is likely to have a flat patta unless Andy Atkinson does something dramatic. Huh? How is that even possible, when we have 3 joint hosts? Check this out; Thu Mar 24 09:00 GMT | 14:30 local 04:00 EST | 03:00 CST | 01:00 PST Quarter Final - TBC v TBC (A2 v B3) Sardar Patel Stadium, Motera, Ahmedabad N/A Fri Mar 25 08:30 GMT | 14:30 local 03:30 EST | 02:30 CST | 00:30 PST Quarter Final - TBC v TBC (A3 v B2) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur N/A So if we finish 2nd in our group and Sri Lanka 3rd in theirs, or vice versa, we will end up facing each other, either in Motera or Sher-e-Bangla.
saneindian Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Huh? How is that even possible, when we have 3 joint hosts? Check this out; Thu Mar 24 09:00 GMT | 14:30 local 04:00 EST | 03:00 CST | 01:00 PST Quarter Final - TBC v TBC (A2 v B3) Sardar Patel Stadium, Motera, Ahmedabad N/A Fri Mar 25 08:30 GMT | 14:30 local 03:30 EST | 02:30 CST | 00:30 PST Quarter Final - TBC v TBC (A3 v B2) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur N/A So if we finish 2nd in our group and Sri Lanka 3rd in theirs, or vice versa, we will end up facing each other, either in Motera or Sher-e-Bangla. ICC has said in cases of two hosts meeting in the knock out, the sides ranked higher (India, SL, BD in that order) will play the knock out match at home. So if its Ind-SL, QF will be Ahmedabad, SF will be Mohali. If its SL-BD QF/SF will be in Colombo. Read this story. Hosts to play World Cup knockouts at home http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/content/story/488670.html
Ram Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 ICC has said in cases of two hosts meeting in the knock out, the sides ranked higher (India, SL, BD in that order) will play the knock out match at home. So if its Ind-SL, QF will be Ahmedabad, SF will be Mohali. If its SL-BD QF/SF will be in Colombo. Read this story. Hosts to play World Cup knockouts at home http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/content/story/488670.html That is only when we’re ranked higher than Sri Lanka. I can easily see Sri Lanka topping their group.
saneindian Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 That is only when we’re ranked higher than Sri Lanka. I can easily see Sri Lanka topping their group. This is what the article says If, for example, India make it to the quarters, they will play their match in Ahmedabad (one of the four venues) even if they draw Sri Lanka because India were better placed better when the teams were seeded. With the final scheduled in India, it ensures they will play at home in whatever knockout matches they qualify for. Sri Lanka will play India away, but Bangladesh and other teams at home. Bangladesh will play away if they are to draw any other host nation in the quarter-finals, but will get a home game if they are playing any other team. Hope this helps.
Mariyam Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 No team has ever won the WC at home. Except Sri Lanka in 1996 ( but then again, all their knock out games were played in India except for the final which was in Pakistan). Are we jinxed? :nervous::nervous::nervous:
singhprakash72 Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I think it will need special efforts + substantial luck for India to win this WC...for that matter any of these 4 teams ..SA,SL,AUS and Eng...little better than T20..but all you need is a bad 10-15 overs in a match to lose. It is impossible to be consistent for 8-10 matches specially before knockout starts you may be down with injuries,fatigue. etc. Believe it or not Kenya did make Semis in WC 2003 were countries like SA, Pak, Eng were knocked out earlier !!!
jusarrived Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 We look the best team tbh , but with this format especially after KO its a bit of a lottery ..anything beyond semis , you need a bit of luck irrespective of how good a team you have .
Raghav_12 Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 With the matches being played on some of the flattest tracks you will ever see in your lifetime' date=' form/momentum is completely marginalized, come the knock out stages. It will be a straight shoot-out between the two batting units of the day. Whoever comes out on tops, will live to fight another day. It will be a bit like the 96 QF between West Indies and South Africa. The Saffies bull-dozed the opposition in the league phases, winning all of their 5 matches. [b']But they encountered a force of nature called Brian Charles Lara and that, as they say, was that for them. My post is on a different track but have to bring for the point mentioned in post above. Yesterday only, I saw highlights of that Lara innings of 111. SA couldn't have done much once they had run into red-hot Lara. When in flow, nobody compares with Lara.
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