Sachin's sixes!

[zen]

Not that I was trying to say that McCabe or anybody else was greater batsman than Bradman or equal. My whole point here was that in sports difference between two players get magnified when conditions are easier while when conditions are tougher and more competitive these kind of differences in numbers go away. And for the same reason it can not be said that Bradman is greater than Tendulkar just because he was far more ahead of his peers than what Sachin is.

What's the point of that^ post, when he already answered this below: 6. Suggesting an average of 57 and 43 are in the same league as suggesting Tendulkar and Ganguly are the same level of batsmen.

[zen]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/153023.html The moral of the story is that people got hurt because of a crappy pitch and a certain jujubi fast bowler going by the name of Michael Holding bowling a lot of short pitched stuff from round the wkt. There is no mention of Bodyline tactics in that report. The likes of Ambrose, Walsh , Michael Holding , Croft, Patterson, and Marshall over their career have inflicted many a injuries on batsmen with or without the assistance of a juicy/dodgy pitch or the no.of close-in fielders. So it is high time you stop getting excited about this test match.

So are you suggesting that the feared tactic of bodyline was never used again therefore no one has experienced such a challenge again Thank you!

[zen]

And whats wrong in calling SRT the greatest Batsman ever ? .

What's wrong is hijacking threads to make it a vs Bradman debate to cater to your fantasies :winky: And if he is the greatest then why spent so much time in trying to prove that?

[Ultimate_Game]

How the heck did this thread turn from discussing SRT's 6s in this world cup into SRT Vs Bradman??? For the record I think Bradman was the best ever then comes SRT followed by others.

[vvvslaxman]

On to the OP, Tendulkar was not playing sweep shot for the first 5 or 6 years if i am right. Reverse sweep i don't think he played for 7 or 8 years. Now he is armed with array of great shots. But one of his favorite shot used to be backfoot square drive with a dead straight bat. It has kinda vanished. Also he used to play that flick off the pads. He plays that now too. But he used to impart so much power usually it was like an accelerated flick. He can still play like that when required. But he stood out those days. Nowadays we have such a dynamic batting line up that any one of the top 7 can play an innings like that on their day. Only difference is Sachin still has more stamina to play a long ODI innings than any of the current players we have.

[pensionplan]

Not interested in this hypothetical business. Comeback when you make up your mind and I will tell you what it means. But given the no.of times that I have asked you this question and how evasive you have been .. tells its own story.

Really. Wow. No matter how hard you try and how many videos you present there was not even one convincing cricketing reason for me to buy into your theory of somehow things were handed to Bradman on a platter. On the other hand the one player who you claim to be the greatest ever batsman no questions asked is with a bunch of players that all average in the same vicinity while in Bradman's era there was not even one player in his zip code be it Tests or FC cricket. Show me one other metric in any other team sport that is so lopsided in one player's favor as is the case with Bradman and his 99 plus average. I mean all the theories and all are great to present but in the end they need to fall in place for people to buy into.

[b555]

Really. Wow. No matter how hard you try and how many videos you present there was not even one convincing cricketing reason for me to buy into your theory of somehow things were handed to Bradman on a platter. On the other hand the one player who you claim to be the greatest ever batsman no questions asked is with a bunch of players that all average in the same vicinity while in Bradman's era there was not even one player in his zip code be it Tests or FC cricket. Show me one other metric in any other team sport that is so lopsided in one player's favor as is the case with Bradman and his 99 plus average. I mean all the theories and all are great to present but in the end they need to fall in place for people to buy into.

while you take the averages which has no other player in the very vicinity of that particular batsman you are talking about , what if i take the 98* centuries in international cricket so far and the total odi+test runs ??? show me one other metric in cricket who is nearby these figures. its not about presenting teories for people to buy but to make insane brains sane.

[pensionplan]

while you take the averages which has no other player in the very vicinity of that particular batsman you are talking about , what if i take the 98* centuries in international cricket so far and the total odi+test runs ??? show me one other metric in cricket who is nearby these figures. its not about presenting teories for people to buy but to make insane brains sane.

oh really. I thought the entire 98 centuries were accounted for in the total number of runs scored (ODIs + Tests) and the average after taking those 98 centuries into account settled to below 50. No. Plus I for never said Tendulkar is not one of the top echelon batsman of all time. So what is the fuss all about. All I am contesting here are the methods of showing Bradman's 99 plus average as some kind of a chlid's play which I necessarily do not agree with and letting it be known. And being more of a Sachin fan than a Bradman fan nothing gives me more pleasure in cricket than Tendulkar go about his business and keep adding to his legend. That does not mean I overlook the other greats of cricket for what they are and acknowledge them for their accomplishments and place in history of the game than take there is Sachin and there is everyone else route that is very rampant here.

[zen]

oh really. I thought the entire 98 centuries were accounted for in the total number of runs scored (ODIs + Tests) and the average after taking those 98 centuries into account settled to below 50. No. Plus I for never said Tendulkar is not one of the top echelon batsman of all time. So what is the fuss all about. All I am contesting here are the methods of showing Bradman's 99 plus average as some kind of a chlid's play which I necessarily do not agree with and letting it be known. And being more of a Sachin fan than a Bradman fan nothing gives me more pleasure in cricket than Tendulkar go about his business and keep adding to his legend. That does not mean I overlook the other greats of cricket for what they are and acknowledge them for their accomplishments and place in history of the game than take there is Sachin and there is everyone else route that is very rampant here.

good post :nice:

[Guest BossBhai]

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[fineleg]

And being more of a Sachin fan than a Bradman fan nothing gives me more pleasure in cricket than Tendulkar go about his business and keep adding to his legend. That does not mean I overlook the other greats of cricket for what they are and acknowledge them for their accomplishments and place in history of the game

The above summarizes my points too. I know Boss Bhai is out digging numbers and old videos etc. Boss Bhai is a numbers person and a tireless debater too - I respect that, but personally I dont dig numbers as much as Bheem Bhai does, and neither can I debate endlessly. So, I will summarize saying: SRT is one of the top legends of the game, so is DGB. And so are a few other cricketers. I respect and admire them. I dont think we can ever rank legends across eras. I am not going to change my stance on this, and I dont think I can change BB's stance either. I liked the discussion - nothing against it, but I cannot endlessly debate the same points. As a fan, I am a bigger fan of Tendulkar than of Bradman - because Tendulkar is an Indian player, and he is one that I have watched and admired. But that does not mean I decrease the legendary greatness of other team players or the older era players.

[KXIP001]

i remember this match and now feel excited watching this clip again

[vpg0002]

Sachin is a treat to watch and an encyclopedia of batting. Hope he finishes his career on a very very high note (not that he is already there now). Maybe he will still be playing for India in 2015 World Cup. ;-) Thanks for sharing this vintage innings.