Duncan Fletcher to be the new Indian Coach

[WC2011INDIA]

My biggest problem with Fletcher is his fetish for 90mph bowling. He is going to have a hard time adjusting with our pace bowlers. He might even kick them all out, which would create too much unnecessary drama. Oh and he is way too controlling. Hopefully, Dhoni will handle him well.

[Cricket Tragic]

he did not find that in eng either

:facepalm:

[koksmayu]

Another man expecting Fletcher to succeed in his India stint was England under-19 coach Tim Boon, who has worked alongside Fletcher between 2001 and 2005 with the England team. Boon says Fletcher will be "at his best" for India. Though Fletcher is 18 years older than India's outgoing coach Kirsten, Boon said age would not be a factor. "What you need to remember is that Gary Kirsten played under Duncan Fletcher. Duncan's experience will far outweigh issues of how old he is. He is strong and fit for his age, he will be involved in all the drills on the training ground, he is very a tough character." Fletcher had spend four years since leaving the England job, working in an independent coaching consultancy in Cape Town and Boon said, "He's had a rest in between his last international job. This gives you enough time to look back and reflect on your work. You are at your best stage as a coach, like John Wright is the same with New Zealand now. Duncan will be ready for the job." Boon said overall Fletcher was "methodical" and an excellent technical coach who did very well working one-on-one with players. "He is very good at identifying talent, which is how an Ashes team was put together in 2005." Boon said he found Fletcher the "best off the field captain" with whom team leaders could discuss tactics and the problems of various match situations. "It is his experience that Dhoni will tap into and be able to sit and talk through with him." As for the demands of coaching India, Boon said, "Fletcher is very resourceful and mentally very tough. He has an enormous amount of respect for cricketers in the sub-continent, particularly the Indians. He will look at the India job as a challenge he would want to have a go at, and a fantastic honour, it could be the final chapter in the story of his international coaching career."

[VRV Singh]

He is strong and fit for his age' date=' he will be involved in all the drills on the training ground[/quote'] :hmmm: looks like he's over-indulged since the England days, not sure about that..

[WC2011INDIA]

Another man expecting Fletcher to succeed in his India stint was England under-19 coach Tim Boon' date=' who has worked alongside Fletcher between 2001 and 2005 with the England team. Boon says Fletcher will be "at his best" for India. Though Fletcher is 18 years older than India's outgoing coach Kirsten, Boon said age would not be a factor. "What you need to remember is that Gary Kirsten played under Duncan Fletcher. Duncan's experience will far outweigh issues of how old he is. [b']He is strong and fit for his age, he will be involved in all the drills on the training ground, he is very a tough character." Fletcher had spend four years since leaving the England job, working in an independent coaching consultancy in Cape Town and Boon said, "He's had a rest in between his last international job. This gives you enough time to look back and reflect on your work. You are at your best stage as a coach, like John Wright is the same with New Zealand now. Duncan will be ready for the job." Boon said overall Fletcher was "methodical" and an excellent technical coach who did very well working one-on-one with players. "He is very good at identifying talent, which is how an Ashes team was put together in 2005." Boon said he found Fletcher the "best off the field captain" with whom team leaders could discuss tactics and the problems of various match situations. "It is his experience that Dhoni will tap into and be able to sit and talk through with him." As for the demands of coaching India, Boon said, "Fletcher is very resourceful and mentally very tough. He has an enormous amount of respect for cricketers in the sub-continent, particularly the Indians. He will look at the India job as a challenge he would want to have a go at, and a fantastic honour, it could be the final chapter in the story of his international coaching career."

Hopefully he goes on a high note but the bolded sentence scares me.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Duncan,Welcome to India...... Will reserve my judgement till the end of 2011. Heard he likes quick bowlers.....may be he will encourage our bowlers to bowl fast.....

[Sachin=GOD]

he was englands coach

Now thats news to all of us :cantstop:

[fineleg]

....may be he will encourage our bowlers to bowl fast.....

if they can :cantstop:

[ViruRulez]

His coaching experience is good but not sure if he is the right coach for the team. Would depend on how he can get along with the seniors and Indian work ethics. He would need to be flexible for sure in order to be successful as rigid coaches have never worked well for us. Hope we do not enter the Greg Chappel era again. His recent achievements have also not been that great though he has got several accolades in the past

[fineleg]

I read on BBC that "Fletcher does not suffer fools" - so the lazy bumpkins (such as daadaaji) in Team India better watch out. Up the fielding and fitness levels Munaf Patel, Nehra and co. :--D I like it. I like it if someone can taskmaster some of our lazy fielders :woot:

[Karan114]

Duncan Fletcher may get a deputy By Vijay Tagore | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) was sure that it would not make public the process of selecting the new coach. As an official put it, an open process would have made the Indian media as crazy as the English media is about the royal wedding! The BCCI mandarins haven’t forgotten the Graham Ford episode. “If we had not kept it a secret, we would have never been able to appoint a good coach,†said a top BCCI official, who was a key figure in the appointment of Duncan Fletcher as India’s new coach. DNA had, in its edition dated April 11, reported that the board would make a sudden announcement and that Fletcher was a likely candidate. The process had started a long time back and two senior members of the team — Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag — besides captain MS Dhoni were involved. Gary Kirsten, too, was consulted but not many people were involved in the discussions. BCCI president Shashank Manohar and secretary N Srinivasan were key negotiators with the Cape Town-based Zimbabwean. The board has stuck to its depoliticisation and non-interference policy and would give the new coach — and Dhoni — a free hand in running the team. Like Kirsten had Paddy Upton as his deputy, Fletcher, too, might be allowed to have his own deputy. And the indications are that Fletcher’s deputy will not be an Indian. “It is up to him. If he wants a deputy, he should come to us. We have Eric Simons as bowling coach,†the board official stated. There were suggestions at the working committee meeting here on Wednesday that Simons should be replaced by Venkatesh Prasad. In fact, Anil Kumble, Prasad’s colleague in KSCA set-up, made a strong pitch for his former India teammate. However, Jumbo’s recommendation did not cut ice with the BCCI’s top brass. It is believed that Simons has a done good job with Team India. Besides, Fletcher wants Simons to continue. Fletcher and Simons have known each other for a long time. Kumble was politely told that the new coach does not want an immediate ‘bowling change’. Meanwhile, Fletcher has got taste of what his new job would be like. An hour after his appointment was announced, he had hundreds calling him. In his own admission, his phone kept ringing the whole day. He told everyone politely that he would prefer a media conference rather than one-on-one interviews. He has also got a wind of things working with the BCCI, which has already asked him to stay away from the media. When DNA reached him five minutes after the announcement, the genial coach said the request should be rooted through the board. Pressed further, Fletcher admitted that he is looking forward to working with the Indian team. “I’m very happy and excited about it,†he said. “I will be coming to India soon.†Fletcher’s biggest strengths, it is said, are his deep analytical skills. He is very comfortable at coaching batsmen. Besides, he is a no-nonsense man who may be the right kind of coach for, say, an S Sreesanth. It is suggested that he does not put with any nonsense from the players, board, or even the media. His weakness is his age. Besides, he has been out of coaching for a long time. He quit the England job in 2007. His intransigence may not go down very well with some of the stars in India. He, however, has some idea about how to deal with the star-studded Indian team. In a recent article in an English daily, he wrote why Kirsten’s accommodating and friendly approach was sure to work as against Greg Chappell’s confrontational approach. But it may not be that easy for Fletcher to replicate success of Kirsten with the Indian team. When he took over as the coach of England, they were the worst side in the world. He comes to India at a time when the team is the best. He may be in a no-win situation. http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report_duncan-fletcher-may-get-a-deputy_1536947

[msb1991]

Hates bowlers who can't bowl at a decent speed (late 130s to 140s min). Look at the bowlers he liked and picked (Jones' date=' Flintoff, Harmison and even Hoggard bowled at a decent speed then). Replaced them with Mahmood, Plunkett etc since they had speed :facepalm:[/quote'] Hoggard was never quick, but was seriously good. Fletcher won't be dropping Zaheer Khan for lack of pace, is a good analogy to use. It would be likely that he'll try to push the likes of Dinda, Yadav and Aaron, if given the chance, though. He may have no selection powers though, depends what the BCCI grant him.

[Cricket Tragic]

Hoggard was never quick' date=' but was seriously good. Fletcher won't be dropping Zaheer Khan for lack of pace, is a good analogy to use. It would be likely that he'll try to push the likes of Dinda, Yadav and Aaron, if given the chance, though. He may have no selection powers though, depends what the BCCI grant him.[/quote'] If you look at Hoggard in the 2004 tour of WI (where Harmi took 7/12 and the Hoggard got a hattick) and then the Ashes, he was bowling at a pretty good speed. He wasn't quick like Jones and Flintoff but he wasn't bowling at 120 kph like our trundlers. Fletcher mentioned that he likes bowlers who bowl at a certain pace in interviews and also in his book (Behind the Shades). Yeah, different system. Coaches in England run the show basically. He definitely won't have such powers in India.

[jhakati]

pathetic choice, it goes downhill from here...

[Alchemist]

Initially I was a little worried over his selection, but then found this article he wrote. This article was also published on this forum as a thread. His thoughts in this article exactly pin point the reason for India's success. This might be a good indication that he understands what things are required to be successful in India. Time will tell rest of the story. Strong leadership, on and off the field, at heart of India's success I first met Gary Kirsten when he was a student at the University of Cape Town. Even then he was a quiet and unassuming, but confident individual. I had just become the University cricket coach and Kirsten was struggling to get a game as the No9 batsman. One day I suggested that he should try opening because, while he was not that sound technically, he had a very strong character. I have seen lots of talented players who I knew were never going to make it, but when you have a man who is as strong mentally as Kirsten is, you cannot put a limit on how far they can go. Now he is the coach of India. He was always energetic and enthusiastic, which is why I thought he would make a good coach, even if the India job was a hell of a one to take on when he had so little experience. We went on to work together at Western Province for a long time, along with Eric Simons, who is now the India bowling coach. Another member of that UCT team, Paddy Upton, is the conditioning coach. He has a degree in psychology, so he works on the mental side as much as the physical one. It gives me a lot of pride that three players who I worked with so much have gone on to have such success as coaches. They are the unsung heroes behind a squad full of superstars, especially Kirsten. That is just how he wants it. It is in some people's nature to want to be in headlines, but Kirsten has always been shy of the media. That was part of why he is so well suited to the job. For a long time India lacked a hard edge. Before Kirsten they appointed Greg Chappell to try and give it to them. Chappell was a good coach in the wrong job. His Australian approach did not fit with the culture of the team or of the country. He was abrasive and always spoke his mind. So he rubbed people up the wrong way. Kirsten is a tough man, but he is also the kind who is quick to put an arm around your shoulder. He talks quietly to people and tries to motivate them in a positive way. That is why he has built up such good relationships with the Indian players. You hear them talking about him as though he were a friend more than a coach, which is very telling. Take Sachin Tendulkar. Chappell almost seemed to want to provoke Tendulkar into playing better, but a player like that does not need challenging. Like all great sportsmen, he drives himself. I know that Kirsten gets on very well with Tendulkar. They talk cricket a lot. Tendulkar is very forthcoming with his ideas, but does not try to dominate discussions. He will make a suggestion, but will support Kirsten whether he goes with it or not. That is a real mark of the man. I like the fact that Tendulkar tried the captaincy and decided it was not for him, but still contributes so much to the team on and off the field. He does it without too much ego. When he gives advice to MS Dhoni he is not demonstrative. He does not wave his arms around just to show the crowd that he is still making decisions, but just walks up and has a quiet word in the captain's ear. As in all things, you need a little luck to be a good coach and Kirsten is fortunate to have such good lieutenants in the team. The same goes for Dhoni. I have studied Dhoni closely over the years, and these days I am impressed with every single aspect of what he does. Technically, he is not a very good cricketer, but mentally he looks as though he knows how to work with the ability he has got. Just like Kirsten. When he arrived in the team he seemed to be a showman, always playing strange and spectacular shots. But now he is one of those players who can really adjust his style to the situation. He is prepared to grit it out and to give the glory to other batsmen while he just plays the ball around and tries to occupy the crease. If anything he could do with showing a little more of that old flair. As a captain he has the great gift of being proactive rather than reactive in his decision-making. You see that in his field settings and bowling changes. When decisions go wrong a proactive captain is always going to be more exposed than a reactive one, but Dhoni does not fear that. Look at the stick he took when he gave Ashish Nehra the final over instead of Harbhajan Singh in their defeat against South Africa. Afterwards, Dhoni explained his thinking, which was sound, and shrugged the criticism off. He is also a model of good body language on the field. Watch him when a catch is dropped. He does not mutter to himself or stare at the grass. He holds his head high and puts his hands on hips, almost as though he did not notice it happen. The message he is sending the players is "OK, let's move on and get on with it." Kirsten, Dhoni and Tendulkar. They are an excellent trio of leaders. If India win, they will owe an awful lot to all three. Here is the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/apr/02/india-world-cup-strong-leaders

[Ultimate_Game]

Terrible choice IMO. He's more in the Chappel mode than Wright or Kirsten's. Plus he is more of a has been and I can't figure out we went for a "retread" instead of going for someone who brings in a fresh view and infuses energy into the team.

[WC2011INDIA]

I just found out that the BCCI didn't even bother to get any input from former Indian captains and players while selecting the new coach for Team India. Gary Kirsten was selected upon Sunil Gavaskar's advice to the BCCI. Sigh.......I am not feeling it now.

[Number]

interesting' date='can you share more on his coaching philosophies?[/quote'] he is some-more than a good batting coach. He helped us to win a Ashes in 2005 in so many ways though one sticks out and that was how to boot Adam Gilchrist. He done certain we went turn a wicket true divided since he saw in Gilchrist’s technique that he struggled with balls outward off stump quite if a bowler got tighten to a stumps like Andrew Flintoff. He didn’t know either to play or leave and would only hook his bat out there. History shows Duncan was valid correct. He was also really good at environment fields and open to ideas from a players. http://www.livenewsindia.com/world-news/indias-new-coach-duncan-fletcher-will-be-great-foil-for-ms-dhoni/

[koksmayu]

Gavaskar, Kapil criticise Fletcher's appointment Sunil Gavaskar and Kapil Dev at a function celebrating the silver jubilee of the 1983 World Cup win, Bangalore, June 3, 2008 Sunil Gavaskar and Kapil Dev - Not fans of foreign coaches News : Duncan Fletcher named India coach Former India captains Sunil Gavaskar and Kapil Dev have criticised the appointment of Duncan Fletcher as the coach of the national team, saying the BCCI should have instead picked a former India player. "Someone like [Mohinder] Amarnath would have been a better choice for the simple reason that the core of the Indian team today is from the Hindi-speaking belt," Gavaskar told the NDTV news channel. "He would have got on brilliantly with this group as well as the seniors. It would have been a lot easier for Amarnath to understand and interact with the players. "Apart from that he has got a fabulous record of making comebacks, he knows what it is to be down and then come back up. There is a perception and a wrong one that an Indian [coach] can be influenced and that he will get involved in politics. You are presuming that he cannot be a strong person." Kapil said Robin Singh and Venkatesh Prasad, who were fielding and bowling coaches of the side for more than two years until October 2009, should have got the nod again. "Who is Duncan Fletcher?," Dev, who played against Fletcher in the 1983 World Cup, asked the Hindustan Times newspaper. "That happened almost 30 years ago. I don't remember much of him as a player. I would like to see Prasad and Robin as coaches of the Indian team. Not because they are Indians but because they did a great job at the T20 World Cup in 2007." The BCCI have not appointed an Indian coach since the era of John Wright, under whose watch India began to win consistently abroad and made the final of the 2003 World Cup. Greg Chappell, who took over from Wright, endured mixed results, including an ignominious first-round exit at the 2007 World Cup. Gary Kirsten, who was recommended by a panel that incidentally included Gavaskar, oversaw another turnaround, taking India to the top of the Test ranking table before ending his stint with a win in the 2011 World Cup.

[vaibhav_delhi]

:woot: Buddha mil gaya...