King Tendulkar Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 Whats happened to him? Watched odis and tests and this guy is bowling consisitently at 90 mph whatever spell or time of day. Also bowling accurate as well. Used to be a medium pacer, now has serious pace. Top phaaaast bowler now! He will be real threat when we tour
saneindian Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 As he himself said, lot of work in the gym and some work on his bowling technique with Otis Gibson is helping him a lot. He always had that ovely outswinger but did not have the control earlier. Now seems to have lot more control over his action and run up also looks quite smooth. IIRC he did troube us in a ODI back in 2009 and then again in the WC. A much improved bowler and definitely one to watch out for when we tour.
cowboysfan Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 I would like to see taylor,rampaul,edwards and roach bowling together against us on a quick pitch,would make for a great test match.
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 I would like to see taylor' date='rampaul,edwards and roach bowling together against us on a quick pitch,would make for a great test match.[/quote'] dua karo aisa na ho...last time we faced Fidel Edwards in a test in WI, we could just draw that test and in a T20 in England, we could not take him on..ab 4-4 90 mph+ bowlers hain. Vo to acha hua tha, he got injured after that test and then we won the next test without him in the team.
Fontaine Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 Rampaul was bowling at around 85/86 for most of the test match.
Ultimate_Game Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 Rampaul has definitely improved a lot since the time he was in WI team earlier. He's much more consistent with his line and length and has added some pace as well. Good for him and WI
Karan114 Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 I would like to see taylor' date='rampaul,edwards and roach bowling together against us on a quick pitch,would make for a great test match.[/quote'] Yeah, that would be fun. Of course, will never happen with Sammy taking up a spot
ravishingravi Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 I would like to see taylor' date='rampaul,edwards and roach bowling together against us on a quick pitch,would make for a great test match.[/quote'] Raina cant wait
kabira Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 any highlights of 1st Test match btween Pakis and windies
Karan114 Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 any highlights of 1st Test match btween Pakis and windies http://www.criconline.tv/day-4-pakistan-vs-west-indies-1st-test/
Ramzz Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 dua karo aisa na ho...last time we faced Fidel Edwards in a test in WI' date=' we could just draw that test and in a T20 in England, we could not take him on..ab 4-4 90 mph+ bowlers hain. Vo to acha hua tha, he got injured after that test and then we won the next test without him in the team.[/quote'] Why not? We are number 1...faced Steyn and Morkel on South African wickets. I think we will be fine. If the wickets are quick...good for our bowlers. Our batsmen will neutralize the pitch to an extent.
Serani Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 Rampaul was apparently very quick in the U15, U19 days but got a bit fat after age group cricket and his pace dropped, now he is starting to finally live up to his potential.
cowboysfan Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 dua karo aisa na ho...last time we faced Fidel Edwards in a test in WI' date=' we could just draw that test and in a T20 in England, we could not take him on..ab 4-4 90 mph+ bowlers hain. Vo to acha hua tha, he got injured after that test and then we won the next test without him in the team.[/quote'] Minnow bashing is no fun,they need a home advantage to make it interesting.
express bowling Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 I have not watched Rampaul bowl all the time but whenever I watched he was more 85 to 87 mph or 137 to 140k. Did not really look like consistent 90mph. Even Taylor in India was bowling mostly in the high 130k with occational 145k or 90mph, that too in not all the matches. The most common deliveries I have seen Roach bowl have been 88 and 89mph or 142 and 143kph. Most of the world has the habit of choosing the fastest pace of bowlers from countries known for pace and compare that with the average or at times even lowest pace among the faster deliveries of bowlers from countries not known for pace like India.
rkt.india Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 I have not watched Rampaul bowl all the time but whenever I watched he was more 85 to 87 mph or 137 to 140k. Did not really look like consistent 90mph. Even Taylor in India was bowling mostly in the high 130k with occational 145k or 90mph, that too in not all the matches. The most common deliveries I have seen Roach bowl have been 88 and 89mph or 142 and 143kph. Most of the world has the habit of choosing the fastest pace of bowlers from countries known for pace and compare that with the average or at times even lowest pace among the faster deliveries of bowlers from countries not known for pace like India. An average pace of 140-142(88 mph)ks pretty good if one can bowl in right areas. India do not have a single bowler in the national team who can do that. Even we do not have anyone who can average 85-87 consistently. Ishant is the closest to do that in tests.
express bowling Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 An average pace of 140-142(88 mph)ks pretty good if one can bowl in right areas. India do not have a single bowler in the national team who can do that. Even we do not have anyone who can average 85-87 consistently. Ishant is the closest to do that in tests. I agree completely that an average pace of 140-142 kph can be very good in tests if bowlers are bowling in the right areas. My point is that the difference in pace between the Indian attack and the good foreign attacks is thought to be much more than the actual difference. Very few bowlers can actually average 90mph. This time around Ishant might bowl around 85 to 87mph in tests if he gets his rhythm right.
rkt.india Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 I agree completely that an average pace of 140-142 kph can be very good in tests if bowlers are bowling in the right areas. My point is that the difference in pace between the Indian attack and the good foreign attacks is thought to be much more than the actual difference. Very few bowlers can actually average 90mph. This time around Ishant might bowl around 85 to 87mph in tests if he gets his rhythm right. Yaar, there is still a lot of difference between our and Ozzie, SA, or WI bowlers pace...They average around 88 mph and we average around 83 mph that is minimum 5 mph of a difference in average pace and while our bowlers bowled the fastest delivery around 140k on the last SA tour. Steyn and Morkel went up to 152K, especially Morkel was around 145 KPH consistently and troubled our batsmen a lot with bounce and pace.
express bowling Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 Yaar' date=' there is still a lot of difference between our and Ozzie, SA, or WI bowlers pace...They average around 88 mph and we average around 83 mph that is minimum 5 mph of a difference in average pace and while our bowlers bowled the fastest delivery around 140k on the last SA tour. Steyn and Morkel went up to 152K, especially Morkel was around 145 KPH consistently and troubled our batsmen a lot with bounce and pace.[/quote'] I don't disagree that there is a difference in speeds but an actual difference of 5 mph or so is made out to be a 10 to 15 mph difference by some commentators and fans who compare the fastest balls bowled by Steyn etc. with a below average delivery of a Zaheer Khan. I am only pointing out that part. In the last SAF tour the Indian bowlers were at their slowest in a long long time. Zaheer and Sreesanth were bowling some spells between 125k to 132k. Both these seamers rarely go down below the 130k to 137k bracket in all the years that i have seen them. Maybe they were taking extra precaution before the world cup to maintain their fitness.
Cricket Tragic Posted May 17, 2011 Posted May 17, 2011 Minnow bashing is no fun' date='they need a home advantage to make it interesting.[/quote'] I agree. I want some phhasst wickets and Taylor, Edwards, Rampaul and Roach fit. With a test in Jamaica and Barbados, it might be possible. Watching our batsmen bashing runs on flat wickets against WI would be no fun. Let's have a contest.
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