General_Public Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 Seen a lot of this here too. Many owners plainly refuse to rent out flats to Bachelors because of the so called "loud music and partying".
Raghav_12 Posted June 6, 2011 Posted June 6, 2011 This is somehow common in many societies. But instead of bachelor's not being allowed, societies are hesitant in renting of flats to group of bachelors. In IT centers like B'lore, Pune, Hyd, it is common that some 4-6 guys would rent out a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment. And though you can't paint everybody from same brush, I would say more often than not these kind of groups create problems in residential societies. Societies respond by putting blanket bans on these bachelors. If a guy, single or married, rents a flat and lives by himself - of course friends visiting often- societies don't have a problem.
Mariyam Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I won't name the place where I stay but it was new apartments when I moved in a year back. The owner never had any issues with either of my roomies. But suddenly now the so called society decided to kick all the bachelors out of the apartments. I liked the place and it has been good for me. The owner says he is helpless and I don't seem to have much of a choice but to leave. But it makes me wonder, is it legal to kick out tenants just because they are single? Maybe someone like Mariyam could point out the renting laws and stuff. You have to be more specific. What are your terms of agreement with the owner? How do you pay him? In which part of India do you reside? Hyderabad? Did you sign and register a leave and license agreement, the duration for which is 11 months? If you did, the agreement cannot be registered without the stamp of approval from the chairman of a housing society ( if there is a registered society). With a registered agreement it is assumed that the society doesn't have any problems. In such a case, unless there is a criminal act from your/ your room mates end, no one can evict you. You can laugh at the owner, tell him that you are looking for flats. In reality start your search and leave by the time the agreement expires. Your owner will not renew the agreement. In such an agreement, you generally leave the owner with a deposit and agree on a monthly rent. If you do not have a registered leave and license agreement, then you are at the mercy of the owner. How is your payment to him? Have you paid him an advance and are you yet asked to leave? On a pro-rata basis is he refunding your money? Your options are simple. If you have a l&l agreement, stay put. If you don't then find another place and move out. And make sure to sign a l&l agreement with the next owner. It'll help you, though it might be a tad bit more expensive. A better option is to get married. :winky:
beetle Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I own a house in NCR.The society had a no Singles rule earlier but now apparently singles are fine but no opposite sex singles living together .Now the biggest no-no is tenants with dogs .According to the society members...the tenants are mostly working couples who don't care if their dogs poop all over the place because they hardly have time to walk around the society .Besides they leave the dogs alone in the house and a lot of them bark the whole day.
Mariyam Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I own a house in NCR.The society had a no Singles rule earlier but now apparently singles are fine but no opposite sex singles living together .Now the biggest no-no is tenants with dogs .According to the society members...the tenants are mostly working couples who don't care if their dogs poop all over the place because they hardly have time to walk around the society .Besides they leave the dogs alone in the house and a lot of them bark the whole day. Pyaar ke dushman. I find this stance very hypocritical. Most live in couples, are less likely to disturb the tranquility of a society than a bunch of bachelors.
beetle Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Pyaar ke dushman. I find this stance very hypocritical. Most live in couples, are less likely to disturb the tranquility of a society than a bunch of bachelors. Agree...I would rather live next to a loving live in couple than a family with saas bahu living together with their problems and drama.
akshayxyz Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 @ Mariyam Is L&L different from normal rental agreement?
Mariyam Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 @ Mariyam Is L&L different from normal rental agreement? There is a lease agreement for a long term ( generally 3years +) letting out of premises. Without going into the history and reasons behind it, the Lease agreement is more or less defunct. Only rarely do people let residential premises on lease. Mostly it is commercial property that is leased out. WRT to residential property, there is no other agreement but a L&L which is for a max of 11 months (in Maharashtra). Of course, many a times, when the owner is aware and the tenant unaware about the benefits of the L&L, there is no L&L agreement signed. The owner has a verbal 'agreement' or a token agreement on a society letter head. But unless it is registered as the L&L agreement, it doesn't hold much weight. I suspect that might be the case with Nikred. :((
Guest Gunner Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Agree...I would rather live next to a loving live in couple than a family with saas bahu living together with their problems and drama. In bangalore, opposite to my apartment a live in couple was residing. They were very very nice people. Plus I was so jealous of the guy since the girl was an awesome cook, I mean like super duper awesome. :(( :(( And considering my single life even moarrr :(( :((
punjabi_khota Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 A better option is to get married. :winky: If you can't beat them , join them :hehe:
nikred Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 There is a lease agreement for a long term ( generally 3years +) letting out of premises. Without going into the history and reasons behind it, the Lease agreement is more or less defunct. Only rarely do people let residential premises on lease. Mostly it is commercial property that is leased out. WRT to residential property, there is no other agreement but a L&L which is for a max of 11 months (in Maharashtra). Of course, many a times, when the owner is aware and the tenant unaware about the benefits of the L&L, there is no L&L agreement signed. The owner has a verbal 'agreement' or a token agreement on a society letter head. But unless it is registered as the L&L agreement, it doesn't hold much weight. I suspect that might be the case with Nikred. :(( holy cr@p. I had no clue about L&L. :ohmy: I am currently residing in Pune, so what you said is very much applicable to me. Funny that none of my acquaintances ever mentioned about L&L. :(( But thanks for this useful info. Coming to marriage, right now I am seeing the advantages of marrying a lawyer. :rose:
Zelig Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Coming to marriage' date=' right now I am seeing the advantages of marrying a lawyer. :rose:[/quote'] I knew somethin' like this would happen :proud: 'yam - Beware! Golts charge lotsa dowry :((
nikred Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 I knew somethin' like this would happen :proud: 'yam - Beware! Golts charge lotsa dowry :(( Stop e-stalking me. :mad: I answer is always NO. :wilted_rose:
beetle Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 I can totally understand why the owner is unwilling to take a stand for his tenant nikred in this case.He is not his last tenant and if he doesn't follow society rules,he is unlikely to get society help if he ever gets "problem" tenant .
Zelig Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Stop e-stalking me. :mad: I answer is always NO. :wilted_rose:
Mariyam Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 If you can't beat them ' date=' join them :hehe:[/quote'] On a related note, I think that people should get married by the age of 26. Latest by 28. I've reached these numbers as a result of my observations and immaculate calculations taking into account many factors like health, family background, inflation, India's WC win, price of petrol, urban stupidity etc Welcome. Glad I could be of some help. PS: I don't know about other lawyers, but fans of retarded minnow teams like CSK and Deccan are a strict no no for me. :icflove:
Holysmoke Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 On a related note, I think that people should get married by the age of 26. Latest by 28. I've reached these numbers as a result of my observations and immaculate calculations taking into account many factors like health, family background, inflation, India's WC win, price of petrol, urban stupidity etc Go on.
nikred Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 Welcome. Glad I could be of some help. PS: I don't know about other lawyers, but fans of retarded minnow teams like CSK and Deccan are a strict no no for me. :icflove: :wilted_rose:
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