NareshK Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Lets not get into Padosi mode and accuse WICB of a conspiracy. This might simply be a human error It didnt look like a human error to me. The replay took some time to be shown during which the producer had taken some previous footage of Edwards bowling a legal delivery and that too where he landed well behind the crease and sent that to the third umpire. Obvious cheating.
Karan114 Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 It didnt look like a human error to me. The replay took some time to be shown during which the producer had taken some previous footage of Edwards bowling a legal delivery and that too where he landed well behind the crease and sent that to the third umpire. Obvious cheating. I think in this case it definitely seems deliberate. It never takes that long to get a replay of no-balls. If it was an unusual angle then one could give the benefit of the doubt but not in this.
jaggadaku Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 I had my doubts earlier, they took ages to show the replay and the replay they showed wasn't even close one, Edwards foot was way inside the crease
jaggadaku Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 In a way..serves M right for chickening out to UDRS :headshake: 22 ji it actually makes a stronger case against UDRS when you have home broadcasters cheating to favour their team
phaedrus Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 That's a good point' date=' the batsman can legitimately argue that his choice of shot was motivated by the umpire's call.[/quote'] great point. in tennis the benefit is given to the player.
don_corleone840 Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 they should let dhoni bat twice in second innings.
The Outsider Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 they should let dhoni bat twice in second innings. Not that it will make any difference to his score. Funny to see Paki style conspiracy theories being conjured - also, the umpire did not signal a no ball. He just asked the third umpire for it because he wasn't sure.
cowboysfan Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 the umpiring has been shocking this series,this incident is inexcusable.
jaggadaku Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 Not that it will make any difference to his score. Funny to see Paki style conspiracy theories being conjured - also, the umpire did not signal a no ball. He just asked the third umpire for it because he wasn't sure. He actually did call it no ball and checked it just to make sure probabaly because wicket had fallen on that delivery
The Outsider Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 He actually did call it no ball and checked it just to make sure probabaly because wicket had fallen on that delivery No he didn't - can you show me a video? An umpire is not allowed to check on a no ball after it has been called for the reason given above already that a batsman's shot selection might have depended on the call.
ganeshran Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 And we thought padosis were crazy while talking about the conspiracy by IT companies in Bengaluru to give Sachin not out in the SF Stuff like this happens - doesnt have to be a kanspiracy every time.
NareshK Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 No he didn't - can you show me a video? An umpire is not allowed to check on a no ball after it has been called for the reason given above already that a batsman's shot selection might have depended on the call. He called the no ball first and then referred the third umpire. I'll put up a video if I find one but your best bet is the highlights package on tv.
The Outsider Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 He called the no ball first and then referred the third umpire. I'll put up a video if I find one but your best bet is the highlights package on tv. I watched it live. After the catch the commentators said something like 'Oh it might be a no ball, Ian Gould is checking for it'. I did not see any footage with the umpire signaling a no ball and neither was there a no ball call from the umpire when the ball was delivered.
ganeshran Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 He did call the no ball before referring to the third umpire. But the call was not while the overstepping but after the catch was completed, so the indecision on the no ball did not impact the batsman's shot selection. X8DPOon1BOc&feature=player_profilepage#t=1030s watch at 17:05
ganeshran Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 The actual delivery looks like a marginal no ball to me.
The Outsider Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 ^ Yeah, okay he called it after the catch was completed and immediately went on to the third umpire to confirm.
NareshK Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 ^^That's no excuse. It was still a no ball and the wrong replay was shown.
phaedrus Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 honest mistake, not like dhoni looked like he was going to score much anyway. this still needs to be looked at closely since technology is getting more and more part of the decision making process. next time it can be in some big match, would hate something like this to affect the series againt england or australia for example
Vijay.Sharma Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 On that Gould decision' date=' is it fair/legal for a field umpire to first call a no ball when a bowler is in his delivery stride and then later ask the TV umpire to have a look? What if MSD had said I played this shot only after your No ball call, now you cannot change that.[/quote']That is a very valid point! Per me, they have only two options in such a case - declare the ball dead and void, or keep the no-ball call. I would pick the latter option.
ravishingravi Posted June 30, 2011 Posted June 30, 2011 My question is if there is no UDRS here, can umpire check for no ball.
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