PK or Sree??

[yoda]

Voted for Sree but looking at his fitness and form' date=' I'm not sure now tbh.[/quote'] ++

[Trichromatic]

Sree shouldn't be included unless someone performs horribly.

[CSK Fan]

We are not playing some club side in england that praveen kumar that would allow kumar to bowl at 115km/h even if he swings it big england have a good crop of batsman and pitches will not be like with so bounce and carry ,Sreesanth will be preffered over him unless their is some injury scare, Sreesanth or any bowler should never cut back on his pace, he is not exress but sharp 130-145km/h and only indian bowler i have seen who from beginning to date has maintained his pace,o n good days he can touch 90 mph,His main problem as eric simmons pointed out is his trying to ball 6 wicket takings balls per over ,i would expect sree,munaf,pk to play in the pratice match then take a call.

Thats why traditionaly its bowlers like Botham who succeed in England and bowlers like Broad and Lee who get carted around. you sure know your cricket

Yep Praveen can take the wickets of only club level bowlers. As I have pointed out again and again, good swing can be as effective as raw pace

[kabira]

now how many of you wish both were there and Ishant was dropped :haha::haha::hysterical::hysterical:

[Crookbond]

now how many of you wish both were there and Ishant was dropped :haha::haha::hysterical::hysterical:

Hello, Kabira speaking !

[gs]

now how many of you wish both were there and Ishant was dropped :haha::haha::hysterical::hysterical:

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[Ultimate_Game]

now how many of you wish both were there and Ishant was dropped :haha::haha::hysterical::hysterical:

Nope, we wish that Zaheer was still be fit and it was Harbhajan who tweaked his hamstring :--D

[Sid]

Nope' date=' we wish that Zaheer was still be fit and it was Harbhajan who tweaked his hamstring :--D[/quote'] U_G have you eaten your humble pie yet :--D

[Ultimate_Game]

U_G have you eaten your humble pie yet :--D

I am willing to eat any pie which managed to escape Zaheer over the last couple of months :winky:

[Sid]

I am willing to eat any pie which managed to escape Zaheer over the last couple of months :winky:

:acute: What about Sree over PK :winky:

[Ultimate_Game]

:acute: What about Sree over PK :winky:

Now it would be Sree over Zaheer for the 2nd Test and for the 3rd drop the worst performing pacer for Zaheer.

[zen]

R u Shreesanth :p

I am speaking more in terms of players who have the potential to turn a session in these conditions .... We already have some world class players in our line up, we need to compliment them with potential matchwinners vs those who come up with consistent but avg performance. And that avg performance doesn't make much of a differencve over cold performances of the potential game changers but a hot performance from the game changers could turn the tide in Ind's favor

[J P K]

I am speaking more in terms of players who have the potential to turn a session in these conditions .... We already have some world class players in our line up' date=' we need to compliment them with potential matchwinners vs those who come up with consistent but avg performance. And that avg performance doesn't make much of a differencve over cold performances of the potential game changers but a hot performance from the game changers could turn the tide in Ind's favor[/quote'] Jfdhfd fhdfjk fgbhfb hhhhh. Fdffv. Ghhhj. Ggggg gff0. Fhhhfhff Fhhh fhfh fhjfhhf fhhfh. Fssgg. Dfdh. Dggdg. Kldsgg. Dhgdgg U cannot understand ah ? Neither I can understand your posts :facepalm:

[Fontaine]

With the likes of Bhajji' date=' Mukund, [b']PK, etc in the opposition's like up, you can't blame this guys for being over excited

I am speaking more in terms of players who have the potential to turn a session in these conditions .... We already have some world class players in our line up' date=' we need to compliment them with potential matchwinners vs those who come up with consistent but avg performance. [b']And that avg performance doesn't make much of a differencve over cold performances of the potential game changers but a hot performance from the game changers could turn the tide in Ind's favor

How can someone be this ignorant? In four tests PK already has two matches where he's taken 6 wickets. Since 2007 Sreesanth has taken 6 or more wickets JUST ONCE in 17 tests. If PK is average then that makes Sreesanth a fat retard.

[zen]

How can someone be this ignorant? In four tests PK already has two matches where he's taken 6 wickets. Since 2007 Sreesanth has taken 6 or more wickets JUST ONCE in 17 tests. If PK is average then that makes Sreesanth a fat retard.

Picking up wkts in Wi against a helpless side doesn't make anyone a world class bowler. Neither Ishant became world class after his perfo in WI, nor will PK .... and who knows, Sree would have got a bagful of wkts too in WK And there was NOTHING exceptional in the 5-er that PK took at Lords. A good performance indeed but nothing that makes him a world class test bowler Sree is neither a world class bowler but he can be world class and exceptional at times. Something which the likes of PK can never hope to be with the kind of pace they have, along with inability to reverse or create an awkward bounce. Unless ofc you haven't seen Sree's performances against SA and SL, where he "won" the games for us, I don't see why this should be even discussed The stats you present must mean a lot to you , just like what getting 400 wkts means to Bhajji .... For me yours is another post by a Sree hater who hates him because of Sree's monkey like attitude and is obsessed with ER and thus likes to believe that even avg bowlers like PK are better than him because they can bowl an economical spell in tests and get lucky Thanks!

[Sachinism]

Sreesanth has brilliant seam position which equates to a lot of potential, but the guy is crap and loose in the head

[Fontaine]

Picking up wkts in Wi against a helpless side doesn't make anyone a world class bowler. Neither Ishant became world class after his perfo in WI, nor will PK .... and who knows, Sree would have got a bagful of wkts too in WK And there was NOTHING exceptional in the 5-er that PK took at Lords. A good performance indeed but nothing that makes him a world class test bowler Sree is neither a world class bowler but he can be world class and exceptional at times. Something which the likes of PK can never hope to be with the kind of pace they have, along with inability to reverse or create an awkward bounce. Unless ofc you haven't seen Sree's performances against SA and SL, where he "won" the games for us, I don't see why this should be even discussed The stats you present must mean a lot to you , just like what getting 400 wkts means to Bhajji .... For me yours is another post by a Sree hater who hates him because of Sree's monkey like attitude and is obsessed with ER and thus likes to believe that even avg bowlers like PK are better than him because they can bowl an economical spell in tests and get lucky Thanks!

This has nothing to do with anyone claiming PK to be a world class bowler. When presented with facts you suddenly changed you're argument from PK being an avg bowler to "he's not world class." No one is saying he's world class. I'm just pointing out your subjective hypocrisy where you claim Sree to be world class at times but his performances simply don't back it up consistently and at the same time when PK does perform and has picked up 6 wickets twice, in two completely different places against one of the best batting line ups in the world you dismiss it as well he doesn't have pace, got lucky, blah, blah, blah. Your nonsense wouldn't even be a discussion right now if Zaheer hadn't been injured as we'd have bowled out England for less than 300-340 each innings.

[zen]

This has nothing to do with anyone claiming PK to be a world class bowler. When presented with facts you suddenly changed you're argument from PK being an avg bowler to "he's not world class." No one is saying he's world class. I'm just pointing out your subjective hypocrisy where you claim Sree to be world class at times but his performances simply don't back it up consistently and at the same time when PK does perform and has picked up 6 wickets twice, in two completely different places against one of the best batting line ups in the world you dismiss it as well he doesn't have pace, got lucky, blah, blah, blah. Your nonsense wouldn't even be a discussion right now if Zaheer hadn't been injured as we'd have bowled out England for less than 300-340 each innings.

That's one of the points that w/o Zak, Ind cannot consistely hope to bowl sides out .... Which is why we need to play guys like Sree, who can atleast turn the game on their day (with or without Zak). Their bad performance are not that further away from decent performances by the likes of PK as in the end neither will help Ind win a session or put them into a dominating position against good test sides. On the other hand, a good performance by Sree = advantage Ind, a good perfo by avg test bowlers like PK = damage control at best If trundlers, who could swing the ball = good test bowlers then Irfan Pathan would still be playing. The problem with Sree haters is that in their blind hate, the imagine Sree to be going for runs and even a spell of 40 overs for 100 runs seems to them like a good deal and if that guy happens to take a 5-er on top, they feel as if Ind have found a decent option All trudlers have similar fate. Even the great Kapil Dev, when he lost his pace in the last few years of his career couldn't do much despite all his skills .... and people like you want to bet on PK because he happened to do well in a game against the helpless WI and had a lucky day at Lords :hysterical: ............................................................................................................................................0

[NareshK]

All trudlers have similar fate. Even the great Kapil Dev, when he lost his pace in the last few years of his career couldn't do much despite all his skills .... and people like you want to bet on PK because he happened to do well in a game against the helpless WI and had a lucky day at Lords :hysterical:

Just because you want Sree in the team, doesnt mean you need to discredit a really good performance by Praveen, one of India's own bowlers at a time when Zak was injured and Ishant and Bhajji were bowling poorly. If he hadnt run in throughout the innings and bowled 40 overs and picked 5 wickets, it would have been shameful for India on the field as they would have needed to get Raina or Sachin to bowl the rest of the overs and struggled to get half of England team out. His performance in the 1st innings was priceless irrespective of what you think of his bowling.

[zen]

Just because you want Sree in the team' date=' doesnt mean you need to discredit a really good performance by Praveen, one of India's own bowlers at a time when Zak was injured and Ishant and Bhajji were bowling poorly. If he hadnt run in throughout the innings and bowled 40 overs and picked 5 wickets, it would have been shameful for India on the field as they would have needed to get Raina or Sachin to bowl the rest of the overs and struggled to get half of England team out. His performance in the 1st innings was priceless irrespective of what you think of his bowling.[/quote'] To understand what's being implied, you need to ask yourself "do you think PK will run through a good test side and change a session for Ind?" If the answer is "No", there is no point in trying to suggest that PK should be chosen over someone like Sree, who can win games for India The problem with folks who pick out a few words is that they don't know if the performance has already been acknowledged to be good but not defining Let's do the exercise: Poster A: XYZ bowled well. His performance was good. But he doesn't look like a bowler who could change win a game for his team. Even on his best day, at best he would do damage control like pick up 5 for 100 or 6 for 150, etc. Let's not judge him from the lucky day he had at Lords Poster B: Picks out "lucky day he had at Lords" writes some crap, wanting to sound good outside of the school :haha: Poster C: He would even provide stats But the crux of the matter is usually missed. Which is why following something and understanding it are two different things. You folks going gaga over PK are laughable at best