ganeshran Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 WWE comment was very retarded on part of Butt. How can he compare a sport to piece of trashy entertainment like WWE :headshake:
Yoda-esque Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 He cannot help it..Hes from Lahore :dontknow:
Cricket Tragic Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 He cannot help it..Hes from Lahore :dontknow: :cantstop:
Khalpat Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 He cannot help it..Hes from Lahore :dontknow: :hysterical::hysterical: yah the place from were some of the most innovative logics have evolved.I Think its high time the term lahori logic should be added into dictionary.
ganeshran Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 He cannot help it..Hes from Lahore :dontknow: :cantstop: It would be really funny if it wasnt in such poor taste. Goes to show the respect for the game that Butt has. Its appalling that he made such a claim even if it was in jest.
maniac Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Looks like there is a small chance Butt may be let go scott-free http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/537813.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/537793.html What are the odds that this guy would be back captaining Pak Aamir who already confessed will get the ban...No sympathies for him but clearly he was influenced by Butt and it is unfair that the smallest piece in the puzzle gets the biggest punishment when the others are let go.
ganeshran Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I doubt he will get a prison sentence, but there is no way ICC is going to let him set foot on a cricket field again in an official match
maniac Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I doubt he will get a prison sentence' date=' but there is no way ICC is going to let him set foot on a cricket field again in an official match[/quote'] As long as this verdict does not affect ICC's ban that would stand true but if ICC gets influenced by the court's desicion(if in favour of Butt) and leave it to PCB,he is going to be back in the squad in a heartbeat.
gaurav92 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 LOL Just can't stop laughing ::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:hysterical:
BeautifulGame Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 As long as this verdict does not affect ICC's ban that would stand true but if ICC gets influenced by the court's desicion(if in favour of Butt) and leave it to PCB' date='he is going to be back in the squad in a heartbeat.[/quote'] ICC doesnt need to prove gulity beyond doubt like in court.They have different regulations and reasonable proofs are enough to ban someone for match fixing.So court decision wont affect ICC ban.
b555 Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Lets have a contest then thats not practically possible as they are more advanced than us in such matters
Blue Panther Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Mohammad Amir was no "naive and innocent teenager" but was probably involved in fixing events at cricket matches on his own, and without the involvement of his captain, Salman Butt, Southwark crown court heard on Tuesday. Ali Bajwa QC is defending Butt against charges of cheating at gambling and accepting corrupt payments, and he cast a stone at the Pakistan seamer, Amir. Bajwa said that on the night the cricketers' agent Mazhar Majeed received £140,000 from an undercover journalist posing as a match fixer, Amir had called for him to meet him in his hotel room. Once the allegations about fixing broke during the fourth Test between Pakistan and England at Lord's last year, Bajwa said, there were also Amir's warnings to friends not to contact him on his phone. "This isn't some naive and wholly innocent 19-year-old," he said. "Amir sent a text saying: 'Amir here. Don't call my phone. ICC police have taken my phone. Are you able to delete those calls you made to me? If you can, do it OK. Don't reply.'" Bajwa added: "We say it is wrong for the prosecution to say that Amir would not have been involved without pressure and influence from Salman Butt." Bajwa alleged that Amir's direct contact with telephone numbers in Pakistan was apparently evidence that the bowler, then ranked the third best in the world, was orchestrating his own fixes. "There is other evidence that Amir didn't need Majeed or Butt," Bajwa said. "We say, with regret about a young man starting to show his talent on the world stage, that he didn't need Majeed and Butt. There is a text message between Amir and a Pakistan number, going right back to 17 August, before Majeed and the journalist have discussed fixing, and nine days before the Lords' Test. Amir sends a text to Pakistan saying: 'How much and what needs to be done?' Later he sends another saying: 'Yes, but what needs to be done?' Then he says: 'This is going to be too much mate.' His final text to the number is: 'So in first 3, bowl however you want, and in the last 2, do 8 runs?'" Bajwa said the prosecution case against Butt hangs on Majeed's prediction to the journalist Mazher Mahmood of the now defunct News of the World that Asif would deliver a no-ball in the sixth ball of the 10th over of England's first innings at Lord's. Bajwa sought to undermine this as a prediction that could have been made by anyone even without inside knowledge of the Pakistan dressing room, signalling the pattern that Asif had bowled at least five overs in the first innings of the previous six Test matches. "On some occasions he has not just stopped at the 10th over, he has often bowled 16 or 20," Bajwa said. "Majeed didn't get that information from Salman Butt, and he didn't need to rely on Salman Butt for it to take place." Bajwa sought to explain the large amounts of cash found in Butt's hotel room by police. A sum of £2,500 was found to have derived from the £140,000 the journalist paid to Majeed between the third and fourth Tests. This, stressed Bajwa, had been explained by Butt as being a down payment on a £5,000 appearance fee for opening an ice-cream parlour in Tooting belonging to his agent, Majeed. During the trial the prosecution has highlighted other five-figure sums held in and out of envelopes within a locked attache case inside a suitcase in his room. Bajwa told the jury that it was illogical for the prosecution to claim these sums were the proceeds of crime. "If this is the product of fixing it makes no sense for Salman Butt to be carrying it around in his hotel room," Bajwa said. "Not only was Salman Butt so obliging not to keep it in a Swiss bank account or in his Clydesdale Bank account, but he would keep it in a case alongside his notebook supposedly detailing his fixing payments from Mazhar Majeed. "I'm sorry members of the jury but that is not the case. It is easy to say that is suspicious but the truth is somewhere else. Is the truth really that SB had, as he said from the start, received that money from the Capital Cricket bat contract that he had signed with, of all people, Mazhar Majeed? If it was suspicious, by the time he arrived at the police station he would have come up with some other explanation than that he had received it from Majeed." Bajwa said that of the almost 9,000 pieces of telephonic evidence assembled by the crown there were only two recorded calls and three texts that might have incriminated Butt, and that each can have an innocent explanation. The trial continues. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/oct/25/mohammad-amir-salman-butt-lawyer
Blue Panther Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 The prosecution in the alleged spot-fixing trial told a London court of 13 "facts" that it believes prove the guilt of defendants Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif. On day 14 and into the fourth week of the trial that has become one of the biggest controversies in cricket history, chief prosecutor Aftab Jafferjee QC addressed the jury at Southwark Crown Court with his closing speech, setting out its case in a nutshell. Butt and Asif face charges of conspiracy to cheat, and conspiracy to obtain and accept corrupt payments, following the Lord's test in August last year when they allegedly conspired with agent Mazhar Majeed, teenage fast bowler Mohammad Amir and other people unknown to bowl pre-determined no-balls. Butt and Asif deny the charges. "Shorn of cricketing terminology about mid-on and mid-off, shorn of jargon of attacking shots and defensive shots, this is a case of corruption through the vehicle of a sport," Jafferjee said. "It is nothing to do with being blinded with the technicalities of cricket. It is no different to a fraudster (manipulating) markets and saying 'you do not understand the market'. You the jury do understand deceit, greed and corrupt practice by some on the inside who are lucky enough, through talent, who have the opportunity to exploit it." Jafferjee, who was expected to complete his closing speech by mid-afternoon, faced the jury and went through the major factors with which he is spearheading his prosecution. "Fact number one: There is an old adage. There is no legitimate reason to bowl a no-ball. "Fact two: Since May 2010, Butt receives texts from Mazhar Majeed and participated in phone conversations with Majeed on matters of fixing. Leave aside whether this is a "joke" or a "tester". He participated in conversations about corruption. "Fact three: At 11pm on August 25 at the Copthorne Hotel, Majeed told (journalist Mazhar) Mahmood that on the following day these no-balls will happen. Mohammad Amir will bowl a no-ball on the first ball of the third over. He said Asif will bowl a no-ball on the sixth ball of the tenth over. He said Amir will bowl a further no-ball when he bowls round the wicket to the right-hander (Jonathan) Trott. He said the captain is in on it. "Fact four: Due to adverse weather conditions the third no-ball was unable to be bowled. "Fact five: Mohammad Amir was the least experienced and youngest one to bowl. "Fact six: On the first ball of the third over, Mohammad Amir delivers a massive no-ball. "Fact seven: Mohammad Asif is older and more experienced. "Fact eight: Mohammad Asif bowls a clear no-ball on the sixth ball of the tenth over. "Fact nine: (Statistician and prosecution witness David) Kendix has told us that there is nothing in the bowling history or pattern which would enable anyone to predict this would happen. "Fact ten: On August 26 at 22.11, Majeed told Mahmood that the remaining no-ball will take place on Mohammad Amir's third full over (the next day) on the third ball. "Fact 11: On August 27 Mohammad Amir is bowling with deadly accuracy and deadly control, the complete antipathies to bowing a no-ball. "Fact 12: Just before that glaring no-ball, Amir is in conversation with Butt. "Fact 13: Mohammad Amir bowls another no-ball. Jafferjee continued, looking at the jury: "These are facts. Ask yourself, against that plain background, who needs to lie in this case? Majeed? Mahmood? Or Butt and Asif? People who commit offences and who are caught and brought to trial have a choice. They can either plead guilty, and get credit for pleading guilty, or they can plead not guilty," adding that those pleading not guilty either believe they have been wrongly charged or they are "trying to pull the wool over the eyes of a jury". "In this case we have two defendants effectively turning on each other with a view to wriggle out of what each other has done." He added: "The sad truth in this case is that there are decent things to be said of everybody - perhaps not Majeed. But none of this could have happened without these four people involved. Butt, Asif and Amir were involved. And all for what? Money. More money." Jafferjee also highlighted an apparent flippant attitude towards fixing from Butt by repeating an answer received from a question during his cross-examination. When speaking to his own counsel, Butt said that corruption in cricket is terrible, is bad for the game, the team and the country. Although, Jafferjee went on, "when I asked him if cheating could destroy cricket, he then referred to WWF (World Wrestling Federation) and said 'everybody knows it's fixed but it still has a lot of following and viewing'." The case continues http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan...ry/537793.html
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