Sachin Tendulkar (like any other human being) has his fragile moments: Greg Chappell

[ganeshran]

^ man so much clarifications for what? ;) where did I said Sachin did anything wrong or illegal? you took it into altogether different direction... you claimed being a richest cricketer he doesnÃÕ have to write & sell a book and I said: IF being a richest cricketer' date=' he can WANT the duty to be exempted why he wouldnÃÕ like to earn through a book, so whatÃÔ wrong in that :dontknow:[/quote'] you said "something way decent", hence the clarification. :dontknow:

[SachDan]

If we, Indians start believing what pakis have to say about Sachin, by now we all be wondering why Sachin isn't sharing a room with Rajas and Amar Singhs of this world at Tihar jail :haha:

[Yoda-esque]

^:giggle:

[Asim]

you said "something way decent"' date=' hence the clarification. :dontknow:[/quote'] Yeah man I repeat... to me earning money from your own written book is wayyyy decent than wanting to save money from duty exemption... so? :dontknow:

[CSK Fan]

Yeah man I repeat... to me earning money from your own written book is wayyyy decent than wanting to save money from duty exemption... so? :dontknow:

If he had bought something for himself he would have paid any amount of tax. Even a moron won't pay tax for something which was gifted by someone else without his asking. Just because you have money doesn't mean you let people take you for a ride

[Yoda-esque]

Yeah man I repeat... to me earning money from your own written book is wayyyy decent than wanting to save money from duty exemption... so? :dontknow:

You are comparing Apples to Oranges.Typical Logic. So you are given a gift and you have pay a lot of money in order to accept that gift.What do you do ? And what he did with that car is his own business (even though I bet that the sales of that have gone to charity)

[ganeshran]

Yeah man I repeat... to me earning money from your own written book is wayyyy decent than wanting to save money from duty exemption... so? :dontknow:

My first post was that Sachin doesnt need to resort to cheap tricks to sell his books , not that he wont write one to make money or otherwise. Again back to your current post, you are trying to compare two different things by assigning moral weightages to them. I already gave reasons why the tax exemption was not a big deal and it turned out to be a complete non issue because Fiat foot the bill in the end.

[Asim]

If he had bought something for himself he would have paid any amount of tax. Even a moron won't pay tax for something which was gifted by someone else without his asking. Just because you have money doesn't mean you let people take you for a ride

you are right but for a moment if you can manage to put your emotions and Sachinism aside, think generically and talk common sense, you'd agree (I hope) that if some moron really liked a gift (ofcourse something he got in FREE) AND he loves to keep it AND he want to bring it home from any corner of world AND he can easily afford to pay, he would never even bother to think about avoiding tax...

[Asim]

You are comparing Apples to Oranges.Typical Logic. So you are given a gift and you have pay a lot of money in order to accept that gift.What do you do ? And what he did with that car is his own business (even though I bet that the sales of that have gone to charity)

yeah if I have to pay a lot of money to bring that gift from one corner of world to my home in another corner AND I cant afford that amount, I'd simply avoid bringing it... and in case I reallllly want to bring that gift with me then honestly speaking I would never try to escape that amount...

[ganeshran]

LOL its not like Sachin tried to escape that amount by smuggling the car into India. It was a request to the government to waive custom duty off a gift which is permissible under the law. The government accepted but when some people objected, Fiat offered to pay the duty and the matter was duly closed.

[Asim]

My first post was that Sachin doesnt need to resort to cheap tricks to sell his books , not that he wont write one to make money or otherwise. Again back to your current post, you are trying to compare two different things by assigning moral weightages to them. I already gave reasons why the tax exemption was not a big deal and it turned out to be a complete non issue because Fiat foot the bill in the end.

no, because a penny saved & a penny earned looks opposite but it is same thing at the end of the day...

LOL its not like Sachin tried to escape that amount by smuggling the car into India. It was a request to the government to waive custom duty off a gift which is permissible under the law. The government accepted but when some people objected, Fiat offered to pay the duty and the matter was duly closed.

OK, replace the word "escape" with "avoid" or whatever word you are comfartable with :giggle: 2ndly I already have said legality is never an issue here...

[ganeshran]

no' date=' because a penny saved & a penny earned looks opposite but it is same thing at the end of the day...[/quote'] Its not same because you are trying to make a moral judgement here comparing the two. You can take a stand and say that tax exemption that Sachin claimed was wrong, but making a contrived point by tying it to writing a book doesnt make any sense. Escape, avoid or any other word makes no difference. Since we have already established that legality is not an issue, then what is the problem. He asked for a tax exemption because the government was charging him more than the cost of the vehicle he was gifted. the government had two choices there - to accept or reject the request. they accepted his request in view of his sporting achievements. When a certain section of people objected, the matter was duly closed with Fiat paying the duty regardless of the fact that only very few people objected If you are debating about the ethical implications of Sachin wanting an import duty exemption in the first place to get a gift inside india, I dont see anything wrong with it. It was a gift for a once in a lifetime achievement and it makes common sense that a gift reach its recipient without him having to pay more than the cost of the article itself.

[StatsRock]

Is this from the feckers at TOI? Just check this image: http://i.imgur.com/7qADD.jpg Same article, different headline. Except that the Editor of TOI pulled out the word 'pressurise' out of his rear :hysterical:

[Asim]

Its not same because you are trying to make a moral judgement here comparing the two. You can take a stand and say that tax exemption that Sachin claimed was wrong, but making a contrived point by tying it to writing a book doesnt make any sense. Escape, avoid or any other word makes no difference. Since we have already established that legality is not an issue, then what is the problem. He asked for a tax exemption because the government was charging him more than the cost of the vehicle he was gifted. the government had two choices there - to accept or reject the request. they accepted his request in view of his sporting achievements. When a certain section of people objected, the matter was duly closed with Fiat paying the duty regardless of the fact that only very few people objected If you are debating about the ethical implications of Sachin wanting an import duty exemption in the first place to get a gift inside india, I dont see anything wrong with it. It was a gift for a once in a lifetime achievement and it makes common sense that a gift reach its recipient without him having to pay more than the cost of the article itself.

^ OK I agree He doesnt have to write a book, He is the richest cricketer around Good Night :asleep:

[Rajiv]

It takes a Sachin to sell a book

[Jersey #10]

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[pindxb]

Is this from the feckers at TOI? Just check this image: http://i.imgur.com/7qADD.jpg Same article, different headline. Except that the Editor of TOI pulled out the word 'pressurise' out of his rear :hysterical:

LOL.. they live to sensationalize..

[Sarkar]

Chappell is depressed soja beta

[Mariyam]

If he had bought something for himself he would have paid any amount of tax. Even a moron won't pay tax for something which was gifted by someone else without his asking. Just because you have money doesn't mean you let people take you for a ride

Suppose your well wisher gifted you a Czech made Electric Arc Furnace for your birthday, you would not be able to collect it from the customs port of entry till either you or the well wisher pay the requisite import duty. That its a gift or a bona-fide transaction doesn't make any difference.

[Mariyam]

LOL its not like Sachin tried to escape that amount by smuggling the car into India. It was a request to the government to waive custom duty off a gift which is permissible under the law. The government accepted but when some people objected, Fiat offered to pay the duty and the matter was duly closed.

Actually its not permissible. A waiver for a gift is only for certain categories of (personal) products and only if the worth is under a certain said amount ( Rs 25000 I think). Rule of thumb: There is almost never a waiver for those goods which: 1) disadvantage the local manufacturing industry 2) disadvantage the local pharma industry 3) goods which are taxed highly in India due to anti dumping laws. If we start exempting 'gifts', what people would do is they wouldn't conduct business transactions anymore. They would use fronts to send stuff as 'gifts' into India and people here would pay through hawala etc. Its one of those rules that GoI has been very firm about. Eitherways, what Tendulkar did was the right thing. No doubting his character. Edit: What Fiat??? Lol. Sachin was gifted a Ferrari.