Pakistan fast bowlers are bowling 125-135kmph in pak vs sl test matches.

[panther]

where?? in your dreams ?? i saw the match' date=' nuwan pradeep was bowling faster then gul. and being cleaver posting WI stats when asked for AUS stats. ishant wasnt bowling fast until umesh came.[/quote'] Umar Gul to Dilshan, no run, back of a length, 145.1 kph, but without movement, sits up and is defended without trouble Umar Gul to DPMD Jayawardene, no run, lot more effort into this back of a length ball from Gul, at 142 kph, it bounces sharply outside off, Mahela does not have enough width to cut, goes for the shot, and is beaten by the carry Umar Gul to DPMD Jayawardene, no run, 143 kph now, back of a length again, coming in a bit, Mahela rides the bounce, and defends Umar Gul to DPMD Jayawardene, no run, Mahela is pegged on the crease, this one was not that short, at 144 kph, but he shuffles across, stays back and blocks on top of the bounce Umar Gul to Sangakkara, no run, this one is clocked at 150.2 kph, pitched up for the drive, Sanga mistimes it towards mid off

[MCcricket]

Pakistan's bowling attack is the worst I have seen in 3 decades, no world class fast bowlers,Wahab, Umar are decent F Medium bowlers but not the same class as Waqar, Waseem, Akhtar, even Aquib.Indian bowlers right now are in a different league as fast as SA AND AUS, Ishant, Aaron, Umesh all bowl 140 to 150 easily in most spells, Shami, Sreesanth, Zak, Munaf Awana, Dinda can all touch 140 also as backup bowlers.

[panther]

where?? in your dreams ?? i saw the match' date=' nuwan pradeep was bowling faster then gul. and being cleaver posting WI stats when asked for AUS stats. ishant wasnt bowling fast until umesh came.[/quote'] he said both wi and aus, I couldn't find any hawk-eye for aus-india series.

[panther]

Pakistan's bowling attack is the worst I have seen in 3 decades' date=' no world class fast bowlers,Wahab, Umar are decent F Medium bowlers but not the same class as Waqar, Waseem, Akhtar, even Aquib.Indian bowlers right now are in a different league as fast as SA AND AUS, Ishant, Aaron, Umesh all bowl 140 to 150 easily in most spells, Shami, Sreesanth, Zak, Munaf Awana, Dinda can all touch 140 also as backup bowlers.[/quote'] I agree with you current fast bowling is very poor but that dosent mean ishant is a better bowler than gul, or aaron who has played 1 test match is a better bowler than gul.

[MCcricket]

I agree with you current fast bowling is very poor but that dosent mean ishant is a better bowler than gul' date=' or aaron who has played 1 test match is a better bowler than gul.[/quote'] I am talking mainly regards to pace, but Ishant , Aaron, Umesh have potential to be world class, among Pakistani bowlers I love watching Wahab, Umar is a decent bowler but his action and pace seems to be up and down , someone needs to work on his bowling as his action looks very ragged and that has effected his pace and bowling also there is a chance he might get injured.

[panther]

I am talking mainly regards to pace' date=' but Ishant , Aaron, Umesh have potential to be world class, among Pakistani bowlers I love watching Wahab, Umar is a decent bowler but his action and pace seems to be up and down , someone needs to work on his bowling as his action looks very ragged and that has effected his pace and bowling also there is a chance he might get injured.[/quote'] rytham bowler will never be consistant but when in rythem will win you matches as he did against england twice in 2010, against windies when they toured pak, t20 wc etc.

[Trichromatic]

I am talking mainly regards to pace' date=' but [b']Ishant , Aaron, Umesh have potential to be world class, among Pakistani bowlers I love watching Wahab, Umar is a decent bowler but his action and pace seems to be up and down , someone needs to work on his bowling as his action looks very ragged and that has effected his pace and bowling also there is a chance he might get injured.

He will never be a world class bowler.

[MCcricket]

rytham bowler will never be consistant but when in rythem will win you matches as he did against england twice in 2010' date=' against windies when they toured pak, t20 wc etc.[/quote'] If you watch Guls action closely from a couple of years back when he bowled in 140's his action has deteriorated a great deal and he has become more slingy, lost pace and bounce, movement.It is not about rhythm as he action needs to be worked upon if u play his action side by side and compare you will see the difference.Once he changes his body position before the delivery a bit as his run up is ok, it is the delivery stage which is the problem.I am pretty sure Waseem could correct that or any decent bowling coach.

[bajrang]

rytham bowler will never be consistant but when in rythem will win you matches as he did against england twice in 2010' date=' against windies when they toured pak, t20 wc etc.[/quote'] gul isnt the same post injuries that happened last year. his past exploits are irrelevant. sure he can bowl as fast as 140 -150 but he neither doing that regularly nor being in good rhythm. he is slipping hard. last 10 years pakistan have only produced one proven good fast bowler mohammad asif who still was a trundler.

[panther]

gul isnt the same post injuries that happened last year. his past exploits are irrelevant. sure he can bowl as fast as 140 -150 but he neither doing that regularly nor being in good rhythm. he is slipping hard. last 10 years pakistan have only produced one proven good fast bowler mohammad asif who still was a trundler.

what a trundler he was

[panther]

world class fast bowler's rarely come along last 10 years sa: steyn aus: dunno harris maybe pak: asif india: 0 windies: 0 sl: o

[panther]

I am not to worried about lack of world class fast bowler i am sure there will be 1 who will come through from the u19 team or the national talent hunt which is currently ongoing. we just lost amir and asif so we just have to be patient.

[Old guy]

world class fast bowler's rarely come along last 10 years sa: steyn aus: dunno harris maybe pak: asif india: 0 windies: 0 sl: o

lol if u included asif then please include morkel too and even philander who is so similar to asif

[panther]

lol if u included asif then please include morkel too and even philander who is so similar to asif

morkel is not world class yes i forgot philander lol

[thongale]

Any one who says a 132-137k bowler a trundler needs their brains to be checked. The model trundler is Kulasekara, bowling 120-130k range. Praveen Kumar, Bangladesh faster men, Copeland and Tsotsobe at times can be given as examples. Gul and Junaid are bit too quick to become trundlers.

[Old guy]

morkel is not world class yes i forgot philander lol

lol i rate him higher then asif honestly even adrerson since his comeback against nz has bowled quite beautifully even steyn said the way he bowled against india he might be no 1 bowler specially how he bowled against sachin he is quite deadly in good conditions and all right in sub ocntinent (he did well in abu dhabi and sri lanka ) asif wicked like 2 wickets in 2 tests against south africa at home...

[panther]

lol i rate him higher then asif honestly even adrerson since his comeback against nz has bowled quite beautifully even steyn said the way he bowled against india he might be no 1 bowler specially how he bowled against sachin he is quite deadly in good conditions and all right in sub ocntinent (he did well in abu dhabi and sri lanka ) asif wicked like 2 wickets in 2 tests against south africa at home...

these guys zaheer khan, morkel and anderson are good bowler but not in the same class as asif, steyn etc. averaging under 25 for a shady character is pretty awesome.

[Old guy]

these guys zaheer khan, morkel and anderson are good bowler but not in the same class as asif, steyn etc. averaging under 25 for a shady character is pretty awesome.

lol it was pretty short career 23 matches...also anderson would be averaging quite similar ever since his come back even morkel improved a lot plz just dont look at stats anderson is averaging 23 in last 2 years... morkel is averaging 26 i think in last 3 years and he is still improving some bowlers start slow but right now andersons is bowling at similar if not better level then asif

[panther]

lol it was pretty short career 23 matches...also anderson would be averaging quite similar ever since his come back even morkel improved a lot plz just dont look at stats anderson is averaging 23 in last 2 years... morkel is averaging 26 i think in last 3 years and he is still improving some bowlers start slow but right now andersons is bowling at similar if not better level then asif

without looking at stats you can see that asif is a better bowler than the 2 you mentioned. these bowler anderson etc improved through hard work etc but asif had the natural talent in his wrist could make the ball talk like no one else.

[Old guy]

without looking at stats you can see that asif is a better bowler than the 2 you mentioned. these bowler anderson etc improved through hard work etc but asif had the natural talent in his wrist could make the ball talk like no one else.

lol....all bowlers dont mature at equal rate.. well he had talent but it does not mtters wht matters is application and also u said right now world class bowlers produced.. if anderson is bringing in similar or better results then asif and winning matches then only tht thing matters nothing else who cares weather results are coming through talent or hard work.. in the end anderson is as effective as asif.. also anderson too is talented in many diff ways he was just wayward before he can swing,seam and also plan very well then if pace is needed he can step it up as well unlike asif