Sachinism Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 No. of runs Dhoni has scored since last dismissal in ODIs: 340. No. of times he has been dismissed while scoring last 338 runs in Tests: 15.
Sachin=GOD Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 I understand the preference of players to play in these tournaments but the calendar should be desiged including IPL/CL and not around them. The number of days a player plays international/domestic/IPL should be limited to limit player fatigue and so that everyone remains in proper touch. that can only happen if the ICC allows windows in the FTP for these tournaments. Unless and until that happens we will continue to see the BCCI arbitrarily scheduling/rescheduling/cancelling series' at their whims.
bulbul Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 that can only happen if the ICC allows windows in the FTP for these tournaments. Unless and until that happens we will continue to see the BCCI arbitrarily scheduling/rescheduling/cancelling series' at their whims. ICC allowing IPL/CL is not easy...even Other countries also want thier leagues to be involved then.. CL works fine becuase 3 Major countries involved... only way is reduce unnecesary ODI and Test matches...
Sachin=GOD Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 ICC allowing IPL/CL is not easy...even Other countries also want thier leagues to be involved then.. CL works fine becuase 3 Major countries involved... only way is reduce unnecesary ODI and Test matches... why not reduce unnecessary t20s which are affecting the performance of players in both ODI and Tests...
Sachinism Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Now dravid gone :(( What a way to go as well. Sehwag, Sachin, Lax or Yuvi haven't had much practice. Yuvi isn't really a test player. Dhoni sucks at Tests. Going into a match like this and a few things go wrong, this is what happens.
bulbul Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 why not reduce unnecessary t20s which are affecting the performance of players in both ODI and Tests... i ma talking about International matches...very few T20 matches played in country level...while we have lots of 5//7 ODI match series going on...they should easily reduce them so does some Test matches against Strong and Weak teams IPL/CL/Big Bash/County T20 you cant reduce because of Popularity and Money....
Trichromatic Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Rahul Dravid (Since Jan 2010) Matches : 13 Runs : 807 Avg : 40.35 Form consistently going down since then VVS Laxman (Since Mar 2010) Matches : 18 Runs : 1193 Avg: 42.6 Consistently struggled, few good performances. Sehwag and Gambhir - Struggling since 2010 Rest of the players are not test standard batsmen. Still people lived in denial and believed that performance in England was fluke/unlucky. But I was really surprised when someone like Shastri said that India would have thrashed England if a series was played now.
ganeshran Posted November 7, 2011 Author Posted November 7, 2011 I have said this earlier that Indian batting wasn't in good form even before WI series. Batting form of most of our batsmen was going down and fans didn't notice it because of unbelievable renaissance of SRT and the amazing days of test rank # 1. This is nothing new. Whenever SRT performs well, most of the fans hardly notice failures of other batsmen. This batting lineup struggled against NZ, SA, England etc. Now we are noticing it because SRT is not performing and we are losing matches. I bet if we were still saving matches and SRT was doing well, this would not looked like a big issue. We haven't found replacement for no 6 batsman yet. Batting was on downward path for long time and now we can feel it. Last 20 months (since 1 Mar 2010) Sehwag, Dravid, Gambhir, Dhoni, Raina etc were in ordinary form for long time. This is sad but true. Our strength is batting. If it doesnt click we are toast. Bowling was always the secondary part of Indian cricket :((
gaurav92 Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Rahul Dravid (Since Jan 2010) Matches : 13 Runs : 807 Avg : 40.35 Form consistently going down since then VVS Laxman (Since Mar 2010) Matches : 18 Runs : 1193 Avg: 42.6 Consistently struggled, few good performances. Sehwag and Gambhir - Struggling since 2010 Rest of the players are not test standard batsmen. Still people lived in denial and believed that performance in England was fluke/unlucky. But I was really surprised when someone like Shastri said that India would have thrashed England if a series was played now. :((
Sid Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 What a way to go as well. Sehwag, Sachin, Lax or Yuvi haven't had much practice. Yuvi isn't really a test player. Dhoni sucks at Tests. Going into a match like this and a few things go wrong, this is what happens. Nicely summed up.
Yoda-esque Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 The fact of the matter is that the Indian Batting relies on the fortunes of Sehwag's batting. When hes in full flow, we usually see scores of 500+ and it all seems easy. But when he is in poor form,the Middle order striggles big time like the 90s.
Pagalpanti Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 ^Tbf he did give the start middle order needed, Sehwag has never changed his game, he scores big or nothing. Middle order has been very inconsistent. Sachin bailed us out big time in the Australia series last year, else it would've still been 2-0 but otherway around.
Stuge Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 The title was the signature of one of the posters here. What is wrong with the performance of our test batting line up right from the England tour? Some occasional flashes of brilliance seem to be surrounded by abject collapses. it was my signature during World Cup .I guess I should use it again
CG Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Clearly There is Lack of focus .These days shewag plays like he does not care .
Number Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Losing Laxman and sachin in quick succession is creating trouble. I think Laxman should play at no. 6 and Yuvi or Kohli at no. 5 , that will give them a chance to play under less pressure.
Sid Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Clearly There is Lack of focus .These days shewag plays like he does not care . WTF what did Sehwag had to do with todays collapse.Only when he was around it seemed like Windies had no chance in the game.
Pagalpanti Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Clearly There is Lack of focus .These days shewag plays like he does not care . He played like he always does and still manages to average 50+ so stop complaining about him. Its because of him the middle order always gets to come in at a comfortable position. When he fails the middle order should stand up and take responsibility.
CG Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 WTF what did Sehwag had to do with todays collapse.Only when he was around it seemed like Windies had no chance in the game. Please read the post Its not one game i am talking about last few years he is playing very irresponsibly which was not the case when he was making a comeback against australia in 2008 he played with great determination but now his place is secure and he has been given full creative freedom but that he needs to be a bit restrained dravid,tendulkar,laxman are near the end,he will have more responsibilty in future.
CG Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 He played like he always does and still manages to average 50+ so stop complaining about him. Its because of him the middle order always gets to come in at a comfortable position. When he fails the middle order should stand up and take responsibility. There is difference between Attacking Batting and harakiri and all these talk about thats the way he plays is bullshit .He best knocks have been when he has built an innings and then gone after the bowling.He has to go back to that attitude as it got him runs abroad also.
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