Impressed by Aaron

[AnkurUpadhyay]

But he's from Jharkhand. This would get Dhoni going. Then Aaron can work his charm on him once he has Dhoni's attention.

Desi maal...:winky: But ab Dhoni ko Hi-fi maal ka chaska lag gaya hai (aka Ishant-Ashwin). Wo kahte hain naa Ghar ki murgi daal barabar. :giggle:

[Old guy]

He will be another manoj tiwary Retire without getting any chance and always injured

[I6MTW]

He will be another manoj tiwary Retire without getting any chance and always injured

Manoj Tiwary wasn't selected partly because his fault was also at play.

[Old guy]

Manoj Tiwary wasn't selected partly because his fault was also at play.

Like what ? Scoring 100 in first chance he got? Scoring 50 in next one ?

[I6MTW]

Like what ? Scoring 100 in first chance he got? Scoring 50 in next one ?

After he got injured, he never trained or prepared as well as he once did. He lost interest in training and is now playing domestic cricket half-heartedly. It seems like he doesn't even want to play for India anymore.

[Old guy]

After he got injured, he never trained or prepared as well as he once did. He lost interest in training and is now playing domestic cricket half-heartedly. It seems like he doesn't even want to play for India anymore.

Yeah him averaging 60 and then scoring runs in every opportunity lead to him getting dumped for no reason and it's his fault he got dis interested ..

[Lord]

Yeah him averaging 60 and then scoring runs in every opportunity lead to him getting dumped for no reason and it's his fault he got dis interested ..

lol have lambu in your av.we need that more:pray:

[Old guy]

lol have lambu in your av.we need that more:pray:

Nah let him get smacked for good so that he is not selected for season

[Lord]

Nah let him get smacked for good so that he is not selected for season

he gets selected anyway.:dontknow: everyone has tried.Faulkner etc:(( only you can save us:pray: still have bit of hope in Nohit:--D

[Old guy]

he gets selected anyway.:dontknow: everyone has tried.Faulkner etc:(( only you can save us:pray: still have bit of hope in Nohit:--D

Hmm. Sorry black magic only works once a week

[Lord]

Hmm. Sorry black magic only works once a week

okay.but next should be lambu:dance:

[Old guy]

okay.but next should be lambu:dance:

Pukka :two_thumbs_up:

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

Now just tell me how Ishant got those wickets? Most of them were fluke wickets. I am just saying that if we can give Ishant chances after chances then why can't we try Yadav too? If team management considers Yadav unfit for ODIs then why was he selected for South African ODI series? Once selected, he should have been given chances properly. But Dhoni was so biased against him as if he is trying to destroy Yadav's career. And then he was dropped for no proper reason. You have to understand that we don't have too many options as far as seam attack goes and Yadav is one of the better options available. He should be in the mix of things, considering that next World Cup is on Australian soil and he was our best bowler on the last tour. Ishant Sharma was rubbish on that tour too (Not a surprise though). Yadav need to be a part of our WC squad, if not playing 11. Australian Wickets suits his style of bowling. My WC seam attack : Bhuvi, Aaron, Shami, Yadav, Pandey/Pankaj/Any Other Pacer. Apart from that we need a seam bowling allrounder too : someone in the mould of Rishi Dhawan.

Have you even watched the Champions Trophy? Literally half of Ishant's wickets were caught by the keeper/slips. Umesh Yadav on the other hand couldn't even get a single wicket against Pakistan or Sri Lanka. He isn't getting repeated chances because he is yet to prove that he can be any good at all in this format. He's expensive and he is the least likely of our bowlers to take a wicket. Where's the upside? The selectors most likely chose Yadav for South Africa ODIs because they figured a guy with his pace would surely perform better on the pacy wickets of South Africa. When he didn't do well there either (1 wicket in 2 matches at 102.00), they finally realised that he's just not much good at ODIs period. What you don't seem to understand is Umesh Yadav just doesn't have much going for him in ODIs except pace. We could pick average trundlers like we have been doing all these years and even they would perform better than Yadav would. Yadav leaks a lot more runs while taking lesser wickets than the likes of even Nehra, Dinda and Sreesanth. Now if he were to go back to the domestic level and work on his bowling in the limited overs format and prove he can use his pace for good rather than be erratic because of it, then he can be in India's scheme of things in ODIs.

[express bowling]

Genuine pace often helps another accurate pacer take wickets, even when that quick himself is not doing so. Morkel has the worst average among South African established pacers. Yet, he is always picked and it was being discussed that Steyn and Philander perform better when combined with Morkel. Even if an out and out quick is going for runs because he is erratic, no batsman in the world likes facing a very quick delivery because cricket is played with a really hard ball. There is always a discomfort factor even among batters used to playing pace. Softening up batters with pace is almost always effective. If Aaron is bowling full pace in the ODIs then Umesh is not really required in the shorter format. But, if a genuine quick is absent, especially in outside the subcontinent ODIs, then having Umesh is not a very bad idea. He needs a simple set of instructions from the captain though. Bowl straight and quick and don't experiment. Also, he should not be used much in the last 5 overs. A little guidance can make him a lot better. He needs to be used better and smarter keeping in mind his strengths and weaknesses.

[King Tendulkar]

Genuine pace often helps another accurate pacer take wickets, even when that quick himself is not doing so. Morkel has the worst average among South African established pacers. Yet, he is always picked and it was being discussed that Steyn and Philander perform better when combined with Morkel. Even if an out and out quick is going for runs because he is erratic, no batsman in the world likes facing a very quick delivery because cricket is played with a really hard ball. There is always a discomfort factor even among batters used to playing pace. Softening up batters with pace is almost always effective. If Aaron is bowling full pace in the ODIs then Umesh is not really required in the shorter format. But, if a genuine quick is absent, especially in outside the subcontinent ODIs, then having Umesh is not a very bad idea. He needs a simple set of instructions from the captain though. Bowl straight and quick and don't experiment. Also, he should not be used much in the last 5 overs. A little guidance can make him a lot better. He needs to be used better and smarter keeping in mind his strengths and weaknesses.

10000% agree

[AnkurUpadhyay]

Ishant Sharma should be replaced by Varun Aaron, says Manoj Prabhakar

Former India cricketer Manoj Prabhakar feels that under-performing Ishant Sharma should be replaced with Varun Aaron if the team are to have any chance of winning a game in the ongoing One-Day International (ODI) series against New Zealand. “Our bowlers are completely clueless during slog overs. Ishant Sharma shouldn’t be playing for India,†said Prabhakar who was quoted as saying by Times of India. “Why isn’t [Varun] Aaron playing. The fact that there are two spinners in the team is surprising. Given by our performance, it will be difficult to retain the World Cup [in 2015]. If we are wasting time on Ishant Sharma, God help the Indian team,†added Prabhakar. Prabhakar said that apart from Mohammed Shami, no other bowler has performed well for India and also added that Bhuvaneshwar Kumar was to be used in one complete spell. “I don’t understand why Ravichandran Ashwin is playing when you have an all-rounder in Stuart Binny. I believe that all-rounders who bowl medium pace are much more effective. Suresh Raina could be used as Ashwin’s replacement,†said Prabhakar. “Being a top team if we struggle to beat New Zealand, the management needs to introspect. It should learn how New Zealand bowlers are using slow deliveries,†concluded Prabhakar.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/ishant-sharma-should-be-replaced-by-varun-aaron-says-manoj-prabhakar-88386

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

Genuine pace often helps another accurate pacer take wickets, even when that quick himself is not doing so. Morkel has the worst average among South African established pacers. Yet, he is always picked and it was being discussed that Steyn and Philander perform better when combined with Morkel. Even if an out and out quick is going for runs because he is erratic, no batsman in the world likes facing a very quick delivery because cricket is played with a really hard ball. There is always a discomfort factor even among batters used to playing pace. Softening up batters with pace is almost always effective. If Aaron is bowling full pace in the ODIs then Umesh is not really required in the shorter format. But, if a genuine quick is absent, especially in outside the subcontinent ODIs, then having Umesh is not a very bad idea. He needs a simple set of instructions from the captain though. Bowl straight and quick and don't experiment. Also, he should not be used much in the last 5 overs. A little guidance can make him a lot better. He needs to be used better and smarter keeping in mind his strengths and weaknesses.

Morne Morkel keeps pressure on the batsmen by bowling maiden after maiden. He bowls short of a length that bounces steeply due to his height and is difficult to score off. When Steyn and Philander come in and the batsmen see anything a lot fuller, they go for it and end up giving away their wicket. That's why the threesome works. Anyway, this isn't about Tests, it's about ODIs, and Morne's average in ODIs is as good as any of his teammates. International batsmen nowadays are a lot more used to facing fast bowlers of 140+ kph. But when a bowler of his pace is doing just as poorly against domestic Indian batsmen who are a lot less used to facing that kind of pace, that just shows how utterly ineffective he is. Varun Aaron should absolutely be picked if he's available. But should we pick pace just for the sake of it? In the case of Umesh, no. He's about the most useless ODI bowler we've ever picked.

[express bowling]

^ Morkel was pretty ordinary performancewise for a long time, especially .considering he was representing South Africa. They just persisted with him, basically because of his pace and bounce. He has become better after a lot of faith was shown in him. The pitches in domestic list A matches are so flat that just pace is not always effective. Because of this reason , Umesh maybe ignored in domestic ODIs. But abroad, he looks decent in ODIs, when the pitches are better. In the Champion's trophy and in SAF ODIs, he did decently. Got bounce too. A predominantly medium pace attack rarely succeeds.

[TNAmarkFrmIndia]

^ Morkel was pretty ordinary performancewise for a long time, especially .considering he was representing South Africa. They just persisted with him, basically because of his pace and bounce. He has become better after a lot of faith was shown in him. The pitches in domestic list A matches are so flat that just pace is not always effective. Because of this reason , Umesh maybe ignored in domestic ODIs. But abroad, he looks decent in ODIs, when the pitches are better. In the Champion's trophy and in SAF ODIs, he did decently. Got bounce too. A predominantly medium pace attack rarely succeeds.

Morne took 25 wickets @24.40 in 2013, 20 wickets @21.15 in 2012, 26 wickets @17.65 in 2011 and 19 wickets @22.84 in 2010. If any of this is ordinary, your expectations are way too high. Interesting about flat pitches in domestic cricket. Varun Aaron has played 11 domestic one-dayers and has taken 23 wickets @17.48. When you're good, you're good. When you're not, you just aren't. Who says we have a predominantly medium pace attack? We have Bhuvneshwar who is early-mid 130s, Shami who is late 130s-early 140s and Varun Aaron who is early 140s. A varied attack with varying speeds and various strengths. As opposed to having both Aaron and Yadav like some speed junkies suggest and having two bowlers who bowl at the same speed, same height and same angle. That'll make Yadav even less effective than he already is.

[AnkurUpadhyay]

^ Morkel was pretty ordinary performancewise for a long time, especially .considering he was representing South Africa. They just persisted with him, basically because of his pace and bounce. He has become better after a lot of faith was shown in him. The pitches in domestic list A matches are so flat that just pace is not always effective. Because of this reason , Umesh maybe ignored in domestic ODIs. But abroad, he looks decent in ODIs, when the pitches are better. In the Champion's trophy and in SAF ODIs, he did decently. Got bounce too. A predominantly medium pace attack rarely succeeds.

Don't try your socks off in making him understand. He is only looking at strike rate and economy. He has no idea that how different are Yadav and Ishant bowling. Yadav looks threatening in most of his spells. He sometimes goes for runs too but I have never seen a batsman coming half way down the track to him. While Batsman charge Ishant from the first ball. Ishant has no respect in the eyes of batsman. They play him like a spinner. He is not comparing Ishant and Yadav bowling wise. He is comparing stats wise. All Ishant tries to do is stop runs and fails at it miserably too while Yadav goes for runs because he tries to go for the kill. Theres a big difference in their mentality. Yadav bowls like a pacer, runs in hard, tries to make things happen( sometimes too much, i admit). While Ishant runs in without any purpose. He need to understand that he is most experienced pacer in this Indian line up. He must feel proud and give his all. But why should he? Afterall, he never had to work hard to attain this position. He can bowl rubbish over after over, match after match, series after series, but Dhoni will still select him. Why should he improve? Why should he work hard? Why should he improve his seam position. He just doesn't need to. Only if Dhoni backed some better pacers like Yadav or Aaron or Pankaj Singh.