Stuge Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Eric Simons is approaching the end of his term as bowling coach of India. It hurts him that early reports suggested he was sacked, or, to use popular parlance, "the first casualty of the two whitewashes". Had the results of his work as bowling coach been more conspicuous, he may not have minded such suggestions as much. There are contrasting views on Simons. The players all praise him, which is why his contract was extended in the first place. Outsiders look at the likes of Ishant Sharma and Sreesanth, and conclude that their apparent lack of progress is Simons' failure. In what was, in all likelihood, Simons' final press conference as India bowling coach, he spoke at length about various issues and bowlers. He disagrees with the notion that Ishant does not know how to take wickets. He insists Ishant has worked on his game, bowling six to 18 inches fuller on the Australia tour than he previously did, and that he has been unlucky. He says Sreesanth is one of the most skilled bowlers he has worked with, but the fact that he could not inculcate consistency in him was something that disappointed him. Contributing to the World Cup win is a cherished achievement, as is helping Ishant regain his pace. Here are some excerpts from the press conference. How has your overall experience been? I don't want it to sound like a cliché, but it has been an incredible experience for me. I hoped to come along and teach some cricketers some things, to share some input, but I think one of the incredible things was that it was a learning experience for me, not only as a cricketer but as a person. Is Ishant unlucky or does he not know how to take wickets? It's a funny one. In one of the first series [of my tenure] versus South Africa, in the Test we won in Kolkata, he bowled brilliantly but didn't get the rewards he deserved. You could see his frustration. To me, he is one of the unluckiest bowlers in the sense that for how well he bowls, and the number of wicket-taking balls he bowls, he just doesn't seem to pick up the wickets I believe - and everyone else believes - he deserves. We know that the Australians were pleased he wasn't involved in the one-day series. He bowled so well [in the Tests], he was the one that troubled them. Morne Morkel is a similar bowler to Ishant [they are both tall]; he also bowls really well but doesn't pick up the number of wickets we expect him to. For Ishant to hit the stumps, he has to pitch it fuller, and that means the batsman has more chance of keeping it out. He has to find the right mix of deliveries to bowl. Can one be unlucky for so long? In the past, maybe you could make the point that he was not really that unlucky; but in the series against Australia, the nick that went between Laxman and Dhoni, the balls that looped and dropped safe, ones that hit the splice and did not go to hand, they were really down to poor luck. I really think in this series Ishant kicked on a long way in terms of the number of wicket-taking deliveries he bowled. I really do believe he was unlucky. I hope he is not discouraged. I hope Indian cricket sticks with him. They have got an incredible cricketer in him. It's believed that if he can pitch the ball a couple of feet fuller, he will create nicks and not just go past the bat … We found that his length in Australia was a good six to 18 inches fuller than what used to be his regular length. We worked on getting his length right. It is not always that easy, you know. I think the movement he is now getting, both away from the batsman and back in, is going to make a difference. He wants to play one-day cricket. Should he? When I arrived, opinion was that focusing on Tests would be best for his development, and I think he was happy with that. At that stage that was probably the right decision. Personally, I believe he is ready for one-day cricket now. I think he is bowling exceptionally well. It is all about control and confidence. But I am not part of the selection process. You are at the nets, you know the guy, you know he is ready and when to let him go, and when not to. Maybe being conservative with Ishant is the way the selectors want to go. I think he is ready, but that's the selectors' decision. I'll live with that. You were so impressed with Munaf Patel. Why wasn't he given a chance in the Tests in England. He even lost out to an out-of-shape RP Singh When RP Singh came back into the side, the point I made was that, because we didn't have anyone who could bowl at 145kph, we had to be innovative and clever in the way we put our attack together. The thinking was that if you lost someone like Zak [Zaheer Khan], you wanted someone a little bit different. That counted in someone like RP's favour. If you have bowlers who are all similar then the batsman never has to change his angle or think differently. It was a pity Munaf didn't play because he played a major role in the World Cup success. It's not always what he has done in terms of wickets, but what he allows the other players to do. http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/554070.html
Old guy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 cmon.. when coach talks like this..bowler will never improve i saw the whole series after each so called wicket taking ball there was a boundary ball he never attacked stumps.. or sticked to one line length too short .. well good thing he is sacked :P
Ultimate_Game Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 "Unlucky" is a word used by people to hide their deficiencies. If you are "unlucky" most of the time chances are you are not that good, just liek Mohd Sami.
Texy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Eric Simmons is "unlucky" that he wasn't shown a middle finger, kidnapped and taken onto a ferry where a stinky monkey pees on him every hour or so while he watches Ishant's wrist action over and over again on the giant screen which is also hooked up to a car battery and discharges every time Ishant bowls wide off stump or wide half volley and sends electric shocks to Eric Simmons' scrotum
Old guy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Eric Simmons is "unlucky" that he wasn't shown a middle finger' date=' kidnapped and taken onto a ferry where a stinky monkey pees on him every hour or so while he watches Ishant's wrist action over and over again on the giant screen which is also hooked up to a car battery and discharges every time Ishant bowls wide off stump or wide half volley and sends electric shocks to Eric Simmons' scrotum[/quote'] ouch.
Raghav_12 Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Looks like he only has good things to say about Indian bowlers. I think coach needs to be more critical of his players.
Ultimate_Game Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Looks like he only has good things to say about Indian bowlers. I think coach needs to be more critical of his players. Actually he did the right think... Management 101 - praise your team in front of others and criticize them in private.
CG Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Actually he did the right think... Management 101 - praise your team in front of others and criticize them in private. Problem is i do not think he did criticize them in private.If a bowling coach cannot correct the basic of fast bowling that is wrist position and goes to say every thing is all right and he was unlucky ,you know what he has his mind on.
Raghav_12 Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Actually he did the right think... Management 101 - praise your team in front of others and criticize them in private. May be.. But if Ishant even half as good as he said, i would be very happy. I agree with his claims that he got pace back to Ishant.
Clarke Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 :hysterical: Other than the WI series, here are the bowling averages: SA in SA - 48 Eng in Eng - 58 WI in India - 67 Aus in Aus - 90 This to$$er then has the audacity to label that as unlucky. Its us who are unlucky to have that punk in the squad and this mad man as staff. But wait, he bowls phaasstttt, all is forgiven.
Deleted_User_1 Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Eric Simmons is "unlucky" that he wasn't shown a middle finger' date=' kidnapped and taken onto a ferry where a stinky monkey pees on him every hour or so while he watches Ishant's wrist action over and over again on the giant screen which is also hooked up to a car battery and discharges every time Ishant bowls wide off stump or wide half volley and sends electric shocks to Eric Simmons' scrotum[/quote'] Thik achhish to?
Yoda-esque Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Enough with this "Ishant is unlucky" crap.He just doesnt bowl consistently enough wkt taking deliveries.
biltz Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 He need some improvement, Gotta agree with a poster above when a coach talks like this it means two things either the player is not good enough to learn it or maybe the coach isn't good enough to impart new skills into the player, btw saw Sharma being whacked everywhere in the hands of tendu
Tiger80 Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Arrey bhai Ilaaj karwa raha hai apne unluck kaa ab ek jyotishi fail ho gaya to kya poore India mein bahut saare hain
Desi Cartman Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 the question was " is he lucky or doesnt know how to bowl" .... what else could have a coach replied. He cant say he doesnt know how to bowl I guess
Stuge Posted February 17, 2012 Author Posted February 17, 2012 more on that page Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav are players I am very excited about. We will excited when this "unlucky guy" leaves Indian team and play in domestic tournaments to improve his bowling skills .
Sid Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 On the contrary I think Ishant is one of the luckiest bowler to play so many games consistently even after being a **** bowler against top teams.
Stuge Posted February 17, 2012 Author Posted February 17, 2012 On the contrary I think Ishant is one of the luckiest bowler to play so many games consistently even after being a **** bowler against top teams. This tell our luck with fast bowlers :((
Texy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Thik achhish to? :D Oor privates er upor frustration dur korchi :((
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