IPL - Domestic Spot/Match Fixing | Five players suspended | Five players handed out tough bans

[ganeshran]

on ndtv who was the woman giving comments regarding the debate with nikhil naz, deano and sunny g she seemed to be clueless who is she? latika something??

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Searching for fapping material again

[jind]

With regards to uncapped players under the table deals, everybody knows about it from the start. For example Jadeja and Pandey are just a few examples. Why would Pandey choose Pune over Bangalore? It was the money.... and even Mallya (how ironic) mentioned about these under the table deals. They need to change the uncapped player salary to around $200,000K..There's too much disparity at the moment to be honest.. The thing is even one international cap gets raises your value by 10x. Also what about the "trades" that happen in the offseason.. How come these are not added to the franchise salary cap. There's too much of this stuff going and uncapped players bargain.

[Crookbond]

^ The question for me is - If Pandey or Jadeja tried to negotiate a deal they weren't themselves but the franchisees were ready to offer too. So why is it that only Jadeja was banned for 1 year and Pandey was suspended for 4 matches while the franchisees who were dealing were allowed to go scot free?

[Marut]

^ Frnachisee Owners are reputed and noble minded people, who must be honored at all costs. Anyways, the BCCI is not going to make the mistake of antagonizing the rich and affluential owners of the IPL teams.

[jind]

^ The question for me is - If Pandey or Jadeja tried to negotiate a deal they weren't themselves but the franchisees were ready to offer too. So why is it that only Jadeja was banned for 1 year and Pandey was suspended for 4 matches while the franchisees who were dealing were allowed to go scot free?

Exactly!! They're just putting the blame elsewhere that is on the small fish. this under the table deals go on all the time...how else would you explain players like Suman, Pandey, etc moving to teams like Mumbai and Pune. Other thing is during off season, so many players move from one team to another. Where is the accountability of the salary cap here?

[Crookbond]

:agree:

[rkt.india]

Life ban for T P sudhindra. Life ban for T P sudhindra, 5 year ban for shalabh srivastava, one year ban for yadav, mishra and bali. T. Sudhindra became the third cricketer from India, after Mohammed Azharuddin and Ajay Sharma in 2000, to suffer a life ban for bringing the game into disrepute. The Madhya Pradesh and Deccan Chargers bowler was handed the punishment by the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) on Saturday after a Disciplinary Committee hearing at the Cricket Centre here. Sudhindra was held guilty of receiving money to spot fix a match in domestic cricket and given exemplary penalty. “He has been debarred for life, from playing any cricket matches conducted or authorised by the ICC, BCCI, or any affiliated unit of the Board,” said a media statement from the Board after the hearing. Former India captain Azharuddin and all-rounder Ajay Sharma were banned for life in 2000 after an internal inquiry by K. Madhavan following the publication of a CBI report, found them guilty of match-fixing. Ajay Jadeja and Manoj Prabhakar were suspended for five years. Sudhindra was caught on camera by India TV during a sting operation conducted before IPL 2012, agreeing to bowl a no-ball in an Indore league match. The channel reporters posed as sports management company representatives and the footage was aired by the channel, showing what they claimed was a no-ball bowled by Sudhindra in the match. The BCCI decision bars Sudhindra from holding any position in any BCCI affiliated cricket association for life. Shalabh Srivastava of Uttar Pradesh faces a five-year ban for agreeing to fix a match and negotiating with the reporters engaged in the sting operation. He was in Kings XI Punjab, but did not play any match in IPL-V. One-year bans Three others — Mohnish Mishra, Amit Yadav and Abhinav Bali — have been banned for one year from playing in BCCI or ICC events. Sudhindra, Mishra and Bali were given personal hearings by the Disciplinary Committee (N. Srinivasan, Arun Jaitley and Niranjan Shah) at the Cricket Centre. Srivastava and Yadav were linked up via teleconference. The report presented before the Board committee by Ravi Sawani, Commissioner of Inquiry, was considered and after hearing out the players, the penalties were decided. Apart from being debarred from playing in BCCI or ICC competitions for life, Sudhindra will not be entitled to monthly gratis, benevolent fund, benefit match or any other facility, in lieu of, the statement explains. He was the highest wicket-taker in Ranji Trophy 2011-12 season with 40 wickets, bowling right-arm medium pace for Madhya Pradesh and later drafted into Deccan Chargers. The five-year ban on Srivastava is for agreeing to bowl a no-ball against payment. “He was held guilty of agreeing to fix a match and negotiating terms, even though no actual match/spot fixing took place,” the statement explained. The Uttar Pradesh bowler, a member of the India under-19 World Cup-winning squad led by Mohd. Kaif, will also not be entitled to grants and other post-retirement benefits. Mishra represented the national junior teams in the under-17 and 19 categories and averages 44.86 in first-class cricket for Madhya Pradesh and played for two IPL sides, Deccan Charges earlier, before being picked up by Sahara Pune Warriors. He was punished for disclosures about black money payment by IPL franchises to players. Yadav, an all-rounder from Goa and playing for King’s XI Punjab, alleged that one match in IPL-IV was fixed. http://www.thehindu.com/sport/article3588687.ece

[1983-2011]

Three other players were given one-year bans for bringing the game into disrepute through "loose talk and unsubstantiated bragging"

did they investigate their unsubstantiated bragging

[1983-2011]

will the BCCI release the report compiled by Ravi Sawani to the public

[Ultimate_Game]

Way too harsh IMO. These no-name FC cricketers and youngsters are handed stiff punishments when they didn't even do anything, and generally for bragging to bag a contract with a sports agency as they were under the impression they were talking to a sports agent. On the other hand we actually have guys who were caught fixing in intl cricket with all the evidence and they were only given a 5 year ban Comparing what the Paki trio did and the punishment they got, Sudhindra should have been given a 1 year ban at max and the rest a stern warning or 6 months at max. You can't ban someone for "bragging" - simply doesn't make any sense.

[Precambrian]

Sudhindra I think was banned for spot fixing.

[Ultimate_Game]

Sudhindra I think was banned for spot fixing.

Nope... it was for "consideration of spot fixing", not for spot-fixing. Essentially he was bragging to the journo, thinking him to be a sports agent, that he was so influential he could spot-fix the game and came up with a few examples/instances from the past to prove so. He was essentially biggying himself up so he could land a big contract and there's no evidence or proof he did spot fix. This is what the article had to say...

The harshest punishment was dealt to Madhya Pradesh fast bowler TP Sudhindra, who was handed a life ban after being found guilty of "receiving a consideration to spot-fix" in a domestic game.

Link... http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/570524.html

[Lord]

Nope... it was for "consideration of spot fixing"' date=' not for spot-fixing. Essentially he was bragging to the journo, thinking him to be a sports agent, that he was so influential he could spot-fix the game and came up with a few examples/instances from the past to prove so. He was essentially biggying himself up so he could land a big contract and there's no evidence or proof he did spot fix.[/quote'] he did bowl that no ball that was bigger than Aamir's.so he did spot fix

[Ultimate_Game]

he did bowl that no ball that was bigger than Aamir's.so he did spot fix

As I said he used an example from the past (after the fact) trying to prove how influential he was and what he was capable of etc.

[Lord]

As I said he used an example from the past (after the fact) trying to prove how influential he was and what he was capable of etc.

are u saying IndiaTV lied?according to them he took the money n then later bowled that no ball in that match

[Precambrian]

Nope... it was for "consideration of spot fixing", not for spot-fixing. Essentially he was bragging to the journo, thinking him to be a sports agent, that he was so influential he could spot-fix the game and came up with a few examples/instances from the past to prove so. He was essentially biggying himself up so he could land a big contract and there's no evidence or proof he did spot fix. This is what the article had to say... Link... http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/570524.html

err... consideration means reward, as per contracts act. Here consideration means the money he got to spot fix :(

[Ultimate_Game]

are u saying IndiaTV lied?according to them he took the money n then later bowled that no ball in that match

I wouldn't put it past India TV to do so to get more ratings. I do remember media 7 TV channels claiming that they had proof of top cricketers involved in fixing and coming out with ridiculous stories about top intl players being lured by girls (honeypot) and nothing really was proven :facepalm: If I'm not mistaken India TV simply said that they had paid Sudhindra to bowl a no-ball but they never proved it the way NOTW did for Paki trio. But if there's sufficient proof and Sudhindra did indeed spot-fix ban him for life I say, but my point is that you can't ban intl fixers for just 5 years and ban players who have done far less (Shalabh Srivastava) for the same period and ban a player for life (Sudhindra) when his crime hasn't even been proven beyond doubt. I simply need to have the same standards applied to everyone, and not single out upcoming and struggling no-name FC cricketers just because they are a soft target.

[saneindian]

If the BCCI was really interested, it would appoint a commision of enquiry and ask to examine these claims from all possible angles. Yes these players deserve what they have got, but is it just the tip of the iceberg? If Sudhindra's bragging about his ability to spot fix has been used to hand him the punishment, what about the claims he made that there are lots of players in domestic tournaments who do such acts 'chori chupke'? Shouldn't those claims be thoroughly examined? Also if Mishra, Bali and Yadav have been banned for unsubstantiated bragging, why not look into what they were saying against the franchises as well?

[Ultimate_Game]

err... consideration means reward, as per contracts act. Here consideration means the money he got to spot fix :(

But we didn't see any proof of such. All we heard was India TV claiming so but not in the way NOTW did. As my previous post says India TV (and other TV channels) make such allegations all the time but so far we are still waiting for proof. You can't ban someone for life unless it's proven beyond doubt. BCCI have taken the easy route and thrown the book at these domestic players as they are a soft target, but hat about IPL franchises? Almost every player mentioned their franchise - some saying they were paid lot more than what the contract stipulated. If you are going to punish the player, why not punish the franchise as well or at the very least investigate But as the peerless Srinivasan says IPL is run by "respectable" businessmen and these cricketers are just easy targets for BCCI to show they are doing something without really tackling the root cause. In all cases - Jadeja, Manish Pandey and now these players, it has always been players who have punished but the franchises have walked away free. Why should this be?

[Ultimate_Game]

If the BCCI was really interested' date= it would appoint a commision of enquiry and ask to examine these claims from all possible angles. Yes these players deserve what they have got, but is it just the tip of the iceberg? If Sudhindra's bragging about his ability to spot fix has been used to hand him the punishment, what about the claims he made that there are lots of players in domestic tournaments who do such acts 'chori chupke'? Shouldn't those claims be thoroughly examined? Also if Mishra, Bali and Yadav have been banned for unsubstantiated bragging, why not look into what they were saying against the franchises as well?

My point exactly. You can't just ban someone for life or 5 years without following a due process. I would look at all the allegations and also investigate IPL franchises for the "bragging" statements made by players. You can't simply have a meeting for a few days and come out banning players without even investigating all the allegations in detail.