Dhondy Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 No one is going to give Dravid stick for winning the series. What he does deserve stick for however, is p*ssing away a Test match when India had a 319 run lead. Tell me, how many times have you watched a team throw away the chance to win a Test match after scoring 664 and taking a 319 run lead ? It's bad captaincy. Can't forgive this man for giving away the chance of a Test match win for the sake of perceived safety. It's criminal, to be honest. Do hope he retires in the blaze of his faint-hearted glory and makes way for somebody more intrepid, somebody who doesn't look the gift horse of a 320 run lead in the mouth. Link to comment
yoda Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 ok yoda so you are saying he saved series win.. tell me how?? didnt we still have 4 wickets left?? is 12 off 92 balls was the best strategy?? was 500 runs in 110 overs the best possible target to give them?? 12 off 92 balls after being down 3 quick wickets while the other end is blazing way is "acceptable" strategy, given that the series is already in the bag. a quick dravid wicket, followed by a laxman/dhoni induced collapse could have meant all out for 100 giving eng 445 or so to win in more than a day and a half. he could have declared a few overs early with the target at about 475 at around tea. Link to comment
veer Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 yes, we could have accelerated and scored faster and declared earlier to give ouselves a better chance of a test win, but once you lose 3 quick 2nd innings wickets, the series suddenly becomes vulnerable again. then 12 in 40 balls would have been ideal.. but 12 in 90?? for someone like dravid, who has played 100 tests, thats just not right.. Link to comment
gs Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 then 12 in 40 balls would have been ideal.. but 12 in 90?? for someone like dravid' date=' who has played 100 tests, thats just not right..[/quote'] He just lost his marbles.... maybe had a brain fart.. that's all I can think of!! :confused_smile: Link to comment
beetle Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 ok yoda so you are saying he saved series win.. tell me how?? didnt we still have 4 wickets left?? is 12 off 92 balls was the best strategy?? was 500 runs in 110 overs the best possible target to give them?? Yes in hindsight we can say we had 4 wickets left.But haven't we all seen some batting coallpses? Link to comment
yoda Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 then 12 in 40 balls would have been ideal.. but 12 in 90?? for someone like dravid' date=' who has played 100 tests, thats just not right..[/quote'] given that he has played 100 tests, may be he knew better than us on how to bat in that situation? Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 No one is going to give Dravid stick for winning the series. What he does deserve stick for however, is p*ssing away a Test match when India had a 319 run lead. Tell me, how many times have you watched a team throw away the chance to win a Test match after scoring 664 and taking a 319 run lead ? It's bad captaincy. Tendulkar in 1999 Amdavad test against NZ. India 1-0 up in the 3rd test, lead by 275 runs. WIll not enforce follow-on on D4, sets a 400+ run target for D5. NZ play out the day - 252/2. He and Kapil were investigated for match fixing. Link to comment
Gambit Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 given that he has played 100 tests, may be he knew better than us on how to bat in that situation? By that logic, you shouldn't criticise anyone who has played international cricket because you haven't. Link to comment
Predator_05 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Tendulkar in 1999 Amdavad test against NZ. India 1-0 up in the 3rd test, lead by 275 runs. WIll not enforce follow-on on D4, sets a 400+ run target for D5. NZ play out the day - 252/2. He and Kapil were investigated for match fixing. See my post in the other thread where you wrote this. Link to comment
yoda Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 By that logic' date=' you shouldn't criticise anyone who has played international cricket because you haven't.[/quote'] true. that's why i simply ask some others to be replaced without criticizing specifics of their game, unless they have an established pattern. :giggle: Link to comment
feverpitch Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Could someone lend RD a pair of cojones? Link to comment
veer Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Yes in hindsight we can say we had 4 wickets left.But haven't we all seen some batting coallpses? okie then we should have gone with all out attack after making 420 or 450 if the target was 500.. I cant believe that our RR was better in 1st inning than 2nd inning.. and we made 450 more runs in 1st inning.. Wrong Strategy.. and partially, I blame SRT and SG for that.. they should have adviced him.. Link to comment
beetle Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Nah...he is the skipper and he should get the blame...... But not abuses.If people have a problem...ask for him to be removed from captaincy or the team....but why abuse? Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Ya we can win the pataudi series in this way but the message we sent to the world is that we are COWARD.we are afraid of Losing. Now watch out what Australia does with us in upcoming series. Not interested in messages but winning trophies. As I speak Dravid prepares to lift the Patudi trophy:haha: Link to comment
feverpitch Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Dravid thinks binary: Successfully managed to convert all 2-0 series wins to 1-0 series wins (@ WI, @ BD, @ Eng) Link to comment
feverpitch Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 that last post is btw a quip from a poster from another forum that i liked Link to comment
beetle Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 We all know that forum and all we can say is ...wahan jaa ke beedi jalaile.==>:D Link to comment
feverpitch Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 We all know that forum and all we can say is ...wahan jaa ke beedi jalaile.==>:D kyon behen? yahan aapko khujli ho raha hai kya? Link to comment
beetle Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 nahi bhaiya....hum bas apke fav forum ke fav poster ko pehchanneki koshish kar rahen hain.... Link to comment
feverpitch Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 nahi bhaiya....hum bas apke fav forum ke fav poster ko pehchanneki koshish kar rahen hain.... hint: fav forum: real world fav poster: not anyone with surname panikker, bhogle, vasu, vaidyanathan, premachandran... Link to comment
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