Sehwag1830 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I mean do you think he would have won so many GS , had Nadal and Djovic debuted and peaked earlier ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 same logic would appyl to sehwagh as well.. if veeru debuted before helmet age he wouldnt be hitting these many runs.. all relative.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vipin Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Yes. But he still was the best at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherhawkeye Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Its hard to answer...in fact, no one can say for a fact one way or another. I just wish he had more competition at his peak, so we could have more matches like the Wimbledon finals between Fed and Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Are you serious? The guy is still making semis and finals of every damn tournament and you still question his class. He was class apart. Yes Nadal and others did beat him, but they weren't good enough to stop him from winning. Also, he's very old now from Nadal and Djokovic, and yet he continues his dominance over most players. Let me see how Nadal or someone else is when they are of Federer's age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Are you serious? The guy is still making semis and finals of every damn tournament and you still question his class. He was class apart. Yes Nadal and others did beat him, but they weren't good enough to stop him from winning. Also, he's very old now from Nadal and Djokovic, and yet he continues his dominance over most players. Let me see how Nadal or someone else is when they are of Federer's age. this...what a crap question..i say had djokovik of this form played federer at his prime, he would not even had won these 3 recent slams..federer was soo dominant in his prime, he literally killed other players to win slams..he was madly winning slams.and what is prime of nadal? he has accounted his tally of 11 GS mailnly bcoz of FO. he is the best in clay no doubt..but after nadal won his first GS in 2005, since then federer has won 12 nd rafa 10... in his prime naal vs federer was the greatest nd only rivalry..just wait nd see after 5 years, how nadal nd joker would get out in 3rd or 4th rounds of GS..federer was just of a different league..class apart :hatsoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I think there is hardly any doubt about that. When Nadal really arrived (in 2008 when he was 21 only) on the scene Federer was at peak of his career, aged 26 (Nadal's current age) And since start of 2008, Federer has won only 4 grand slam. Out of these 4, 3 came in duration of 2009-10 when Nadal was struggling with his injuries. I admit that he has this amazing consistency to reach SF's and QF's and doesn't suffer upset defeats very often, but that makes you number 2 or 3 only. His overall numbers are hugely inflated because of depleted field he enjoyed between 2003-2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 this...what a crap question..i say had djokovik of this form played federer at his prime' date=' he would not even had won these 3 recent slams..federer was soo dominant in his prime, he literally killed other players to win slams..he was madly winning slams.and what is prime of nadal? he has accounted his tally of 11 GS mailnly bcoz of FO. he is the best in clay no doubt..[b']but after nadal won his first GS in 2005, since then federer has won 12 nd rafa 10... in his prime naal vs federer was the greatest nd only rivalry..just wait nd see after 5 years, how nadal nd joker would get out in 3rd or 4th rounds of GS..federer was just of a different league..class apart :hatsoff: Man, in 2005, Nadal was 18 year old kid. To compare him with Federer from that point is so unfair. Remember Federer had not won his first grand slam until he was 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidhoni Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 :WTF: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I think there is hardly any doubt about that. When Nadal really arrived (in 2008 when he was 21 only) on the scene Federer was at peak of his career, aged 26 (Nadal's current age) And since start of 2008, Federer has won only 4 grand slam. Out of these 4, 3 came in duration of 2009-10 when Nadal was struggling with his injuries. I admit that he has this amazing consistency to reach SF's and QF's and doesn't suffer upset defeats very often, but that makes you number 2 or 3 only. His overall numbers are hugely inflated because of depleted field he enjoyed between 2003-2007. federer had mono in 2008, it was a poor year by his standards, then he turned 28 next year, which is noway his prime year..wtf u say depleted field from 2003-07? i again say fdederer would have thrashed djokovik of now at his prime.. only naal has given him competition,bocz federer`s style of single backhand tennis suites him, he targets it relentlessly...and we`ll see how nadal nd djokovic play 4 years later when they`ll turn 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusarrived Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 if not for federer , Andy roddick would have won those slams ..so you know how poor the qulality of players where in that period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Djovic was cr@p earlier, only how has he gotten better. Nadal is a different story, yes he has had Federrer's numbers, but Nadal has been hit by Injuries also and hence couldn't compete in a few slams which Fed won with ease. Regarding competition, Federrer made them all look silly, barring Nadal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 May be may not be... but one thing is sure Federer started when Sampras and Agassi fading , the trinity of Hewitt,Roddick and Safin all are average at grandslams most of the times guess his record against these players is awsome lie 10:1 ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Man' date=' in 2005, Nadal was 18 year old kid. To compare him with Federer from that point is so unfair. Remember Federer had not won his first grand slam until he was 22.[/quote'] one thing u have to give into Fed is he reached in grandslam atleast semis in most tourneys from last 7/8 years :hatsoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
India-KXIP fan Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is this thread real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precambrian Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Bull crap.. If my uncle were a woman, he'd be my aunt... I am a Nadal fan... but its pahetic to dismiss Fedex's prowess, at his peak nobody could ouch him... A legend and well deserving of his GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos_rafa Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 He is a great player no doubt but yes, Fed didn't have the same kind of competition in the draws as it is now. There was a time when the only reason the 2nd draw played was to decide who would lose to Federer in the finals(barring french Open). He would have still won many GS but maybe,I feel maybe not as many as 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooda Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 He was lucky in that he was lucky to have been blessed with that incredible talent. Yes. Agree with Tics and Adi. Rafa and Novak will not have this kind of consistency when their late 20's and past 30- well Ill be surprised if they do. Unlike many I do not see myself in a Rafa or Fed camp- it is likely that Rafa will cross Feds GS mark- in fact given that Rafa has won a Davis cup and Olympic gold he has a strong case for being GOAT. I accept to a degree that Feds opponents at his peak were not in the class as they are today-Regardless, Federer at his best would have beaten Novak of today heck he ran him pretty close when they met last year and that was Novak at his peak. Anyone who watched Fed at his greatest in 03-07 and compares him to the player he has been over the last 2 or 3 years knows the difference. He is a genius, and the reason why Rafa and Novak have had to take their games to the Nth level. Let me put something else out there- had Rafa been about 15 years older do you think he would have won Wimbledon? No. The pace of the grass courts in the 90's was such that his game would not have stood a chance against the serve and volleyers of that era. So this hypothetical scenario game can be worked to not paint him in good light too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Are you serious? The guy is still making semis and finals of every damn tournament and you still question his class. He was class apart. Yes Nadal and others did beat him, but they weren't good enough to stop him from winning. Also, he's very old now from Nadal and Djokovic, and yet he continues his dominance over most players. Let me see how Nadal or someone else is when they are of Federer's age. ++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The irony is, you are estimating (relatively more) competitiveness of today - based on the reputation Federer brings, and he is still competing. If Fedex had retired already - with no Nadal vs Federer records to refer to - would you have said same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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