Old guy Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 watch his youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/sixtysymbols/videos
The Outsider Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 [Layman] So what does this discovery do? apart from that being a part of the textbook. What is it's practical use? I am asking coz if this was something like '"found the main protein which can kill HIV etc" then they can work on a new drug but what about this. I understand that no one would waste time' date= research and money to simply find a particle, does this change any existing theories etc [Layman] Akshayz >> AFAIK - whenever science was questioned on "something out of nothing", the reply was to do with expansion and contraction ( more like the what came first?, the chicken or the egg ) No direct "application", but the science and engineering which went behind it's discovery is going to have an impact on a lot of things in our lives.
The Outsider Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 wow! so close to solving world hunger I presume... World hunger has been solved from a scientific perspective many years back.
The Dark Horse Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 The Bose in the particle The Higgs bit we know. But the boson? Western science is overlooking India’s contribution With yesterday’s announcement of the latest findings in the search for the Higgs boson, the elusive particle is on everyone’s mind. This kind of fame is relatively rare, even for important scientific discoveries; but the Higgs boson has been called, or miscalled, the God particle, enabling it to pass into the realm of popular scientific lore, like the discovery of the smallpox vaccine, the structure of DNA, or the theory of relativity. It would be difficult for most people to understand its significance, just as it would be to comprehend the notion of relativity, but such problems are overcome by locating science in personalities as well as cultural and national traditions. The first thing that you and I know about the Higgs boson is that it’s named after Peter Higgs, a physicist at Edinburgh University who made the discovery — although the original insight, in one of those recurrent back stories of science, was Philip Anderson’s. Still, we have Higgs, and Edinburgh, and western civilisation to fall back on. The rest — “the Higgs boson is a hypothetical elementary particle predicted by the Standard Model of particle physics. It belongs to a class of particles known as bosons ...” — we needn’t worry too much about. But maybe we should worry just enough to ask, “What is a boson?” since the word tends to come up as soon as Higgs does. Is it, an ignoramus such myself would ask, akin to an atom or a molecule? It is, in fact, along with the fermion (named after Enrico Fermi), one of the two fundamental classes of subatomic particles. From Bose The word must surely have some European genealogy? In fact, “boson” is derived from Satyendra Nath Bose, an Indian physicist from Kolkata who, in 1924, realised that the statistical method used to analyse most 19th-century work on the thermal behaviour of gases was inadequate. He first sent off a paper on quantum statistics to a British journal, which turned it down. He then sent it to Albert Einstein, who immediately grasped its immense importance, and published it in a German journal. Bose’s innovation came to be known as the Bose-Einstein statistics, and became a basis of quantum mechanics. Einstein saw that it had profound implications for physics; that it had opened the way for this subatomic particle, which he named, after his Indian collaborator, “boson.” Still, science and the West are largely synonymous and coeval: they are words that have the same far-reaching meaning. Just as Van Gogh and Toulouse-Lautrec’s paintings digest the Japanese prints they were responding to so we don’t need to be aware of Japanese prints when viewing the post-impressionists, western science is pristine, and bears no mark of what’s outside itself. Other Indian contributions The last Indian scientific discovery that is universally acknowledged is the zero. Indians are very strong at maths, and the only modern Indian who’s remotely part of the western mythology of science is Srinivasa Ramanujan, equally well known for his Hindu idiosyncrasies and his agonised stay in Cambridge as he is for his mathematical genius. Indians can be excellent geeks, as demonstrated by the tongue-tied astrophysicist Raj Koothrappalli in the U.S. sitcom Big Bang Theory; but the Nobel prize can only be aspired to by Sheldon Cooper, the super-geek and genius in the series, for whom Raj’s country of origin is a diverting enigma, and miles away from the popular myth of science on which Big Bang Theory is dependent. Bose didn’t get the Nobel Prize; nor did his contemporary and namesake, J.C. Bose, whose contribution to the fashioning of the wireless predates Marconi’s. The only Indian scientist to get a Nobel Prize is the physicist C.V. Raman, for his work on light at Kolkata University. Other Indians have had to become Americans to get the award. Conditions have always been inimical to science in India, from colonial times to the present day; and despite that, its contributions have occasionally been huge. Yet non-western science (an ugly label engendered by the exclusive nature of western popular imagination) is yet to find its Rosalind Franklin, its symbol of paradoxical success. Unlike Franklin, however, these scientists were never in a race that they lost; they simply came from another planet. (Amit Chaudhuri is professor of contemporary literature at the University of East Anglia and author of The Immortals.) — © Guardian Newspapers Limited, 2012 http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article3602966.ece
The Outsider Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 ^ What a load of self pitying bull crap! I am yet to meet a Physicist who does not acknowledge the importance of Bose's work, but the fact is that this discovery has little to do with the "Boson" part in the Higgs Boson.
Crookbond Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 I was just going to pose this question - Why is his name being repeatedly taken then? I mean why name after him?
EnterTheVoid Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Higgs should really win the Nobel prize now, he was able to predict using pen and paper what was proven using the most sophisticated technology forty years later. Whilst the Nobel committee are it, they might as well given posthumous honour to Bose as well.
Rajiv Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 there must be something in return when they are spending billions of dollors for this experiment Hmm, perhaps some app from Apple..then droid copies it
bulbul Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Hmm' date=' perhaps some app from Apple..then droid copies it[/quote'] 2 seperate threads are running in full flow for that :winky: let us leave this to scientists
Crookbond Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 ^ Isn't it a correct analogy - 'cocktail party' ? :hmmm:
Sidhoni Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 ^ Isn't it a correct analogy - 'cocktail party' ? :hmmm: Yes. Just found the example hilarious. SRK-obsessed :hehe:
Crookbond Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 Yes. Just found the example hilarious. SRK-obsessed :hehe: Great Chu*** these people !
bulbul Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 :hysterical: Copy cats read somewhere else they used George clooney's name in similer article :cantstop:
DomainK Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 :hysterical: That explains it. So Higgs and Boson are two jobless perverts attracted to south Indian heroines? That's why south Indian heroines have such heavy mass?? Where as north Indian heroines attract no Hiss Boson at all?
India-KXIP fan Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 guess they call it God particle because it is the basis for origin [scientists think..i don't know] Called it god particle as a joke. Many people thought it was god lol. Great discovery it's what gives mass to parts of atoms am I right. Chit is confusing. Edit: O I get it, so it confirms that standard model of physics is correct. Right?
Crookbond Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 DK - What did you have for tea man? Btw- North Indian heroines have a better "bosom" than South Indians.
bulbul Posted July 5, 2012 Posted July 5, 2012 DK - What did you have for tea man? Btw- North Indian heroines have a better "bosom" than South Indians. Apple :--D
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