Crookbond Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 ^ Ashwin does have question marks against good players. Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 ^ Ashwin does have question marks against good players. And Bhajji doesnt? Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 And Bhajji doesnt? When did I say Bhajji is a better choice? :dontknow: I just mentioned about Ashwin. We are searching for a better spinner than Bhajji and Ashwin. Probably, Kachra from Lagaan can help :hmmm: Link to comment
Lord Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 When did I say Bhajji is a better choice? :dontknow: I just mentioned about Ashwin. We are searching for a better spinner than Bhajji and Ashwin. Probably, Kachra from Lagaan can help :hmmm: be careful.in modern times,hes known as Piyush Chawla Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 be careful.in modern times' date='hes known as Piyush Chawla[/quote'] :headshake: Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 When did I say Bhajji is a better choice? :dontknow: I just mentioned about Ashwin. We are searching for a better spinner than Bhajji and Ashwin. Probably, Kachra from Lagaan can help :hmmm: Ashwin done better than what Kumble and Bhajji had done on their first tour to Australia. He will improve as he plays more. He is still a 7 match old rookie. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Ashwin done better than what Kumble and Bhajji had done on their first tour to Australia. He will improve as he plays more. He is still a 7 match old rookie. That's exactly my point RKT - he has not yet proven himself against good teams PERIOD. I don't want people to call him the Ashwin-ator! Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 That's exactly my point RKT - he has not yet proven himself against good teams PERIOD. I don't want people to call him the Ashwin-ator! No. Not yet. At the end of this whole 10 tests season, we will know where he stands. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 ^ Ashwin does have question marks against good players. Who are they English? They struggle against Rahman,Kaddish in spinning conditions Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Who are they English? They struggle against Rahman' date='Kaddish in spinning conditions[/quote'] Australia? Link to comment
Spiderguy252 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Good players are not the guys who come to India. By good players he meant spinning it and taking wickets on overseas pitches like Harbhajan did in Wellington, Durban, etc. Everybody except the Sri Lankans struggles on our spinning pitches anyway. Link to comment
J P K Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 ht4SCDOZsLA&feature=player_embedded harby stopped flighting the ball after this :(( Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 There was one ball in this tour which drifted and whizzed past the bat. I referred it earlier in this thread too. I am sure I saw it on Youtube but I am unable to dig it out. Any help please? Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Australia? Okay.. reason is finger spinners are rarely effective in Australia due to the nature of the surface. Murali literally tried everything there.He struggled big time. Ajmal struggled there. Leggies generally thrive there. Even Chandana did well. Another point is what kind of role he plays there. Seamers have to do bulk of the work, Spinners are largely support casts there. Our seamers didn't exactly provide great breakthroughs for spinners to exploit it. Link to comment
J P K Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 There was one ball in this tour which drifted and whizzed past the bat. I referred it earlier in this thread too. I am sure I saw it on Youtube but I am unable to dig it out. Any help please? give some details bro was that a wicket taking delivery ? against which batsman ? test or odi or t20 ? Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Okay.. reason is finger spinners are rarely effective in Australia due to the nature of the surface. Murali literally tried everything there.He struggled big time. Ajmal struggled there. Leggies generally thrive there. Even Chandana did well. Another point is what kind of role he plays there. Seamers have to do bulk of the work, Spinners are largely support casts there. Our seamers didn't exactly provide great breakthroughs for spinners to exploit it. I agree which means there are still question marks. It is not a given he will succeed and also not a given he will not succeed - which was my point anyway. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 give some details bro was that a wicket taking delivery ? against which batsman ? test or odi or t20 ? Tests and I guess it was a left hand batsman - Jesse Ryder perhaps, not sure. :sniffle: Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Tests and I guess it was a left hand batsman - Jesse Ryder perhaps' date=' not sure. :sniffle:[/quote'] They have videos of this tour around the internet. Might wanna give that a search. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I agree which means there are still question marks. It is not a given he will succeed and also not a given he will not succeed - which was my point anyway. As long as he does well on slightly helpful surfaces i am fine. He is a thinking bowler. Not all spinners are going to be Murali. If you ask me who are the quality batsmen against spinners outside subcontinent player they are certainly not English or Australians. It will be south africans. Given his variations and his ability to think as a bowler he will do well in most places. Ofcourse there is a factor that batsmen start reading him better which he has to overcome. At the moment i am happy to see a bowler "running through" a side. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 As long as he does well on slightly helpful surfaces i am fine. He is a thinking bowler. Not all spinners are going to be Murali. If you ask me who are the quality batsmen against spinners outside subcontinent player they are certainly not English or Australians. It will be south africans. Given his variations and his ability to think as a bowler he will do well in most places. Ofcourse there is a factor that batsmen start reading him better which he has to overcome. At the moment i am happy to see a bowler "running through" a side. I think even in India, SA will challenge him to the limit. They have negated Harbhajan time & again - especially Kallis. The only gripe I have with Ashwin is that he's too lazy in his action. If only he puts in a little bit more, he will get more purchase out of the wicket & more value for his bowling! It's just a simple correction required in my books. He is definitely good as of now but I will hold my horses till I pass a definitive judgment. Link to comment
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