The Outsider Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 This is a very subjective thing. I feel it's fine to "Mankad" a batsman if he is genuinely trying to take advantage of the extra step or two in order to run through to the other end. However, if it's a casual stroll with no intention of gaining an advantage the batsman should be warned even if there is no rule to say so. The law does say about taking or attempting to take a run. In this case any step is an advantage to the batsman, but whether he did it deliberately is a judgment of the bowler. Walsh's warning to Qadir is one of the most memorable moments of cricket in the '87 WC.
Arif654 Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 This is a very subjective thing. I feel it's fine to "Mankad" a batsman if he is genuinely trying to take advantage of the extra step or two in order to run through to the other end. However, if it's a casual stroll with no intention of gaining an advantage the batsman should be warned even if there is no rule to say so. The law does say about taking or attempting to take a run. In this case any step is an advantage to the batsman, but whether he did it deliberately is a judgment of the bowler. Walsh's warning to Qadir is one of the most memorable moments of cricket in the '87 WC.[/QUOTE] :hatsoff: I read about that, one of the greatest acts of sportsmanship ever in cricket. I always found a problem with criticizing players for doing something that's within the rulebook, Murali kartik was well within his rights to do that, even though it might be in poor taste do that without warning the batsman. There is nothing to complain about if he actually did warn the batsman prior to the incident.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Kartik did the right thing. He warned the batsman, even though he didn't have to, and if the batsman is stupid enough to back up despite the warning he deserves to be run out.
jind Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 For those that keep on talking about that Kartik should've given a warning, if you guys read the OP, the tweet by him clarifies that he did warn. But I don't even know why he should give a warning.. # Does a fielder say to a batsman when he's about to take a catch that oh wait, here's your first warning: you're hitting the ball for me to catch # Or a keeper at the time of a stumping give the batsman a warning : hey man you're going out of your crease and next time I'm going to stump you etc, :hysterical::hysterical:
Executioner Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Sprit of the game my butt! Whats the spirit of the game? leaving the crease even before the bowler delivers the ball? I back entire surrey team.
Sooda Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Tresco had to come down to placate a supporter, boy that supporter really cared that much...!
CoverDrive Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 so bowler abusing batsmen is in the spirit of the cricket fielders appealing for non-existing edge or LBW is fine batsmen staying after clear edge is also in the spirit but a genuine wicket is outside the spirit
achilles Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Its funny to see the British to be lecturing people about the "spirit of cricket". According to them, Sledging is within the spirit of cricket. Ball tampering with mints is the spirit of cricket. Blocking people and claiming runouts is within the spirit of cricket. But, when all this is done against them, it is not.
VRV Singh Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Looks like Mooli Kartik's whole team have deserted him on this matter. Captain has said today he should have withdrawn the appeal :cantstop: I am trying to visualise the toff who had to be placated by Trescothick. Crazy fool.
Lord Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Looks like Mooli Kartik's whole team have deserted him on this matter. Captain has said today he should have withdrawn the appeal :cantstop: thats captains job,no?
VRV Singh Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 thats captains job' date='no?[/quote'] Yeah, Gareth Batty (Surrey capt) says he regrets upholding the appeal and apologised
Lord Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 ^ so hes apologising like Collingwood,after the event:cantstop:
Crookbond Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 So, now an apology should be made before the event has happened! :hysterical: I apologize for kicking your a** :hehe:
achilles Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 ^ so hes apologising like Collingwood' date='after the event:cantstop:[/quote'] qi8Htu3o3zI
Lord Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 So, now an apology should be made before the event has happened! :hysterical: I apologize for kicking your a** :hehe: avoid the incident or stick to ur decision:dontknow:
VRV Singh Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 It sounds like it was a bit of a grudge match for Mooli Kartik. Probably not the most endearing chap in the world. But all this reaction with the toffs getting their pitchforks out, and this usage of the 'shpirit of cricket' at one's convenience is funny. Kartik did not do anything wrong (especially given a warning) and it all boils down to trying to exonerate a batsman who is clearly a bit of a dopey git. But now I suppose Mooli Kartik will be hated by the whole county circuit
Crookbond Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 avoid the incident or stick to ur decision:dontknow: Why? Is there not a possibility that you didn't think you made a mistake earlier and now you regret it? What is this BS snobby attitude that makes you think any person is incorrigible? It's OK to accept that you made an error of judgment - no big deal. I remember a Hindi quote 6 foot zameen ke niche par naak upar
achilles Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Why? Is there not a possibility that you didn't think you made a mistake earlier and now you regret it? What is this BS snobby attitude that makes you think any person is incorrigible? It's OK to accept that you made an error of judgment - no big deal. I remember a Hindi quote 6 foot zameen ke niche par naak upar I think Lord has called it as any logical man would see it.
Crookbond Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 ^ This is NOT to do with this incident. I think the captain should stick to it. What is disturbing to me is the fact that if one changes his decision due to lack of foresight that person is called an idiot. Sorry - not true. Personal opinion on this incident - I see no problem with the appeal and the decision. The bowler does not need to warn but Kartik behaved like a gentleman and did warn. In fact, if anything Murali Kartik has upheld the spirit of the game while the opposition team has not.
achilles Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 ^ This is NOT to do with this incident. I think the captain should stick to it. What is disturbing to me is the fact that if one changes his decision due to lack of foresight that person is called an idiot. Sorry - not true. Personal opinion on this incident - I see no problem with the appeal and the decision. The bowler does not need to warn but Kartik behaved like a gentleman and did warn. In fact, if anything Murali Kartik has upheld the spirit of the game while the opposition team has not. Maybe Batty didn't have the courage to stand by the decision he made, which is quite common these days.
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