vvvslaxman Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 I dont care who lost or won. I supported Obama during McCain/Palin, but I did not know a lot about Obama that I do now. Can you refute the facts mentioned? why did you support Obama then? Because all these soundbytes came out even in the last election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I dont care who lost or won. I supported Obama during McCain/Palin, but I did not know a lot about Obama that I do now. Can you refute the facts mentioned? Why ????? You fell for the lame stream media asking gotcha questions to the great governer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 ^ Any you are joe the plumber :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangnam style Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I was naive and uninformed. I fell for Obama's charisma/likeability and his promise of hope/change. Considering, at one point I thought the world would be a better place without India and Israel, I was in the right camp by siding with Obama. A chain of events in my life have helped me see things differently and have since realized I was completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 ^ Any you are joe the plumber :cantstop: Maybe Grover, the Norquist :--D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 some trolls in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 You support murder :ohmy: The only places where Sharia law exists is where the President apologizes for America :beee: http://www.usnews.com/dbimages/master/10457/FE_DA_090409publicopinion.jpg BTW US Constitution is based on Christian values, something communists will never understand :orderorder: yea , we all must follow bible page by page, stop teaching evolution and for all other people to convert to Christianity. I shouldnt have a planned family cuz Romney's religion doesnt think its appropriate :yay: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Running a fund and founding a company are different things. I can give Obama a pass on his incompetence and crony politics, but I cant give him one for Sedition. Obama's close buddy (Bill Ayers) is a terrorist, his pastor for many years (Rev. Wright) is an America hater, his childhood mentor (Frank Davis) was on FBI watchlist, he has marched with a racist supremacist group (black panthers), supports Muslim Brotherhood and Arab Spring (Sharia Law is anti-freedom). He killed Osama while your Jesus 2.0 was against going into Pakistan or spending money on finding Osama. And you shouldnt even talk about racism if you support Republicans .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 some trolls in this thread. TBH I think no one in right mind can support the R's (Romney, Ryan and Republicans) I think everybody is just having fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 1. Pulled country out of potentially the worst financial mess of all time 2. Got the hell out of Iraq 3. Got Bin Laden 4. Health care law 5. Bailed out auto industry preventing collapse of the industry's supply chain Yes, poor record indeed. In the meantime, let's see what Repubs have managed to do: 1. Left the biggest financial mess in history for the next guy to cleanup 2. Ensured the country's credit rating was cut by refusing to work with the President to come up with a meaningful debt plan. 3. Wanted auto-industry to die 4. Nominated Mitt Romney :hahaha: Well IMO bush has a better record, 1. Prevented a depression by passing tarp. 2. got 58 straight months of consecutive job growth after inheriting the internet bubble left by clinton by giving working people tax cuts. 3.Protected american jobs by putting tarrifs on evil canadian lumber. 4 unemployment rate under 5 until democrats won the senate and congress and ruined america. 5. kept america safe after clintons failed efforts to get bin laden after the attack in the early 90s led to 9/11. 6. killed one of the worst dictators in history. 7. Gave seniors medicare part d. Being a partisan propagandist is easy. Doesn't change the fact that Obama sucks as president as did bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 TBH I think no one in right mind can support the R's (Romney' date=' Ryan and Republicans) I think everybody is just having fun[/quote'] Not really, they're not ideal but they're much better than the current socialists. It would have been great if Americans went back to their conservative principles & voted for a Bachmann/Santorum or Cain/Perry nomination, something on those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Well IMO bush has a better record, 1. Prevented a depression by passing tarp. 2. got 58 straight months of consecutive job growth after inheriting the internet bubble left by clinton by giving working people tax cuts. 3.Protected american jobs by putting tarrifs on evil canadian lumber. 4 unemployment rate under 5 until democrats won the senate and congress and ruined america. 5. kept america safe after clintons failed efforts to get bin laden after the attack in the early 90s led to 9/11. 6. killed one of the worst dictators in history. 7. Gave seniors medicare part d. Being a partisan propagandist is easy. Doesn't change the fact that Obama sucks as president as did bush. I understand Rubin doesn't agree that the Iraq war was a catastrophic mistake. But even someone with her neoconservative worldview should recognize all of the following as grave errors: The failure to take terrorism more seriously prior to 9/11. The failure to heed the expert planning that ought to have guided the American presence in Iraq after the initial invasion. The failure to bring Osama bin Laden to justice. The failure to address the deficit -- indeed, the pursuit of policies that made it substantially worse. The failure to address the economic conditions and regulatory policies that ended in the housing bubble and financial crisis. The failure to institute safeguards that would have prevented the morally repugnant and strategically catastrophic prisoner abuse scandals. The failure to institute safeguards that would have prevented so many innocents from being thrown into the prison at Guantanamo Bay. The seven years spent in Afghanistan without much to show for it. The attempt to appoint Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. My own list of Bush Administration mistakes is much longer, but even controlling for the dramatically different ideological perspective of neoconservatives, Rubin's picks betray a profound failure to grapple with a presidency that needlessly weakened America in multiple ways. .......... This is a list from conservative lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Not really' date=' they're not ideal but they're much better than the current socialists. It would have been great if Americans went back to their conservative principles & voted for a Bachmann/[b']Santorum or Cain/Perry nomination, something on those lines. B->B->B->B-> I think we should close this thread, I dont think there is a way to argue when someone mentions Santorum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangnam style Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 He killed Osama while your Jesus 2.0 was against going into Pakistan or spending money on finding Osama. And you shouldnt even talk about racism if you support Republicans .. Obama killed Osama, so all mentioned below should be ignored. :giggle: Obama's close buddy (Bill Ayers) is a terrorist, his pastor for many years (Rev. Wright) is an America hater, his childhood mentor (Frank Davis) was on FBI watchlist, he has marched with a racist supremacist group (black panthers), supports Muslim Brotherhood and Arab Spring (Sharia Law is anti-freedom). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 1. Pulled country out of potentially the worst financial mess of all time 2. Got the hell out of Iraq 3. Got Bin Laden 4. Health care law 5. Bailed out auto industry preventing collapse of the industry's supply chain Not really true completely 1) Still ongoing, effects are still there 2) Good, but they have yet to react strongly on "Pakistan" 3) This the worst point, he deserves no real credit for that. Intelligence and years of hard work paid off. 4) Debatable as still unproven 5) Not sure Although, I myself think Obama is the better one but he has had his mistakes. Imo, it's just a battle in choosing the least worse president for the country . This is where Obama wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Not really true completely 1) Still ongoing, effects are still there 2) Good, but they have yet to react strongly on "Pakistan" 3) This the worst point, he deserves no real credit for that. Intelligence and years of hard work paid off. 4) Debatable as still unproven 5) Not sure Although, I myself think Obama is the better one but he has had his mistakes. Imo, it's just a battle in choosing the least worse president for the country . This is where Obama wins. Is always the case in politics. You choose the lesser of the evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think we should close this thread' date=' I dont think there is a way to argue when someone mentions Santorum[/quote'] True dat, conservatives won the debate hands down, time to close the thread. I am surprised why mentioning a moderate candidate like Santorum should shake things when you openly support candidates with Maoist ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Not really true completely 3) This the worst point, he deserves no real credit for that. Intelligence and years of hard work paid off. What should he do, lead the Seal team in front and put the first bullet on Osama's forehead, to get credit? Of course, the intelligence etc gets real credit, but the go-ahead to the operation comes all the way from the top. They violated a foreign country's sovereignty. Any loss of American life in the operation would have caused an uproar and he risked his presidency for this. It was his Iraq war and a ticket to his second term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 What should he do, lead the Seal team in front and put the first bullet on Osama's forehead, to get credit? WTF. Giving Obama credit for killing Bin Laden is the exact same thing as Manmohan asking for credit in capturing Kasab. We all would be laughing if the latter had occurred. And you know what even the Obama team have realized it. At the beginning of this election campaign, they did start by putting the Osama killing as their key point but have now only diminished it totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 WTF. Giving Obama credit for killing Bin Laden is the exact same thing as Manmohan asking for credit in capturing Kasab. We all would be laughing if the latter had occurred. And you know what even the Obama team have realized it. At the beginning of this election campaign, they did start by putting the Osama killing as their key point but have now only diminished it totally. If they had raided a compound in Karachi and captured Kasab, certainly MMS would take credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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