Ranji Trophy 2012-13

[India-KXIP fan]

sandeep is good enough imo yes he bowls in 130 s but amount of swing he gets with that makes him handful he can easily increase his pace and add 5 km/h

Maybe, do bowlers get faster after 19 though? I know Irfan and Ishant are about the same pace they were when they were 18. 130 is just not good enough for an International bowler unless your somewhere like England where PK succeeded with his swing.

[Old guy]

Maybe' date=' do bowlers get faster after 19 though? I know Irfan and Ishant are about the same pace they were when they were 18. 130 is just not good enough for an International bowler unless your somewhere like England where PK succeeded with his swing.[/quote'] yes, a lot !

[rkt.india]

Maybe' date=' do bowlers get faster after 19 though? I know Irfan and Ishant are about the same pace they were when they were 18. 130 is just not good enough for an International bowler unless your somewhere like England where PK succeeded with his swing.[/quote'] Siddarth Kaul is certainly quicker than Sandeep was quicker even in U19 WC in 2008. Sandeep is basically a swing bowler, Siddarth is a hit the deck bowler. Bowler's pace increase till age 24-25. Take an example of Lee and Akhtar or Tait or a Styen. They increased their pace as their body grew up, muscles and strength built up.

[India-KXIP fan]

yes' date=' a lot ![/quote'] Hopefully he does. Some don't though.

[rkt.india]

Tried a few times to upload video of Ishwar and his speeds, somehow I cannot load it, here is the link, he is promising

He has potential. I like his runup. Most Indian fast bowles do not have good runup. He has farily long and mooth runup, gives him momentum, his action can still be refined bit more so that he can use his left arm more and gain more pace.

[Trundler27]

Shami Ahmed Ishwar Pandey Mohit Sharma Sandeep Sharma Siddarth Kaul Pawan Suyal Shadab Nazar Rishi Dhwan-potential alrounder Rise of some young upcoming fast bowlers is a good thing for India but if only selectors want to try new blood rather than just tried and tested failures.

Seriously man.... We can have a bench just like the aussies if the freaking selectors groom the right type of players in our A team and national side.... Looking at some of these names I just blame the selectors even more everytime we field a pathetic bowling attack in an international game with guyz like balaji and ishant making comebacks!!

[MCcricket]

Manpreet Gony, Pankaj Singh, Pawan Suyal, Shami are our best domestic bowlers ,all have pace and can touch 140 k, experience and have stats to support they are above their counter parts, they should be on selectors radar immediately. Pankaj and Manpreet are very tall about 6 6" and 6 5" respectively , have a strong action, get good bounce, can bowl longer spells, have a lot of experience now as they are about 27 years of age, bowl around 135 to 142 k regularly, have a very good S/R AND AVE for last four years, both can move the ball away, they should be in the Indian test squad, after Umesh , Zak, Aaron, they should be the next two and Ishant after them. Pawan Suyal, Shami are both skillful bowlers and slightly faster, can touch 145 k, move the ball very well, have very good actions, most wickets they get are lbw or bowls, both have phenomenal figures, clearly are devastating bowlers, should definitely graduate to play a tours and get a chance in the Indian side. F Bhaja, I Pandey, Veer, S Sharma, A Nechim, Anwar, S Nazar , R Dhawan, Awana, Wagh, Imtiyaz Ahmed are bowlers who should be under the NCA umbrella where they can be monitored, improve and gain more experience. I don't see things improving much under the presen setup, talent is not being looked after, same recycled players in the loop, Dhoni, Fletcher, Dawes, BCCI MGMT, SELECTORS HAVE FAILED IN BUILDING THE FRINGE PLAYERS AND GIVING CHANCES TO POTENTIALLY GOOD BOWLERS AND BATTERS. This will be the legacy that Cheeka and co, Dhoni, Fletcher will leave behind, our team keeps failing for last 2 years and we haven't seen any changes.

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Manpreet Gony, Pankaj Singh, Pawan Suyal, Shami are our best domestic bowlers ,all have pace and can touch 140 k, experience and have stats to support they are above their counter parts, they should be on selectors radar immediately. Pankaj and Manpreet are very tall about 6 6" and 6 5" respectively , have a strong action, get good bounce, can bowl longer spells, have a lot of experience now as they are about 27 years of age, bowl around 135 to 142 k regularly, have a very good S/R AND AVE for last four years, both can move the ball away, they should be in the Indian test squad, after Umesh , Zak, Aaron, they should be the next two and Ishant after them. Pawan Suyal, Shami are both skillful bowlers and slightly faster, can touch 145 k, move the ball very well, have very good actions, most wickets they get are lbw or bowls, both have phenomenal figures, clearly are devastating bowlers, should definitely graduate to play a tours and get a chance in the Indian side. F Bhaja, I Pandey, Veer, S Sharma, A Nechim, Anwar, S Nazar , R Dhawan, Awana, Wagh, Imtiyaz Ahmed are bowlers who should be under the NCA umbrella where they can be monitored, improve and gain more experience. I don't see things improving much under the presen setup, talent is not being looked after, same recycled players in the loop, Dhoni, Fletcher, Dawes, BCCI MGMT, SELECTORS HAVE FAILED IN BUILDING THE FRINGE PLAYERS AND GIVING CHANCES TO POTENTIALLY GOOD BOWLERS AND BATTERS. This will be the legacy that Cheeka and co, Dhoni, Fletcher will leave behind, our team keeps failing for last 2 years and we haven't seen any changes.

I am not sure about pankaj singh and gony maintaining their pace .I have never been able to watch shami live except some videos.But his performances and stats look good he should be in the plane to southafrica.Regarding suyal i have not seen him.

[Old guy]

I am not sure about pankaj singh and gony maintaining their pace .I have never been able to watch shami live except some videos.But his performances and stats look good he should be in the plane to southafrica.Regarding suyal i have not seen him.

dont care about pace of pankaj he is accurate ,tall and gets nip of deck and movies ball u cant ask for more when dinda is gonna make test debut for u and vinay kumar bowled at perth about sham i i wasl ucky to see him live track was helpful but he out bowled dinda with ease he has something about him ...swings the ball ..about pace im not sure but he is no tundler and decent enough for international level i think he can move ball both ways and bowls good test match length..more importantly he is in scheme of things nad has done well on a tours (got injured in nz ) now came back and got 7 wicket haul including a hattrick i get it tht its jsut against domestic side but ishant did not even do that on helpful kotla track where rookie bowler got fifer against delhi batsmen...

[rkt.india]

I am not sure about pankaj singh and gony maintaining their pace .I have never been able to watch shami live except some videos.But his performances and stats look good he should be in the plane to southafrica.Regarding suyal i have not seen him.

Pankaj consistently maintaind his pace over 130 in the first ranji game which was live against Bengal and he took 9 wickets in that, clocked fastest at 141. He has improved his run up and action with the help of Mayrick Pringle which helped him gain pace.

[vivek_singh3187]

Pawan Suyal has an added advantage over the others that he is a left arm pacer...so he adds variety, and can become the perfect replacement for Zak. Pankaj has the ability to bowl long spells without tiring, which makes him a good Test Prospect

[MCcricket]

I am not sure about pankaj singh and gony maintaining their pace .I have never been able to watch shami live except some videos.But his performances and stats look good he should be in the plane to southafrica.Regarding suyal i have not seen him.

I have seen quite a few 4 day games with these two guys bowling, Pankaj presently and Gony easily bowl around 135 to 136 k and in their spells also touch 140 and pass that. Shami has pace, not as fast as Umesh but similar to what Zak bowled when he made debut between 138 to 144 k, Suyal per Prabhakar and Akash has pace might be in the same category as Shami. Ishant, Umesh, Aaron obviously are the three fastest bowlers in India who can bowl from mid 140 to mid 155 at their best, and that is serious fast

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I have seen quite a few 4 day games with these two guys bowling' date=' Pankaj presently and Gony easily bowl around 135 to 136 k and in their spells also touch 140 and pass that. Shami has pace, not as fast as Umesh but similar to what Zak bowled when he made debut between 138 to 144 k, Suyal per Prabhakar and Akash has pace might be in the same category as Shami. Ishant, Umesh, Aaron obviously are the three fastest bowlers in India who can bowl from mid 140 to mid 155 at their best, and that is serious fast[/quote'] In tests zak was not 138-144 when he debut ,It was in odis.Actually zak fastest spell i have seen is in 2008 nagpur test where he was consistently over 140ks in a spell. Does suyal swing it? as we need a leftarmer surely .these days lefthand batsman hate leftarmers.

[rkt.india]

In tests zak was not 138-144 when he debut ,It was in odis.Actually zak fastest spell i have seen is in 2008 nagpur test where he was consistently over 140ks in a spell. Does suyal swing it? as we need a leftarmer surely .these days lefthand batsman hate leftarmers.

Yes, He has a good indipper.

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J&K cricket crisis worsens after talks with disgruntled players fail

he crisis in Jammu and Kashmir cricket has taken a turn for the worse with players from the Kashmir region refusing to represent the state team. The players from the Kashmir region had walked out from the last match alleging bias against the region in favour of players from Jammu. The Jammu and Kashmir Cricket Association has been in talks with the disgruntled players since but those talks have now broken down. So a team made up of players only from the Jammu region will now travel to Guwahati to take on Assam in their next Ranji Trophy match.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/jk-cricket-crisis-worsens-after-talks-with-disgruntled-players-fail/308045-5-23.html

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Yes' date=' He has a good indipper.[/quote'] Leftarmer who has can swing it in is great and if he is quick then he should be tired as after zak and r.p sigh gone ,we need a leftarmer.

[rkt.india]

Leftarmer who has can swing it in is great and if he is quick then he should be tired as after zak and r.p sigh gone ' date='we need a leftarmer.[/quote'] He is certainly one of the sharpest left arm pacer in India, certainly 135+.

[MCcricket]

He is certainly one of the sharpest left arm pacer in India' date=' certainly 135+.[/quote'] Suyal is a strong guy with a very good action, he should be getting good seam and bounce despite not being very tall, Unfortunately selectors and coach captain have been really bad in identifying , grooming and getting new talent in, this is Dhoni's legacy as far as I am concerned, Dawes, Fletcher have no interest at all as far as what talent we have, haven't ever heard of them watching any domestic games.

[rkt.india]

Baroda vs UP match will be live on ESPN from tommorrow.:two_thumbs_up:

[nevada]

How is Deepak Chahar doing these days? Haven't heard much about him after his sensational dismantling job against Hyderabad.