rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Malcolm Marshall - top of the list for me. Amazingly, he didn't get me out in international cricket. I played a fair bit against him - Surrey v Hampshire, and also in both one-day internationals and Test match cricket. I made my debut against him back in 1990, at Sabina Park. Marshall had everything - high-quality quick bowler, everything bar the actual height. He was under six feet, but he was one of the quickest bowlers I ever faced. He swung the ball both ways with great control. Because of his height, he pitched the ball up that little bit further, whereas most quick bowlers bowled that little bit shorter, and you hang back on the back foot more. But Marshall asked questions - do you get forward, do you get back, and if he saw you coming too far forward, then he had a great bouncer as well, not just on pace but the direction. It was always there to hit you. So you had to make sure that you got out of the way. And if you are a hooker or puller then you had to make sure you were on your game as well, or else he would clean you up. Marshall, to me, was a complete quick bowler. I played him on my debut at Sabina Park. I played against him on a very quick pitch at The Oval, the final Test match of the series in 1991, when Curtly Ambrose played as well and ran in and bowled a rapid spell there. For me, Marshall was an absolute master. A real champion, both as a person and as a player. But with the ball in his hand he was fearsome and absolute top-quality. Marshall, to me, would be the great quick bowler of the period I played against. He was the best bowler I played against. I was just starting off my international career when he was finishing. I had seen him play a lot on TV as well. He was part of that great West Indies side. To me, Marshall is what quick bowling is all about, and it was a challenge, a challenge I did my best at. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/586597.html Link to comment
Crookbond Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 He swung the ball both ways with great control. Because of his height, he pitched the ball up that little bit further, whereas most quick bowlers bowled that little bit shorter, and you hang back on the back foot more. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Though I think even Marshall would have been thrashed in this T20 era. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Though I think even Marshall would have been thrashed in this T20 era. Why do you think so? He looked like McGrath (great accuracy) with speed, at least that's what appeared to me from videos that I have seen. People say that he could skid the ball. Those qualities would be good enough to trouble batsmen in T20. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Why do you think so? He looked like McGrath (great accuracy) with speed' date=' at least that's what appeared to me from videos that I have seen. People say that he could skid the ball. Those qualities would be good enough to trouble batsmen in T20.[/quote'] So even McGrath. There is no bowler spared in T20 cricket. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 So even McGrath. There is no bowler spared in T20 cricket. Yes, but some do better than others. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Why do you think so? He looked like McGrath (great accuracy) with speed' date=' at least that's what appeared to me from videos that I have seen. People say that he could skid the ball. Those qualities would be good enough to trouble batsmen in T20.[/quote'] Yes. Mcgrath did well in T20, right up until retirement. Link to comment
Old guy Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 how can u judge how bowler will do in t20.. by watching him bowl in totally diff era? :hmmm: he probably would not have bowled in similar way in t20's or in this era.. only thing matters is he did unbelievably well in his era.. and tht wht counts :D Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes' date=' but some do better than others.[/quote'] T20 is toughest format for even the best fast bowlers to be consistent. Batsmen are used to playing pace now until there is movement for fast bowlers. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yes. Mcgrath did well in T20' date=' right up until retirement.[/quote'] He played 19 T20 matches and only 2 T20 internationals. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Why do you think so? He looked like McGrath (great accuracy) with speed' date=' at least that's what appeared to me from videos that I have seen. People say that he could skid the ball. Those qualities would be good enough to trouble batsmen in T20.[/quote'] Waqar Younis says he's happy to not bowl in this era in his interview - I think that says it all. Link to comment
vamos_rafa Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Waqar Younis says he's happy to not bowl in this era in his interview - I think that says it all. Most certainly. Reasons are pretty straight forward, smaller grounds, best possible willows, flatter pitches. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Most certainly. Reasons are pretty straight forward' date=' smaller grounds, best possible willows, flatter pitches.[/quote'] And batsmen are more equipped and better to play pace now. That fear of pace is not anymore too which used to be there in 70s and 80s without security gears. They only face problems when ball starts moving around but we rarely see such conditions in T20 cricket. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Most certainly. Reasons are pretty straight forward' date=' smaller grounds, best possible willows, flatter pitches.[/quote'] For some reason I can understand best willows - improvement in technology. Lets say we let go of flatter pitches too due to some weather conditions. But why the F pull the ropes in? I mean that is something which is totally controllable. I hate that in the IPL and it boils my blood is because the one's who clear them are made to look like the next Shane Watson of Indian cricket when they are far from it. :facepalm: Link to comment
panther Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 lack of expres pacer in world cricket apart from tait he was a brillant t20 bowler at the start of his career but due to injurys now he has lost a yard of pace and even he is getting smacked in t20s. no batsman is comfortable facing 150+ but no bowler bowls 150+ these days all bowl around 140 with effort ball at 150. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 For some reason I can understand best willows - improvement in technology. Lets say we let go of flatter pitches too due to some weather conditions. But why the F pull the ropes in? I mean that is something which is totally controllable. I hate that in the IPL and it boils my blood is because the one's who clear them are made to look like the next Shane Watson of Indian cricket when they are far from it. :facepalm: Boundaries are not pulled in IPL. They are normal boundaries which those grounds have. Some grounds like Chinnaswamy, Wankhede, Eden are smaller, some like Jaipur, Mohali, Nagpur, MA Chidambram, and DY Patil are bigger. Shorter boundaries have nothing to do with pulling them in. Link to comment
Old guy Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 mohali is considered big ? looked very small when i went to see match :P Link to comment
Crookbond Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Boundaries are not pulled in IPL. They are normal boundaries which those grounds have. Some grounds like Chinnaswamy' date=' Wankhede, Eden are smaller, some like Jaipur, Mohali, Nagpur, MA Chidambram, and DY Patil are bigger. Shorter boundaries have nothing to do with pulling them in.[/quote'] I think boundaries are pulled in at MA Chidambaram and Chinnaswamy. I have visited both these grounds for a Test/ODI versus an IPL game and have found appreciable difference. Other commentators have moaned this fact too. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 I think boundaries are pulled in at MA Chidambaram and Chinnaswamy. I have visited both these grounds for a Test/ODI versus an IPL game and have found appreciable difference. Other commentators have moaned this fact too. I think that is just a misconception if you had watched recent test at Chinnaswamy which is one of the smallest ground. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 mohali is considered big ? looked very small when i went to see match :P Mohali is one of the bigger cricket grounds in India. Link to comment
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