EnterTheVoid Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Reservists on stand by, another ground invasion likely if media reports are to believed.
EnterTheVoid Posted November 16, 2012 Author Posted November 16, 2012 Off topic but who made Tony Blair middle east peace ambassador? This joker was one of the biggest cheerleaders of the Iraq War!! Predictable response from the US/UK media, these jokers must all be reading from the same script.
Crookbond Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 There is a battle on Twitter as well including propaganda and false information. 8mekVWRQ5_g
Crookbond Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Israel and Hamas wage Twitter war over Gaza conflict http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20339546 On Wednesday, the IDF began live-tweeting and blogging about its current military operation against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Ahmed Said Khalil al-Jabari, head of Hamas' military wing, was killed in the initial air strike. The IDF uploaded a video of the attack and an "eliminated" poster on Twitter. Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, responded: "Our blessed hands will reach your leaders and soldiers wherever they are (You Opened Hell Gates on Yourselves)". In a thinly-veiled threat, the IDF warned: "We recommend no Hamas operatives, whether low level or senior leaders, show their faces above ground in the days ahead." Meanwhile, over the last 20 hours, Hamas has been giving a running commentary on its mortar and rocket attacks on various Israeli targets, including what it said were military bases. On Thursday, it posted a YouTube video purportedly showing the launch of a Fajr 5 missile towards Tel Aviv for the first time. In its turn, the IDF tweeted a link to a video purportedly showing an Israeli air force attack on a "rocket warehouse in #Gaza", on day two of its "Pillar of Defense" operation. Al Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, has also been using Twitter to get its message across The use of social media to announce and comment on military operations, almost in real time, is a significant departure for the social networking platform. And it potentially brings the warring parties into conflict with Twitter's own rules, which state: "Violence and Threats: You may not publish or post direct, specific threats of violence against others." Benedict Evans, analyst at media research company Enders Analysis, told the BBC: "This clearly puts Twitter in a difficult position. They want to preserve their position as a carrier service that doesn't editorialise. "On the other hand, they have terms and conditions that must be adhered to. "This is not a decision a couple of hundred engineers in North California want to be making." It remains to be seen whether Twitter intervenes in the online warfare and bans either of both of the combatants.
EnterTheVoid Posted November 16, 2012 Author Posted November 16, 2012 Any latest news from Zaid Hamid?
yoda Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Doesn't Israel invade Gaza like a few times a year?
jairamesh Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Doesn't Israel invade Gaza like a few times a year? Detox mission. Raze the weapon depots in Gaza and then retreat. Repeat in 4-5 years again. Hopeless strategy as supply of weapons will be continued to be funded by the likes of Sunni Saudis, Qatari and now a very sympathetic Egyptian government.
EnterTheVoid Posted November 16, 2012 Author Posted November 16, 2012 The elections are around the corner, Ben Yahoo and company need to look tough :winky:
panther Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Detox mission. Raze the weapon depots in Gaza and then retreat. Repeat in 4-5 years again. Hopeless strategy as supply of weapons will be continued to be funded by the likes of Sunni Saudis, Qatari and now a very sympathetic Egyptian government. lol saudis and qatari will never help gaza, help comes from iran, hezbollah and maybe some african states. and recently egypt.
jairamesh Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 The elections are around the corner' date=' Ben Yahoo and company need to look tough :winky:[/quote'] Good point, I think they are in January. It's flip a coin who to go after for pre-elections boost, Hamas or Hizbollah (Lebanon). And we say Indian politicians have no shame. :giggle:
jairamesh Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 lol saudis and qatari will never help gaza, help comes from iran, hezbollah and maybe some african states. and recently egypt. Publicly they might not give full support, but plenty of underhand aid flows into Hamas hands from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. I think only this week Qater emir gave over $200 million to Hamas directly. Iran hardly deal (and probably don't care) with Hamas, Iran's support is to Hizbollah due to Shia links.
Texy Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 I don't get it....Pakistanis are extremely vocal when it comes to supporting their brothers in Palestine(only the Muslim ones). Pakistanis every day pray for death on Israel and yet has never opened up their hearts and visa ques for their brothers in Palestine to come home to land of miracle and reside amongst their ummah brothers. Offer Palestinians free house schemes, may be some interest free loans and jobs and genuine offer to settle down away from the conflict. It doesn't even have to be everybody just the ones who wants to move away. Give them amnesty visas like many Pakistanis ask from Western countries they very much hate. Why this false ummah support?
EnterTheVoid Posted November 16, 2012 Author Posted November 16, 2012 Pakistani's expressing "Muslims solidarity" with the Palestinians is limited to them burning some flags and drawing some crude cartoons
mhr123 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 I don't get it....Pakistanis are extremely vocal when it comes to supporting their brothers in Palestine(only the Muslim ones). Pakistanis every day pray for death on Israel and yet has never opened up their hearts and visa ques for their brothers in Palestine to come home to land of miracle and reside amongst their ummah brothers. Offer Palestinians free house schemes' date= may be some interest free loans and jobs and genuine offer to settle down away from the conflict. It doesn't even have to be everybody just the ones who wants to move away. Give them amnesty visas like many Pakistanis ask from Western countries they very much hate. Why this false ummah support? Thats news to me Texy Paa ji ... Only Zaid Hamid brings up that issue when he talks about Mossad association with RAW and how they tried to attacked Pakistan using Israel Planes with Indian Pilots blaah blaaah blaaaaaah... Pakistan main issue is India and nothing else ... somehow they want to create some sort of issue here at this place and just to ignite fire inside the belly of there people they would make up stories on how there is ill treatement of Indian muslims in Kashmir / Gujarat .. Never ever u wud see zaid hamid types people talking about any other issue except India.. Well if they were so concerned about Palestine Muslims then yah they should have agreed to open free visas for people and Palestine should also in return should have given free passes to so called Mujahideen fighting for a cause.. but nothing of this kind have happened... Saab chewtiyaa banene ka tareeqa hai..
KhanSaab Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Unlike desis, a lot of palestinians dont want to leave their homeland. Giving them visas is not going to solve the problem. Moving 'en masse' is akin to giving up their rights to the land of their forefathers. In 1947 a lot of palestinians did move out of present day Israel, thinking they will be back once the fighting was over, and were issued visas by most arab countries (for example almost 50% of Jordan's population are palestinian refugees) but now they realize it was a mistake as israel just gobbled up the land vacated by them. So now there is a concerted effort amongst palestinians not to leave their homes and migrate away. Google "Right to Return of Palestinian Refugees" for those who are more interested.
jairamesh Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Unlike desis, a lot of palestinians dont want to leave their homeland. Giving them visas is not going to solve the problem. Moving 'en masse' is akin to giving up their rights to the land of their forefathers. In 1947 a lot of palestinians did move out of present day Israel, thinking they will be back once the fighting was over, and were issued visas by most arab countries (for example almost 50% of Jordan's population are palestinian refugees) but now they realize it was a mistake as israel just gobbled up the land vacated by them. So now there is a concerted effort amongst palestinians not to leave their homes and migrate away. Google "Right to Return of Palestinian Refugees" for those who are more interested. Palestine = Jordan. Anyways, if Israel is guilty of land grab, then where is the allied military support from the likes of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE. Where is pressure from these Sunni Arab states on the international stage. The Saudi's have been heavily investing in hi-tech military gear over the last three decades. They have fleet of advanced multi-role fighter planes, they could surely spare a few to help their Palestinian brethrens.
KhanSaab Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Palestine = Jordan. Anyways, if Israel is guilty of land grab, then where is the allied military support from the likes of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE. Where is pressure from these Sunni Arab states on the international stage. The Saudi's have been heavily investing in hi-tech military gear over the last three decades. They have fleet of advanced multi-role fighter planes, they could surely spare a few to help their Palestinian brethrens. Israeli land grab doesnt bother Saudi/arab royalty. They are more interested in keeping power than supporting the palestinians. And they realize their kingships/dictatorships can falter quickly if the US pulls its support as the general populace is quite pissed off at them. Anyways, thats how things stood for almost 50 years but I believe "arab spring" and the increasing divergence with shia Iran has upset the apple cart a tad. Lets see what happens now, especially in Egypt which is a key player here.
Ranvir Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 This whole creation of Israel was a joke to begin with. Creating Pakistan and Bangladesh I can understand because at least ethnically and culturally the people were native to the land. Most of Israel's population is European. If anything, these guys should have been given a homeland in Europe not the middle east.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 This whole creation of Israel was a joke to begin with. Creating Pakistan and Bangladesh I can understand because at least ethnically and culturally the people were native to the land. Most of Israel's population is European. If anything, these guys should have been given a homeland in Europe not the middle east. LOL. Please explain to me which geographic area of europe should constitute their jewish 'homeland'. why don't all the neighboring arab countries absorb the Palestinians themselves? they are all the same people anyway.
EnterTheVoid Posted November 17, 2012 Author Posted November 17, 2012 This whole creation of Israel was a joke to begin with. Creating Pakistan and Bangladesh I can understand because at least ethnically and culturally the people were native to the land. Most of Israel's population is European. If anything, these guys should have been given a homeland in Europe not the middle east. Fair point. Seems the Palestinians are paying the price for Europe's mistakes during the WW2.
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