Spiderguy252 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Sad but true. Cook and KP are going to help England to a lead of whatever margin from here on. Prior is still to come, keep in mind. Harbhajan Singh - You have got to be kidding me. Selected on what basis, exactly? Ashwin - The problem I have with this guy is that every delivery seems to be an individual work of art, like in T20. Whereas Swann/Panesar etc. spend 2-3 overs setting a batsman up. Says something when the best spinner has been....Ojha! We need Yadav fit asap. 3 spinners are a no go.
Ultimate_Game Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Actually it's BCCI's decision not to have DRS that's found out. Umpires will not give even plumb LBWs and all the batsman needs to do is to take a decent stride against spinners and LBW is out of the question. Secondly going back to Harbhajan was as poor a decision as there is in terms of selection. Going back to a has been when he hasn't done anything of note is shocking and I don't have much faith in the new selection panel anymore. They could have gone with Harmeet Singh from u-19s as he was the one player who looked ready for intl cricket and they went with a bowler who hasn't done javk shyte to earn a recall. If you have to err, err on the side of youngsters not over the hill has beens.
saneindian Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Too early to pass judgements. At least wait for the test to finish. They did create enough chance. A captain hell bent on being defensive the moment a 4 was hit didn't help them one bit. Hopefully they will comeback with better plan tomorrow morning.
Ram Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Too early to pass judgements. At least wait for the test to finish. They did create enough chance. A captain hell bent on being defensive the moment a 4 was hit didn't help them one bit. Hopefully they will comeback with better plan tomorrow morning. When in doubt, blame Dhoni!
jairamesh Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I don't yhink spin attack has been found out, there were plenty of edges/chances/poor umpiring decisions that just didn't carry. But main worry is the lack good turn from India spinners compared to the purchase Swann and Panesar were getting out of the wicket.
Number Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 When in doubt' date=' blame Dhoni![/quote'] He is right. Me, Warne, Gavaskar and Ganguly were saying the same thing during the game.
Ultimate_Game Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 He is right. Me' date= Warne, Gavaskar and Ganguly were saying the same thing during the game. :haha:
Ram Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 He is right. Me' date= Warne, Gavaskar and Ganguly were saying the same thing during the game. Were you with them when you were saying the same thing? :cantstop:
NareshK Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Ojha and Ashwin bowled well. You have to give the English batsmen credit, especially Cook. He played with good temperament, showed good defense and also attacked occasionally. On Indian tracks sometimes the ball stops doing a lot and becomes better for batting. A partnership is bound to form and bowlers need to be patient in those passages. But the good thing is if one wicket falls, others will follow because the new batsmen needs time to adjust to the turn and bounce. Harbhajan never looked like getting a wicket though. He seems to have lost a lot of confidence and couldnt put constant pressure on the batsmen. This may be his last test if he cant get wickets tomorrow.
suraj Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Ojha and Ashwin bowled well. You have to give the English batsmen credit, especially Cook. He played with good temperament, showed good defense and also attacked occasionally. On Indian tracks sometimes the ball stops doing a lot and becomes better for batting. A partnership is bound to form and bowlers need to be patient in those passages. But the good thing is if one wicket falls, others will follow because the new batsmen needs time to adjust to the turn and bounce. Harbhajan never looked like getting a wicket though. He seems to have lost a lot of confidence and couldnt put constant pressure on the batsmen. This may be his last test if he cant get wickets tomorrow. Hasn't he been getting these last chances for a while now- then he finds some rank turner once in a while, claims 3-4 wkts against poor batting attacks and viola we have a comeback for another series
NareshK Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Hasn't he been getting these last chances for a while now- then he finds some rank turner once in a while' date=' claims 3-4 wkts against poor batting attacks and viola we have a comeback for another series[/quote'] I agree. Even domestic batsmen in Ranji trophy played him very easily. He barely picked any wickets there. So I dont understand how he got back into the test team. It happens only in India.
kabira Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Getting Pieterson early tomororw morning is key. I don't expect Samit and Johnny survive for long.. We were creating chances...so its just matter of time. I wish Dhoni had short leg to Ojha against Pieterson..LOL Wickets are falling in first session everydays...so hope we make in roads in the morning.
bajrang Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 we didnt made a decent score on the track. its as simple as that. still its only second day.
MCcricket Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Though Dhoni's hand might have been pushed by Yadav's injury, don't know what three spinners would do, also Ashwin needs to learn some lessons here, try to turn the ball more and ball to a plan not try too many variations and let go of the pressure, Dhoni to me is past his sell by date since a year now as captain and player in test, Ishant should be in the team, Harbhajan did not deserve a call back to the team, rather have R Sharma . India will win this game and series but what did they achieve, playing on rank turners, boring cricket, one seamer in the team, spinners opening the bowling, what a farce, Dhoni needs to go, this way cricket is going back to the days when India were minnows and could only draw or loose games, how will they do well outside touring next year. Zak's days are up, Irfan should take over from him and team up with Yadav, Ishant, Varun, Shami, Pankaj, Virat, Pujara are good, Yuvi, Gambhir, Tendulkar might be liabilities, need to look outside Harbhajan and vk, pk.
Texy Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Bhaj would've been in the wickets column but the paki decided to not reward him. Extremely unlucky.
The Realist Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Its a bunch of mediocre bowlers - the fact that the Dart-thrower is back is a sad indictment shows the spin cupboard is bare. They don't know how to create pressure, set up batsmen or when to go for the kill. Contrast that with how the Pak bowlers hunted as a pack against Eng in UAE - there was no let up in pressure and Eng were strangled to death. And however limited Misbah was, his captaincy v Eng was streets ahead of the pathetic negative mentality of Dhoni.
saneindian Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 When in doubt' date=' blame Dhoni![/quote'] Did you watch the day's play especially the 10 minutes before tea and the post tea session? If you did you would know what I am talking about.
maverick451 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 This forum is funny, a couple of weeks ago Ashwin was the best spinner on the planet and swann was shite! Youve only had 1 bad day, just relax, the opposition is allowed to play well. As an English fan I still think India are right in this game!
Nova Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 ^ Some fans are like that. We have chest thumpers and knee jerkers... that's the sub continent specialty: the emotional fan.
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