Muloghonto Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 no one is made a fool of as much as a soldier..feed them patriotic kool aid' date=' and let them die..call them martyrs after that.. at least some solace for their unlucky souls that their death count is discussed like a cricket score by the drawing room patriots.[/quote'] no one is fooling the soldiers- they know what they are signing up for. We do not go around holding superiority-driven 'martial race' ideologies, which leads soldiers to believe that they are innately better and thus, equal to 2-3 of the enemy soldiers. THAT is what 'making a fool out of your army' really is. And again, your argument is not relevant to kashmir. With or without Kashmir, there will still be soldiers, there will still be military clashes, ambushes, the odd equipment failure and military deaths. Unless you actually see an utopian society take shape, soldiers dying is a reality you gotto accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 And indian army is handing out bread and butter in kashmir and thats y we need half a mill of them there... :cantstop: we need half a million of them there to keep the LoC as impenetrable as possible. Plus, where the hell else would they be ? Hmm, lets see- if you are a military commander, are you going to place your troops on higher ground areas that borders two hostile nations of lower ground ( Kashmir) or are you gonna post them in lakshwadeep and go for tropical swims ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 no one is made a fool of as much as a soldier..feed them patriotic kool aid' date=' and let them die..call them martyrs after that.. at least some solace for their unlucky souls that their death count is discussed like a cricket score by the drawing room patriots.[/quote'] Atleast learn to change a few words before you copy and paste Mr. Troll on the imaginary high horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpressPace Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 we need half a million of them there to keep the LoC as impenetrable as possible. Plus, where the hell else would they be ? Hmm, lets see- if you are a military commander, are you going to place your troops on higher ground areas that borders two hostile nations of lower ground ( Kashmir) or are you gonna post them in lakshwadeep and go for tropical swims ?! If this justification makes u sleep better .... But you cant change the facts that indian army has always been involved in atrocities in kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If this justification makes u sleep better .... But you cant change the facts that indian army has always been involved in atrocities in kashmir. nobody denies this. The point *YOU* are missing, is that this is not 'special' for Indian army. This is true for ALL armies. Where there be a large gathering of people who are trained to follow orders and shoot first, ask questions later, especially a lot of testosterone driven young kids, you have attrocities. Same happens in Okinawa (where there are lot of US personnel), Tibet, etc. When you gather 50,000 soldiers, there is gonna be a spike in the local crime levels. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpressPace Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 nobody denies this. The point *YOU* are missing, is that this is not 'special' for Indian army. This is true for ALL armies. Where there be a large gathering of people who are trained to follow orders and shoot first, ask questions later, especially a lot of testosterone driven young kids, you have attrocities. Same happens in Okinawa (where there are lot of US personnel), Tibet, etc. When you gather 50,000 soldiers, there is gonna be a spike in the local crime levels. Get over it. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suraj Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I have not seen anywhere; in news, media, on this forum ... how these 2 poor soldiers will be honored and what will be done to help their families since they died in the line of duty. Does anyone have any information or can point out? - to me thats more useful than all these meaningless debates around US-USSR or the actionless interviews from the govt leaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Aman ki asha. FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 So what's the govt's response ? An official protest :hatsoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Mr. Salman Khursi is one cool dude, comes up with statements like "Pak Army must ask themselves, what was their objective" & "They must reflect on the incident". External Affairs ministry has a Gandhigiri doctrine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 ^We deserve this. We really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Saw on twitter Only Army can protest the killing of 2 Jawans at LOC by Pak Army. Others making noise are just 'DENTED-PAINTED INDIANS' ~ Abhijit Mukherjee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Pak denies cross-LoC attack; claims 'ground verification' done ISLAMABAD: Pakistani military today rejected India's contention that its troops had attacked an Indian patrol and killed two soldiers, claiming that it had carried out ground verification and "found nothing of this sort happened." The Pakistani side conveyed this during a phone conversation between the Directors General of Military Operations (DGMOs) of the two sides. A Pakistani military official, who did not want to be named, said Pakistan's DGMO Maj Gen Ashfaq Nadeem talked to his Indian counterpart Lt Gen Vinod Bhatia on a hotline and rejected the Indian army's "allegations of cross-LoC firing by Pakistani troops and killing any Indian soldier." "The Indian authorities were informed that Pakistan has carried out ground verification and checked and found nothing of this sort happened as is being alleged by India," the military official said. "It is mere propaganda by the Indian army," the official claimed. The Pakistani military had on Tuesday also rejected the Indian army's contention that Pakistani troops had killed two Indian soldiers after crossing the LoC, saying the accusation was aimed at diverting attention from another incident over the weekend. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pak-denies-cross-LoC-attack-claims-ground-verification-done/articleshow/17953112.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Non-state actors ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Pakistan also denied knowledge of Bin Laden's whereabouts, denied causing a large casualty in Bangladesh in '71. India needs to deploy delta force who can sneak across the border...massacre that whole regiment responsible for this..and then sneak back and deny the whole thing. However, we have cowards and imbeciles running the show in New Delhi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Pak denies cross-LoC attack; claims 'ground verification' done ISLAMABAD: Pakistani military today rejected India's contention that its troops had attacked an Indian patrol and killed two soldiers, claiming that it had carried out ground verification and "found nothing of this sort happened." The Pakistani side conveyed this during a phone conversation between the Directors General of Military Operations (DGMOs) of the two sides. A Pakistani military official, who did not want to be named, said Pakistan's DGMO Maj Gen Ashfaq Nadeem talked to his Indian counterpart Lt Gen Vinod Bhatia on a hotline and rejected the Indian army's "allegations of cross-LoC firing by Pakistani troops and killing any Indian soldier." "The Indian authorities were informed that Pakistan has carried out ground verification and checked and found nothing of this sort happened as is being alleged by India," the military official said. "It is mere propaganda by the Indian army," the official claimed. The Pakistani military had on Tuesday also rejected the Indian army's contention that Pakistani troops had killed two Indian soldiers after crossing the LoC, saying the accusation was aimed at diverting attention from another incident over the weekend. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pak-denies-cross-LoC-attack-claims-ground-verification-done/articleshow/17953112.cms And people say we should open bussiness with them and trade with them.:(( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohit S. Ambani Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Go on full scale war, these people will only learn lesson then. Our side will also suffer, but Pakii's will be sent to middle ages for sure. My wish is to make a Muslim Indian PM/President/Chief of Army and thrash these self proclaimed 'contractor's of Islam' in Pakistan. Humanity has died in Pakistan, it's worst nation on Earth! Push these savages to Afghanistan and conquer the land which originally belonged to sufi, saints, birth place of religions. These people don't deserve most fertile land in sub-continent, they are bhikhari's and will remain bhikhari's. ******* people have not build a single dam to conserve water. :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Haha people talking about nuclear wars and whatnot even before the whole incident has yet to un-ravel itself. Why in God's name would Pakistan do something so stupid at such a point with regards to the situation back home ? Political turmoil, war with the TTP, unrest in Karachi. What does Pakistan have to gain from randomly attacking two Indian soldiers ? Three days ago you guys killed a Pakistani solider, none of us started jerking off to thoughts of nuclear war. Chill. Its more likely your side wants to divert attention from the incident which happened three days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Go on full scale war' date=' these people will only learn lesson then. Our side will also suffer, but Pakii's will be sent to middle ages for sure. [b']My wish is to make a Muslim Indian PM/President/Chief of Army and thrash these self proclaimed 'contractor's of Islam' in Pakistan. Yes, because that is how it has worked for us in the past. I mean having Giani Zail Singh as the President made all the Sikh terrorist finally see how plural India was, leading them to drop their weapons and become desh ke sacche nagrik. Or even today having a Sikh PM and Army Chief makes Akal Takht (un)comfortable about celeberating assassins? Right. Got it. Humanity has died in Pakistan, it's worst nation on Earth! Push these savages to Afghanistan and conquer the land which originally belonged to sufi, saints, birth place of religions. These people don't deserve most fertile land in sub-continent, they are bhikhari's and will remain bhikhari's. ******* people have not build a single dam to conserve water. :facepalm: Push them into Afganistan? :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidhoni Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Why the phuck don't we just go for a full-fledged war and finish these ***gots off for once and for all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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