Sachin=GOD Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: I guess the police don't know the concept of TV and LIVE coverage :phehehe:
India-KXIP fan Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 CSK actually may survive, I hope none of their players were involved with anything either. But one things for sure and that's Srini will go.
someone Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Well, it should be step by step. Firstly, suspend this team and investigate everything from the top to the bottom involving this team. Just termination will let them walk free. Although, I do wonder if some other team owner was having this kind of issue, BCCI would have already made a strong worded statement and perhaps terminated them already. And what about Mallya, who is a criminal, could RCB will terminated as well?
bulbul Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Well, it should be step by step. Firstly, suspend this team and investigate everything from the top to the bottom involving this team. Just termination will let them walk free. Although, I do wonder if some other team owner was having this kind of issue, BCCI would have already made a strong worded statement and perhaps terminated them already. And what about Mallya, who is a criminal, could RCB will terminated as well? Currently IPL rule says terminate team which cuases bad name / issue to league. you have to modify rules to terminate RCB :two_thumbs_up:
yoda Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 It is always a holding company which has majority stake. For instance, it is not Neeta Ambani who owns Mumbai Indians, it is owned by the Reliance group of industries. Gurunath Meiyappan's wife ( Srini's daughter) is the MD of India Cements. In some cases ( especially those relating to insider trading) even a spouse or a close family member of the accused being in a position of power is at times enough to force resignation. All that aside, Gurunath was allegedly the only one present during the auctions. Pretty high a responsibility if you ask me, especially as he isn't any one calling the shots as you claim. The thing is, he was privy to a lot of stuff that was going on in and around the team and hence betting from his end has undue advantage over the others. Edit: Prakat already mentioned that. There are two issues here. One of ownership and the other of bringing disrepute to the IPL. We are not sure if we can establish if he is a definite "owner" of the team. I am not even sure what the definition of owner is. Are all shareholders of India Cements company the owners of the team? Is it limited to upper management? May be if you are majority owner of shares of a company you can be deemed an owner which is clearly not the case here. Just because he sat in auctions, it doesn't mean he is an owner. On the second issue, of "material adverse effect upon the reputation or standing of the League, and/ or the game of cricket", I am not sure how betting on one's own and losing money without influencing the outcome of the game causes material adverse effect upon the reputation of the league. Fixing games, there is no question. Betting without influencing others is illegal cause he gains unfair advantage over other betters, so he should be jailed, but legally can it be considered as having a material adverse effect on the league? Definitely for fixing, I am not sure on betting.
someone Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Currently IPL rule says terminate team which cuases bad name / issue to league. you have to modify rules to terminate RCB :two_thumbs_up: Wouldn't having a criminal as the owner be a bad name anyways?
Sachin=GOD Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 There are two issues here. One of ownership and the other of bringing disrepute to the IPL. We are not sure if we can establish if he is a definite "owner" of the team. I am not even sure what the definition of owner is. Are all shareholders of India Cements company the owners of the team? Is it limited to upper management? May be if you are majority owner of shares of a company you can be deemed an owner which is clearly not the case here. Just because he sat in auctions, it doesn't mean he is an owner. On the second issue, of "material adverse effect upon the reputation or standing of the League, and/ or the game of cricket", I am not sure how betting on one's own and losing money without influencing the outcome of the game causes material adverse effect upon the reputation of the league. Fixing games, there is no question. Betting without influencing others is illegal cause he gains unfair advantage over other betters, so he should be jailed, but legally can it be considered as having a material adverse effect on the league? Definitely for fixing, I am not sure on betting. oh come on, thats just utter BS and you know it. The person who was betting was not an ordinary fan - he belonged to the family of the team owner and BCCI Prez and was pretty much the face of the franchise himself. if this doesn't bring IPL into disrepute then nothing will.
yoda Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Wouldn't having a criminal as the owner be a bad name anyways? Bad name is too vague. Pune and Delhi brought a bad name to the league with their piss poor play, you can't ban them for that. :giggle:
FischerTal Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 request to mods, all these different threads on chuskis and spot fixing saga with their owners, can you merge them into one big thread? :om:
yoda Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 oh come on' date=' thats just utter BS and you know it. The person who was betting was not an ordinary fan - he belonged to the family of the team owner and BCCI Prez and was pretty much the face of the franchise himself. if this doesn't bring IPL into disrepute then nothing will.[/quote'] Dude, that was meant for Mariyam who I expect would read it objectively, not for troals like you. :winky:
asterix Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 request to mods' date=' all these different threads on chuskis and spot fixing saga with their owners, can you merge them into one big thread? :om:[/quote'] :agree: please merge with their 'most consistent' thread...
bulbul Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Dude' date=' that was meant for Mariyam who I expect would read it objectively, not for troals like you. :winky:[/quote'] Looks like this fixing saga is taking a toll on you , take rest . As per latest new Seeni amoo needs only 7/31 votes [70000 cemment bags will fix that]
Texan Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 BCCI mulls suspending Srinivasan if he doesn't resign N Srinivasan's days as BCCI president seem to be numbered as a faction within the board is planning to initiate suspension proceedings against him if he refuses to step down in the aftermath of the IPL spot-fixing scandal that has thrown Indian cricket into disarray. Srinivasan's son-in-law Gurunath Meiyappan, who was till recently referred to as Chennai Super Kings CEO before being disowned by the franchise, was yesterday arrested for alleged involvement in betting. The development has left Srinivasan cornered and there is a growing clamour for his removal from the top post. But the Tamil Nadu strongman has not given any indication of stepping down on his own despite the growing crisis. Rattled by his continued defiance, some top board officials have started the process to oust him by getting him suspended and using the services of his predecessor Shashank Manohar, who has a clean image. According to a top BCCI official, Manohar has agreed to take up the position on an interim basis till elections are held for a new President. When contacted, no BCCI official was willing to come on record on this development. Srinivasan's term will end in September 2014 as per a new amendment in board's Constitution, which provides for a 2+1 tenure for the President. It is learnt that four top BCCI officials have already spoken to Manohar on this proposal. "Manohar has agreed to be the interim President till all the problems are sorted out but he doesn't want to occupy the position for long. He would take it up only in a caretaker capacity," the top official said on condition of anonymity. The top brass of the BCCI is getting in touch with the state units to start the process. As per the requirement, 2/3rd of the state units have to write a letter to the BCCI Secretary Sanjay Jagdale to convene an emergency meeting. The special General Body Meeting will then have to pass a resolution with a 2/3rd majority to suspend Srinivasan and appoint an interim President. Many of the top BCCI officials are already in Kolkata where the IPL final between the Chennai Super Kings and the Mumbai Indians is scheduled tomorrow. "Since most of the top board officials are gathering here for the IPL final, it will be easy to begin the consultation process," the official said. The board is particularly concerned about the credibility crisis the IPL has suffered because of the spot-fixing scandal, which led to the arrest of three cricketers, including India Test pacer S Sreesanth and a large number of bookies with underworld connections. The board officials feel that Gurunath's arrest has made Srinivasan's position untenable and his reluctance to step down has made it even more embarrassing. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/spot-fixing-hits-ipl-6/news/BCCI-mulls-suspending-Srinivasan-if-he-doesnt-resign/articleshow/20257441.cms
Sachin=GOD Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/spot-fixing-hits-ipl-6/news/BCCI-mulls-suspending-Srinivasan-if-he-doesnt-resign/articleshow/20257441.cms [csk fans] TOIlet paper doing what it does best - speculation :giggle: [/csk fans]
Crookbond Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Bad name is too vague. Pune and Delhi brought a bad name to the league with their piss poor play' date= you can't ban them for that. :giggle: Come up with a better analogy please. Straw man, here's the clause and please peruse before posting further straw man
CSK Fan Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 On the second issue, of "material adverse effect upon the reputation or standing of the League, and/ or the game of cricket", I am not sure how betting on one's own and losing money without influencing the outcome of the game causes material adverse effect upon the reputation of the league. Fixing games, there is no question. Betting without influencing others is illegal cause he gains unfair advantage over other betters, so he should be jailed, but legally can it be considered as having a material adverse effect on the league? Definitely for fixing, I am not sure on betting. Dude have you never been employed in a private firm in your life? Some of the the naivete shown by you is just amazing. This is the first thing kids out of college go through and sign even when they join the lowest of low company! Do you have no idea about the implications of insider trading and the effect it has on on any organization even if no obvious cheating is involved? Do you know how many companies, CEOs in the world have been ruined just for this and have also faced long term jail?
Crookbond Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Today's song to CSK is dedicate from Srinivasan to his Son-In-Law Guru (the emoticons represent Srini's reaction when he sings this song). Cough Cough ... Srini clears throat Mera Tujhse Hai Pehle Ka Naata Koi :facepalm: Yoonhi Nahin Bet Lubhaata Koi Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na :(( Maane Tu Ya Maane Na :sniffle:
Crookbond Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Dude have you never been employed in a private firm in your life? Some of the the naivete shown by you is just amazing. This is the first thing kids out of college go through and sign even when they join the lowest of low company! Do you have no idea about the implications of insider trading and the effect it has on on any organization even if no obvious cheating is involved? Do you know how many companies' date= CEOs in the world have been ruined just for this and have also faced long term jail?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading Wikipedia might be a good start -
The Outsider Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 It's no wonder that CSK and Meiyappan are finding support on an Indian cricket forum. I remember the discussion a couple of years back on ICF about Rajat Gupta who had his own defenders because he was considered as some kind of role model in IIT. We are a fecked up and corrupt society down to the core. Defending our religion, caste, institution, country, state etc. due to some fecked up sense of joint representation is of more importance to us than condemning the wrong. PS: I have no idea what Srinivasan's son sexual orientation has to do with the entire thing, but referring to him as gay son, gay this, gay that just goes on to show your homophobic nature. Disgusting!
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