Ida ball can be revere swinged,can it be reverse seamed?

[vayuu1]

I mean there has been lot of hoopla regarding reverse swing,but can a ball be reverse seamed,I mean not the odd one,but consistently,IMHO it can be more dangerous than reverse swing ,has there been any instance of it in the past,I was just curious to know.

[rkt.india]

Yes. Mohd. Asif used to do this. Remember VVS Laxman dismissal in Karachi test. Ball was slated ot be outswinger but it lands on tilted seam and cuts back in. Also look at the two deliveries to Finch. Both were slated to be inswing with seam pointing towards fineleg not towards slips but ball pitches and seams away and this is not the only time, I have seen with Mohit Sharma, he has done same thing throughout the IPL. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Amqd2fCDU]Outstanding Bowling by Mohit Sharma - 2nd Inning : Pepsi IPL 2013 - PW vs CSK, Match 42 - YouTube[/ame]

[vayuu1]

If that's the case why can't indian bowler's apply it more often,I can bet it can be more devastating then reverse swing,no movement of air,u r expecting it go away bang ,middle stump up rooted.

[rkt.india]

If that's the case why can't indian bowler's apply it more often' date='I can bet it can be more devastating then reverse swing,no movement of air,u r expecting it go away bang ,middle stump up rooted.[/quote'] Among Indian bowlers, I have only seen Mohit Sharma do that so regularly in IPL. Ball slated to seam in but cuts away after pitching. Asif used to do opposite. He used to make the ball cut in with a seam slated for outswing.

[vayuu1]

Among Indian bowlers' date=' I have only seen Mohit Sharma do that so regularly in IPL. Ball slated to seam in but cuts away after pitching. Asif used to do opposite. He used to make the ball cut in with a seam slated for outswing.[/quote'] That is why I am asking why can't Indian bowler's learn this from mohit ,I know he is rookie ,if it helps u why not,somebody like yadav and bhuvi would be more lethal with it.

[Precambrian]

Can one really control which direction the ball will jag while seaming it?

[rkt.india]

Can one really control which direction the ball will jag while seaming it?

depends on the wrist position.

[adi B]

it only depends on the wrist position,kula,old ishant,cameron cuffy are some knowns

[Crookbond]

In my limited knowledge, bowlers who bowl with a "heavy ball" have a higher probability to reverse "seam".

[G_B_]

hmm ok at the risk of sounding stupid, what is a heavy ball? hit the deck sort of bowlers?

[Crookbond]

^ I can only give examples. Recently, Marchant De Lange I guess is one who bowls with a heavy ball. Hit-the-deck are not really heavy bowl bowlers. The best person on this topic of course is RKT.

[Old guy]

hmm ok at the risk of sounding stupid, what is a heavy ball? hit the deck sort of bowlers?

it is when instead of bat meeting the ball ,the ball hits the bat :P i think gavaskar described it in this way maybe it was some one else :hmmm:

[rkt.india]

hmm ok at the risk of sounding stupid, what is a heavy ball? hit the deck sort of bowlers?

Heavy ball is what that loses less pace after pitching and comes quicker than other pacers though even if bowled at a similar pace. Some bowlers have that ability likes of Flintoff, Mitchell Johnson, etc. Ishant used to bowl heavy ball in 2008 CB series which was shown in commentary analysis by comparing him to Brett Lee. They compared a ball which pitched at around same area, released at a same pace of 141 K, Ishant's ball reached batsman at 121K, while Brett Lee's at 111K, but nowadays Ishant has lost that zip of the pitch. Zip of the pitch has a lot to do with the use of the wrist.