ravishingravi Posted July 14, 2013 Posted July 14, 2013 There are lawful means of obtaining data to mitigate security threats versus intentional over reach just to create a profile of a normal individual in the name of security. There is also a fallacy in your example. Such ops are not sent to the whole department - there are specific teams which deal with these ops and data is restricted to those teams. So, were the NSA over reaching or did they resort to illegal ways here ?
Crookbond Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 Russia won’t extradite Snowden to US – Kremlin http://rt.com/news/snowden-russia-extradite-us-634/ Moscow says security agency FSB is in talks with the FBI over Snowden. But the whistleblower will not be extradited to the US, a Kremlin spokesman said, adding he's sure the fugitive NSA contractor will stop harming Washington if granted asylum in Russia. “Russia has never extradited anyone, and will not extradite,” said Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov. Russian President is not handling the case of the former CIA employee Edward Snowden, as “Snowden has not made any request that is subject to consideration by the head of the state,” Peskov added. The issue of Snowden asking for temporary asylum “was not and is not on Putin’s agenda,” Peskov continued, saying that it lies in the sphere of the countries’ security agencies. Head of the FSB Aleksandr Bortnikov and FBI Chief Robert Muller are engaged in the discussion over Snowden, Putin’s spokesman said Friday. Responding to the question of whether the former NSA contractor will continue harming the US by leaking classified materials while in Russia, and if the situation is going to undermine Moscow’s ties with Washington, Peskov stressed that “the head of state has expressed strong determination not to allow this,” referring to Putin’s earlier statements. “I have no doubt that this will be the case, no matter how the situation develops,” the spokesman added. Meanwhile, the US Senate threatened Thursday that it might impose sanctions against any country that provides asylum to Snowden, including revocation or suspension of trade privileges and preferences. The 30-year-old Snowden has been stripped of his US passport, and is wanted by the United States on espionage charges for carrying out one of the biggest security leaks in the American history. The NSA leaker has been stuck in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo Airport since his arrival from Hong Kong, and remains there while his asylum plea is being reviewed by Russian immigration authorities. His request followed weeks of searching for a way to leave the country, which he had intended to pass through only briefly on his way to another destination.
Swing_n_Speed Posted July 26, 2013 Author Posted July 26, 2013 ^^^ Disgusting and what's the more the world remains oblivious.
Sachin=GOD Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Hindustan Times @htTweets #Snowden granted asylum for one year in Russia, says lawyer: Reuters #ht
Sachin=GOD Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Edward Snowden gets job offer from Russia's Facebook American fugitive Edward Snowden was offered a job by Russia's top social networking site on Thursday, hours after the former intelligence contractor received a year-long asylum in Russia. "We invite Edward Snowden to Petersburg and will be happy if he decides to join the star team of programmers at VKontakte," Pavel Durov, one of the founders of the St. Petersburg-based VKontakte, Russia's answer to Facebook, said on his profile. Snowden's temporary asylum papers allow him to work in Russia, according to Anatoly Kucherena, a lawyer close to the Russian authorities, who has been assisting the American. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/edward-snowden-gets-job-offer-from-russias-facebook/411645-11.html
Mariyam Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 ^^^ Disgusting and what's the more the world remains oblivious. Why is it disgusting?
Swing_n_Speed Posted August 5, 2013 Author Posted August 5, 2013 Why is it disgusting? What's disgusting is the way the gov of USA has handled th situation. Stripping him of his passport, etc etc
Brainfade Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Rebel against some random commie regime in the East? Welcome home my son!! We shall take care of you, offer you and your family the red carpet. We will arrange for private jet flight to the Western country of your choice and pay for you and your family's expenses for a lifetime. You are a true role model and a symbol of free expression and civil liberties. Leak information about some horrifying US govt programs that make a mockery of your privacy and civil liberties? You criminal?! How dare you! We will hunt you down and put you in prison. We will blackmail every country in the world that wants to give you shelter and will make life so uncomfortable for you and your family that you give up by your own volition and a set a dangerous precedent for others who want to follow in your footsteps. :hysterical: I thought all that ended in 2008. BrVq6eZbJpA
Ram Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 I thought all that ended in 2008. BrVq6eZbJpA Campaigner Obama and President Obama is not the same person. It would be unfair to expect them to be so.
Brainfade Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Campaigner Obama and President Obama is not the same person. It would be unfair to expect them to be so. Wow. Just wow. The extent to which we go to defend the man and his hypocrisy. Speechless!
Crookbond Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 An edit on hist Wiki page turned Edward Snowden from "dissident" to a "traitor". The fun part is that the IP is linked to the US Senate, Washington DC. :hysterical: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Snowden&diff=prev&oldid=566904988 IP - 156.33.241.5 NetRange: 156.33.0.0 - 156.33.255.255 CIDR: 156.33.0.0/16 OriginAS: AS3495 NetName: USSAA NetHandle: NET-156-33-0-0-1 Parent: NET-156-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment RegDate: 1991-12-03 Updated: 2007-04-05 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-156-33-0-0-1 OrgName: United States Senate OrgId: USSAA Address: 2 MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE, N.E. 6TH FLOOR City: WASHINGTON DC StateProv: DC PostalCode: 20510 Country: US RegDate: 1991-12-03 Updated: 2011-09-24 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/USSAA OrgTechHandle: NOC143-ARIN OrgTechName: NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTER OrgTechPhone: +1-202-224-4186 OrgTechEmail: saanoc@saa.senate.gov OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC143-ARIN OrgAbuseHandle: NOC143-ARIN OrgAbuseName: NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTER OrgAbusePhone: +1-202-224-4186 OrgAbuseEmail: saanoc@saa.senate.gov OrgAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC143-ARIN
Brainfade Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 An edit on hist Wiki page turned Edward Snowden from "dissident" to a "traitor". The fun part is that the IP is linked to the US Senate, Washington DC. :hysterical: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Snowden&diff=prev&oldid=566904988 IP - 156.33.241.5 John McCain has been busy on the computer :-)!!
Ram Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Wow. Just wow. The extent to which we go to defend the man and his hypocrisy. Speechless! It is reasonable for you to be flabbergasted if I had different standards for different presidents. But I would have said the exact same thing if it were a republican president. I want to make clear- I am not a democrat, though ideologically, I do lean slightly left of center. But that does not mean I support everything the President does and will defend him at all costs. If anything, I was the first one to mock this administration for the approach they have taken towards Snowden.
Crookbond Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Restoring Trust in Government and the Internet https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/08/restoring_trust.html For people, still confused with the NSA and responses from organizations please read.
hhunaeh Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Found this on huffpo. I don't know which media source they got it from. Probable future snowden, according to the training manual A security training test created by a Defense Department agency warns federal workers that they should consider the hypothetical Indian-American woman a "high threat" because she frequently visits family abroad, has money troubles and "speaks openly of unhappiness with U.S. foreign policy." That slide, from the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA), is a startling demonstration of the Obama administration's obsession with leakers and other "insider threats." One goal of its broader "Insider Threat" program is to stop the next Bradley Manning or Edward Snowden from spilling classified or sensitive information.
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