Mariyam Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 2 months back. Why ? You mean apart from above article. Well I think there was always Saudi ( gulf ) influence in Kerala but limited. Not unexpected given the nature of things and Gulf money. Indian Union Muslim league ( which firstly must decide whether it wants to remain part if Union or not ), has gathered great momentum and support in last 5-6 years. Chopping of hands of the teacher really got great deal of attention. But truth is, IUML is most radical group operating in India and their hold in villages is increasing quite rapidly and it is scary to think that this group can and will be a part of mainstream politics. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-07-03/news/40352140_1_the-iuml-indian-union-muslim-league-malappuram Thanks for the detailed response. I've not heard much about the IUML and the fact that they don't wan't to be a part of the Indian Union comes as a shocker to me. Extremist parties tend to get a lot of support in mixed and volatile neighborhoods. In the predominantly Muslim districts of northern Kerala, playing the Muslim card is not going to set you apart. My observations in Kerala were different than the ones you've put across. The religious divide in Kerala is a lot lesser than in other parts of India. Say in places like Bhiwandi or Malegaon, you always hear this ' Us vs. them' rhetoric. From members of both the communities. Thankfully, this sentiment was absent in Kerala. Also, in general people are a lot richer and enjoy relatively comfortable lifestyles. Consumer goods and luxury brands have high penetration, even in rural parts. Mainly fueled by remittances from the Gulf. Most people over there seemed very content and maintaining status quo after the Oil/Gulf money dries up seemed to be the biggest of their worries.
Mariyam Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Answers for all your concerns is in the link itself.As far i know IUML aren't involved in any terrorist activities.Do you have any evidence regarding the involvement of IUML in that hand chopping incident.Iam also against mixing religion in politics but first we need to ban all those fascist hindu national parties/organizations before going after regional ones. Responses of these kind make me :mad: and . The right response to what is a very obvious problem of intolerance within a section of the community ( Muslim, in this case) should be introspection and not denial and shifting of blame. All this Deewar style 'pehle us aadmi ka sign leke aao bhai, phir mai sign karunga' is just not how a justice dispensing system should work. Why should that be a first? If the IUML, as Ravish says, is indeed behind the chopping off of the professors hand, then they should be brought to book, irrespective of the 'facists' at the national level. @ Ravish, where does one draw the line. Misinforming, however dastardly it maybe, still shouldn't be punishable. If people want to carve a niche for themselves based on fantasy/pseudo science and a supposed victims mentality, so be it. Our people aren't that stupid. They will realise eventually. Should the state interfere in such cases? I think not. The state should interfere only if violence is preached or instigated. I remember coming across RSS fliers, circa 2004-2005, which blamed Muslims (and the alleged standard of poor hygiene in Muslim households) for the plague of Surat. Would you like the State to act in on such incidents? Is this hate-mongering? Where does one draw the line?
AMBI Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Responses of these kind make me :mad: and . The right response to what is a very obvious problem of intolerance within a section of the community ( Muslim, in this case) should be introspection and not denial and shifting of blame. All this Deewar style 'pehle us aadmi ka sign leke aao bhai, phir mai sign karunga' is just not how a justice dispensing system should work. Why should that be a first? If the IUML, as Ravish says, is indeed behind the chopping off of the professors hand, then they should be brought to book, irrespective of the 'facists' at the national level. That was just an instantaneous reaction to some baseless accusation.Iam a hindu and Iam not interested in blaming/supporting any particular organization. Thanks for the detailed response. I've not heard much about the IUML andthe fact that they don't wan't to be a part of the Indian Union comes as a shocker to me.Extremist parties tend to get a lot of support in mixed and volatile neighborhoods. In the predominantly Muslim districts of northern Kerala, playing the Muslim card is not going to set you apart. My observations in Kerala were different than the ones you've put across. The religious divide in Kerala is a lot lesser than in other parts of India. Say in places like Bhiwandi or Malegaon, you always hear this ' Us vs. them' rhetoric. From members of both the communities. Thankfully, this sentiment was absent in Kerala. Also, in general people are a lot richer and enjoy relatively comfortable lifestyles. Consumer goods and luxury brands have high penetration, even in rural parts. Mainly fueled by remittances from the Gulf. Most people over there seemed very content and maintaining status quo after the Oil/Gulf money dries up seemed to be the biggest of their worries. Please provide a link to the fact
Mariyam Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Please provide a link to the fact Ask Ravish. He mentioned it in his earlier post.
AMBI Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Ask Ravish. He mentioned it in his earlier post. Why you took it as a fact ?
ravishingravi Posted October 13, 2013 Author Posted October 13, 2013 Why you took it as a fact ? Yup those were my observations. Facts were links which you failed to address and instead chose to divert it to some unrelated observations. Btw there are more links for your reference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
Detonator Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Waiting for some answers with proper evidence False dichotomy. Absence of evidence is not an evidence of absence.
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