bulbul Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 ^ Agree. Talking about any construction and saying its offend poor people is pure BS,If that's the case everyone should build huts not expensive houses. At least this will generate employment and if plan goes well should be a good tourism opportunity,they can always develop it in future as well.
hhunaeh Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 2000 crore is the kind of money that can be used in an infrastructure project. I keep seeing various state govts take loans similar in quantity to 2000 crore for various infrastructure projects. Why not use in some metro project in gujrat or for some highways?
Mariyam Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 2000 cr for a statue ( of steel, I presume) that is 182m tall? Looks like the sub contractors and sculptors are rewarding themselves handsomely.
Zanjeer Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 2000 crore is the kind of money that can be used in an infrastructure project. I keep seeing various state govts take loans similar in quantity to 2000 crore for various infrastructure projects. Why not use in some metro project in gujrat or for some highways? Why did India held commonwealth games and spent thousands of crores? Why is India doing chandrayan project when the money could have been spent to feed our poor?
randomGuy Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 2000 crore is the kind of money that can be used in an infrastructure project. I keep seeing various state govts take loans similar in quantity to 2000 crore for various infrastructure projects. Why not use in some metro project in gujrat or for some highways? Check out the objectives of the project and a on the same. Looks worth it imo.
hhunaeh Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Why did India held commonwealth games and spent thousands of crores? Why is India doing chandrayan project when the money could have been spent to feed our poor? commonwealth games was a waste of our money. haven't you heard of cities going into debt trying to fund games like this? Chandrayan and mars exploration are for scientific advancement in india and more importantly to provide a degree of legitimacy to our claims on moon's and mar's resources. When technology is advanced enough to divide up the planetary resources we will a seat on the bargaining table along with usa and china.
hhunaeh Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Check out the objectives of the project and a on the same. Looks worth it imo. You can directly invest this money into the areas which would supposedly benefit of this project. secondly the main project itself should have some utility like a train or a road. Even such utility projects will have all the benefits you mention
randomGuy Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 You can directly invest this money into the areas which would supposedly benefit of this project. secondly the main project itself should have some utility like a train or a road. Even such utility projects will have all the benefits you mention Yaar there is no dearth of capital in this world. You make proper proposals on infra projects, take them to china, japan, taiwan, korea, middle east - these countries WILL invest to spur their own growth as the fertility rate of east asian countries is between 1.2-1.5, population getting older, their local demand expected to lessen due to this, Middle east being cash rich due to oil. Like I said poor are poor because corruption, incompetence and apathy of people occupying authority. Imo, this project is worth it on its own very well stated and conceptualized objectives.
Zanjeer Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 commonwealth games was a waste of our money. haven't you heard of cities going into debt trying to fund games like this? Chandrayan and mars exploration are for scientific advancement in india and more importantly to provide a degree of legitimacy to our claims on moon's and mar's resources. When technology is advanced enough to divide up the planetary resources we will a seat on the bargaining table along with usa and china. commonwealth games was a disaster because the budget jumped to 50, 60 thousand crores from the initial budget 900 crores. Had we pulled it off within 900 crores, I would have said it was worth it. Chandrayan is waste of money, there is no resources available in moon and India can't claim anything in mars since the project is chandrayan, not marsayan...:giggle:
Sachin=GOD Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I would think that the country would be better off if leaders started following the principles of great men like Gandhi, Patel etc rather than going for such symbolic gestures which don't help anybody and result in enormous waste of public money.
hhunaeh Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Yaar there is no dearth of capital in this world. You make proper proposals on infra projects, take them to china, japan, taiwan, korea, middle east - these countries WILL invest to spur their own growth as the fertility rate of east asian countries is between 1.2-1.5, population getting older, their local demand expected to lessen due to this, Middle east being cash rich due to oil. We have to pay them back in some way don't we? commonwealth games was a disaster because the budget jumped to 50, 60 thousand crores from the initial budget 900 crores. Had we pulled it off within 900 crores, I would have said it was worth it. the games are a waste of money no matter what the cost. Chandrayan is waste of money, there is no resources available in moon and India can't claim anything in mars since the project is chandrayan, not marsayan...:giggle: We have to lay claim to the land first. New uses of existing elements will come up later. And mining is not the only way to use the moon's resources. Anyway this tangential argument is unnecessary. We all know the real objective of this project is political in nature. It is pretty obvious to everyone here other than a few folk.
bulbul Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 ^ What is not political in our country :giggle:
randomGuy Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 We have to pay them back in some way don't we? Yes but in long term. And in that time, using that capital, new ecosystems, new assets and new lucrative avenues of investment get created. All that is required is proper policy, honesty, professionalism, enterprise, drive and dynamism.
zumi Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 definitely a good project, great way to pay tribute to Sardar.
Crookbond Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I would think that the country would be better off if leaders started following the principles of great men like Gandhi' date=' Patel etc rather than going for such symbolic gestures which don't help anybody and result in enormous waste of public money.[/quote'] If only ...
diga Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I would think that the country would be better off if leaders started following the principles of great men like Gandhi' date=' Patel etc rather than going for such symbolic gestures which don't help anybody and result in enormous waste of public money.[/quote'] if only they had disbanded Congress after independence...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 A certain leader hijacked the congress post Gandhi and since then its been a torture. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 2
diga Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Compared to the general level of public discourse in the country, nowadays reduced to twitter hashtags of Feku and Pappu, it is a matter of some rejoice when larger questions of history, and the proper place of national icons is being debated with such fervour. Sardar Patel's legacy was undoubtably the force behind knitting Indian nation into a political and administrative whole, a difficult task which he accomplished with astonishing skill. That he did as a member of Jawaharlal Nehru's first Cabinet, and as a lifelong adherent to the ideology of the Congress. These facts should have made the BJP's attempts to co-opt Patel into their pantheon of icons a non-starter of an enterprise. But it hasn't. For many years now, the BJP has professed great admiration for Patel's muscular and decisive leadership style. According to BJP, he was the true Loh Purush India, a better model to be emulated than Nehru, who has been castigated by the party for giving a leftward tilt to India's economic policy and strategic blunders over Kashmir. Congress has only itself to blame for letting rivals poach icons.The BJP and the RSS as a whole has always favoured a more muscular kind of politics, and have found Patel an interesting counter point to a more soft Nehruvian approach. That is not the surprising part of this tale. On Tuesday, as Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi sparred over the ownership of the Sardar's legacy, the only question needed to be asked is what took the Congress so long to stamp their claim. Much before Devkanta Barooah's statement of "Indira is India and India is Indira" during the Emergency years, the Congress had stopped what is loosely referred to as cultural politics. The kind of politics which made Bal Gangadhar Tilak turn the Ganeshotsav into a nationalist festival, which re-looked at the sepoy mutiny of 1857 as the first war of India's independence, which turned salt into a powerful symbol of anti-imperialist struggle. Throughout the 1950s and 1960s the Congress did cling on to some measure of catholicity in the issues it took up. From the right wing utterances of Purushottam Das Tandon, who beat the Jan Sangh to the post when the latter tried to whip up the cow slaughter issue to the socialist minded Rafi Ahmad Kidwai and his band of "Rafians", the Congress meant many things to many people. Kidwai, as food minister in Nehru's Cabinet had helped avert many a food crisis, a fact which should have echoed while clearing the Food Security Bill. In the last two or three decades, less and less has been heard of these and other leaders of the independence movement, Congressmen and women all. A perfect opportunity for other parties to poach at will, and appropriate legacies. Not just Patel, open season has now been declared on Babu Jagjiwan Ram, not just by the BJP's Scheduled Caste Morcha, but by the Bahujan Samaj Party as well, which has found virtues in Jagjivan Ram's sterling record in administration. This despite the fact that Kanshi Ram had referred to Jagjivan Ram in a rather derogatory way in his book "Chamcha Yug." By being myopic about their own history, and confining it to a few stories, the Congress has helped perpetuate the myth of hurt feelings and thwarted ambition which surrounds Patel today. In this they do injustice to a great leader but also a committed Congressman who helped shaped modern India. The Congress had better turn the searchlight upon itself in its search for reasons on why their cupboard looks threadbare.
Crookbond Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Raat gayi, baat gayi. Statue of Unity project rusts, no new iron in 2 months http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/statue-of-unity-project-rusts-no-new-iron-in-2-months/ Records at the SSNNL office in Narmada Bhavan in Vadodara show 16 states have contributed zero iron tools to the project, which was an important part of Narendra Modi’s campaign for prime ministership. Some of these states are BJP ruled — Rajasthan, for example, has sent nothing. ... Uttar Pradesh has contributed the largest number of kits — 40,000 — beating Modi’s home state Gujarat to the second place with 33,000 kits. ... According to the Statue of Unity web site, technical bids were to be opened on January 31. Asked about the delay, SSNNL managing director J N Singh said, “We will be opening tender bids in 10 days’ time, and work will start soon”.
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