Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 well even dhoni cant pick only players from his rhiti or franchise!! But if he could he would why can't he?after all hes got the backing of Srini so can do anything,no? why aren't guys like Badrinath given chance despite good FC records?why hasnt Raina played Test since 2011 now?
CG Posted February 13, 2014 Author Posted February 13, 2014 lol Rohit has got endless chances in ODIs.you really wanna justify his place by performance v WI:cantstop: I agree Dhoni is stubborn and clueless and should be sacked from Tests atleast.but that doesnt mean hes corrupt hes done the same before to guys like Yuvraj/GG.He likes to give long ropes to players he believes in.Simple.Its not like hes giving them to only CSK/Rhiti guys U understand conflict of interest ?There should not be even a single doubt he gains benefit from selecting or picking players.Until he is involved in diff ventures with rhiti there will always be doubts and thats the fact.
Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Dhoni has this bad habit of persisting with someone for wayy too long. Be it Pissant or Bhajji or Raina or Gambhir' date=' even sehwag to some extent in tests. He just tries to give the confidence to the players that they won't be dropped if they don't perfrom, only in the last resort he drops them. on the other hand his long ropes are affecting other players chances, resulting in fans outrage and all sorts of conspiracys from media (some just believe anything media says) .[/quote'] fans are generally too impatient as they only look at stats etc and have no interaction with players and dont know inside things captain has to deal with actual players.also everyone has his own style
Detonator Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 So lets get this straight. You dont think the cpatain of india have ing a mangt company, with many players signed up to it, does not compromise his selction of the team ? You dont think the indian cpatain having a mangt company which runs the brand rights etc for CSK a IPL franchise does not compromise his selction of the team? I mean really!!! The only thing is that there is no evidence for his shares in the sports company.
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Clearly many have not heard of concept conflict of interest!! Its there to stop bias in many walks of life. O well many dont live in real world. Many cant see link and conflict of interest between daddy being on selction panel and son getting picked for India Cant see captain having players managt group and how that can influence his selction BCCI chairma having IPL team and so does every=thing inlcluding player selction to boost his IPL team. CONFLICT OF INTEREST GUYS. wake up!! Its a concept many indian dont get. We are not meant to take someones word they are not bias. The rules are there to stop conflict of interest so there cant possibly be bias. How dhoni is getting away with this and even getting foolish naive fans to back him in his blatant conflict of interests is mind boggling
Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 U understand conflict of interest ?There should not be even a single doubt he gains benefit from selecting or picking players.Until he is involved in diff ventures with rhiti there will always be doubts and thats the fact. you don't call someone corrupt on doubts. also as I said hes given ropes to other players too.thats just his style.
velu Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 conflcit of interest starts from PM office ...
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 why can't he?after all hes got the backing of Srini so can do anything,no? why aren't guys like Badrinath given chance despite good FC records?why hasnt Raina played Test since 2011 now? raina grade A contract :hysterical: What more evidence you need??? Like you state not in test team but gets grade A:giggle:
CG Posted February 13, 2014 Author Posted February 13, 2014 Too much nonsense about perjury and oath by the usual imbeciles. It was your standard run-of-the-mill SC instituted inquiry with a very limited term of reference and even more limited powers of investigation. I mean, Justice Mudgal did not even have the power to summon an individual. So all that speculative and uninformed nonsense about Dhoni "lying" under oath or committing perjury tells only about the bias and idiocy of people spewing them. Wrt GM, what he represented himself as, or what privileges CSK allowed him during the IPL is definitely material but FAR from conclusive evidence. For example, Ambani's son perhaps has an even deeper access to MI team set up than GM, but assuming Ambani Jr does not have a formal role with MI, Rohit would be similarly justified in saying he is a mere enthusiast. The GM case is a little more complicated than that insofar India Cements allowed GM to represent himself as acting on behalf of the team to the public at large. But was it indeed the case? That's FAR from established. The Mudgal report has an extremely weak case against CSK itself, although a cogent case against GM, in his personal capacity. There are NO legal documents like employment contract or partnership deed clearly establishing GM's role with CSK/India Cement. There's NOTHING against Srinivasan/CSK/India Cements beyond the statements by players that he had access to dressing room and a few letter heads and visiting cards bearing GM's name. It's some evidence but not even close to the required comprehensive, nail-in-the-coffin evidence. Nothing can be held against Dhoni, then, for his statement before the Mudgal panel. You should know more legally .But that does not mean it was right thing to do . .G.m was involved in cricketing affairs in a large capacity as he himself alluded to in interview,pressers,auctions and they told that he and nothing to do with circketing affairs.
velu Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 raina grade A contract :hysterical: What more evidence you need??? Like you state not in test team but gets grade A:giggle: he is one of the crucial performers for our limited overs kriket.. KT .. ur hate for raina seems to be out of bounds ( just opposte to ur love for rohit ) :giggle:
Detonator Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 fans are generally too impatient as they only look at stats etc and have no interaction with players and dont know inside things captain has to deal with actual players.also everyone has his own style excatly. It's just hard to dismiss someone becoz he didn't play in 1 match. just imagine if a captain just pops in players and drops them next match like playing rummy. it's even uglier. :giggle:
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 conflcit of interest starts from PM office ... Yes it all over India A thousand wrongs dont make a right though.
Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 raina grade A contract :hysterical: What more evidence you need??? Like you state not in test team but gets grade A:giggle: Dhoni decides the contracts?
CG Posted February 13, 2014 Author Posted February 13, 2014 you don't call someone corrupt on doubts. also as I said hes given ropes to other players too.thats just his style. That does not matter as a indian captain he should be above all .If u knowingly have stake where u benefit from a particular selection its corruption.Its the least dhoni would do is to scrap ties with rhiti.
Detonator Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 That does not matter as a indian captain he should be above all .If u knowingly have stake where u benefit from a particular selection its corruption.Its the least dhoni would do is to scrap ties with rhiti. :hysterical: :hysterical:
Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 That does not matter as a indian captain he should be above all .If u knowingly have stake where u benefit from a particular selection its corruption.Its the least dhoni would do is to scrap ties with rhiti. are you sure hes still with Rhiti? as Shazam said in post #268,theres no real evidence of even his shareholding except few media reports
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Dhoni decides the contracts? Am sure his godafther sreeni has massive say, along with dhobi whispering in his ear Srini and dhoni have one common cause. Boost their finances. Boost CSK. Or are you now going to say that BCCI chariaman owning franchise is not conflcit of interests. That srini is not more interested in boosting his csk then indian team. Have you guys not lived in the world? Human nature is naturally seflsh and greedy. Thats why one has laws in place, to stop tempation. Thats why rules are in place in may walks of life on conflict of interest to stop natural human bias and greed. But apparently to many dhoni is some kind of god, who cant be tempted by norma human temptaions like greed and hunger for money. I think flying in RP singh from literally no were shows the tempatations that lie with not adhering to no conflict of interest priniciple
King Tendulkar Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 are you sure hes still with Rhiti? as Shazam said in post #268,theres no real evidence of even his shareholding except few media reports Yes and there is no evidence srinivasan owns a IPL team and has conflict of interest. After all he does not own csk, indian cements does!!! Jeeez wake up
CG Posted February 13, 2014 Author Posted February 13, 2014 are you sure hes still with Rhiti? as Shazam said in post #268,theres no real evidence of even his shareholding except few media reports He is still managed by rhiti and has joint venture compoanies with rhiti.
Lord Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Am sure his godafther sreeni has massive say, along with dhobi whispering in his ear Srini and dhoni have one common cause. Boost their finances. Boost CSK. Or are you now going to say that BCCI chariaman owning franchise is not conflcit of interests. That srini is not more interested in boosting his csk then indian team. Have you guys not lived in the world? Human nature is naturally seflsh and greedy. Thats why one has laws in place, to stop tempation. Thats why rules are in place in may walks of life on conflict of interest to stop natural human bias and greed. But apparently to many dhoni is some kind of god, who cant be tempted by norma human temptaions like greed and hunger for money. I think flying in RP singh from literally no were shows the tempatations that lie with not adhering to no conflict of interest priniciple whos talking about Srini?:dontknow: you are sure that Dhoni has a say in contracts because?any real reasons or your guts say that?
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