Patriotism and sports

[Rajiv]

CC, you can't control yourself can you

[Ram]

This is insanely hilarious ! Bongosamaj actually has an imposter who diligently hacked his ID in CC.com and makes it a point to copy paste exactly what he posts here and has a debating style exactly similar to Bongosamaj himself ( including the "duhs" and "pfffftt"). And ladies and gentleman , the sun rises in the west !

[Ram]

This is very important because being the self-righteous individual that BS is( short form of Bongosamaj that is), with an openly declared motive of exposing people who lie , I am quite sure he is definitely telling the truth and nothing but the truth. And just so that people keep marveling at the amazing co-incidence in the similarity of the posts made by BS here in ICF and WIfan in CC.com , i am inclined to copy paste some more excerpts. 1) Dated , 11.1.07 , well past the two year time line since BS claimed he stopped posting in CC.com. "Err, no, that is NOT my quote. I said rhythm and melody are integral to harmony. 2) "Wrong assumption, chumpie. That would require you to assume that i treat wealth & sexuality with the same perspective. I don't. frigging-DUH! I am quite fine having different standards on different categories. " 3)" Its too early in the morning for me to engage a cretin like you! Shoo! " And ofcourse there many more , which i wont bother to paste here. As someone who has debated with BS on a variety of topics starting from weapons systems, to Ind-China to even South Asian history , i can personally vouch that is indeed , eerily similar to BS' writing style. Its actually surreal to think BS has such an ardent fan to his writing style, to the point of that guy even copying his expletives and exclamations ! Wow !

[Ram]

I am sincerely hoping on BS to come back and explain how any person could be jobless enough to copy his posts/debating/writing style and post it somewhere else. Lets see..

[Dhondy]

Gee, why all the deletions on this thread? CC, let's move over to the stats thread and continue our discussions. I am genuinely interested in finding out what sort of measurement errors you had in mind when referring to cricket stats, as run by Boss. I am slightly dull, so you may have to repeat a few things. Should make for a fascinating discussion.

[Gambit]

Umm dude..the riots started coz someone got drunk and got rowdy....trust me' date=' there is very little regionalism/localism/city-ism in North American sports...nothing different south of the border either.You don't see sports-gang stuff here or any sort of sports-based riots/killings...the that happened in Vancouver 14-15 yrs ago still happens every other year in a rock concert or some other place...basically anywhere with booze where people get rowdy and happens...its NOT a sports-related phenomena!For sporting jingoism, try India or Australia for cricket and Europe for soccer or Rugby.[/quote'] Why are you going to great lengths to excuse this incident? Just because it happened in beloved Canada? People got rowdy because their team got trashed. See the correlation between the result and the OTT reaction?

Categoric lie. Indian cricket fans have destroyed a stadium multiple number of times because of their inability to deal with the outcome of a sport.

Maybe you should read again what I said here:

So why were there riots? Indian fans have never rioted in a city and destroyed public property after a loss. In a stadium yes but never ever in a city.

Indian fans have never destroyed public property in a city like your beloved Canadians did. I have mentioned a stadium but not outside of it.

To most sports fans, sports matters...where you get the idea that most people are sports fans is beyond me, it is a significant part of society but by no means a majority... And yes, most sports-fans are pretty nutty to begin with.

In the first world, atleast 50% of males between 12 and 50 have to be sports fans. That is pretty much evident given the attendances in games, sports discussions in workplaces, schools etc.

[Gambit]

Now, lets come to your hilarious WIFan denial. :hysterical:

As i said, it aint me baby. But glad to see atleast some Indians/Indian imposter thinks on the same frequency as i do.

So you are saying that there is either another Indo-Canadian Bengali living in Canada, owning an SKS rifle, professing Buddhism, having a singer for a mother, posting the same stuff about Jazz or that some loser clones your posts and your ideas from here? You really do insult everyone's intelligence here. Given how most people have taken the 'expose', fair to say your sham doesn't hold up.

well anyways...as far as CC.com goes- i spent a few yrs there long ago and if you have been too, i am sure you know that many of the userIDs there are fakes/multiple IDs....There was the Biggie-->Ryan thing IIRC...one of the main reasons i quit the site, coz i didnt know who i was talking to.

Some more links for everyone to enjoy :D WIFan by Day:

And considering the FACT that genetically/DNA-wise, 'race' does not exist, i am looking forward to just how a person would link 'racial traits' on genetic basis.

http://caribbeancricket.com/topic/868155/2 Bongo by night:

Besides, since technically speaking 'race' does not even exist, i wonder how the 'scientist' will justify a racial trait on genetic basis.

http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=50363 That too on the same day WIFan professing love for Ubuntu : http://caribbeancricket.com/topic/868670

Once you have automatix, you can play around with a zillion different applications that you might need- word,notepad,wordpad,excel,acrobat reader, zipper/rar-er, chat proggy, skype,photoshop,scanner, dvd player, dvd burning software, etc etc. - ALL for free. And none of these softwares will make the system crash on you like it happens in Winblowz ( i've run ubuntu for 6 months now and it hasn't crashed on me ONCE).

Our Bongo bhai doing the same: http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=62482

Ubuntu is a linux-based free operating system that comes with regular software updates and entire suite of custom-made softwares- like word/excel/notepad/photoshop, games, dvd burner, movie-maker, dvd player programs, etc etc- all for FREE. It runs way faster and better than Winblowz and you gotto be a real dumb tosser to crash Ubuntu- i am not a computer geek and i've had ubuntu for over 6 months now and it hasnt crashed on me even ONCE.

The catch? WIFan posted that ubuntu stuff on 26th Oct. Bongo bhai on 8th Nov. :withstupid: Who is stalking whom I wonder?

I don't see the relevance, consdering i'd declared that many yrs earlier in the original ICF...as i said, that site is pretty amazing at running imposters/lifting comments around from elsewhere, which is one of the main reasons i said aloha there quite some yrs ago.

The relevance is simple. You claim to be above such 'moronic' sporting patriotic ties here but on caribbeancricket you relentlessly defend the Indian team and SRT/RD. Your self righteous and holier than thou attitude is what I'm exposing here. You claim to be above sporting ties with India and call others morons and losers for ardently supporting India yet on CaribbeanCricket you follow a crazed mission to defend the Indian team and SRT/RD. The most hilarious part is the story about timestamps. :hysterical: You are quite the spinner of yarn. But then again you are known to lie through your teeth. Would you folks believe this? People on CaribbeanCricket were debating Dujon's skills as a wicketkeeper and our friend butted in saying Dujon was a bad keeper as he(CC/WIFan) had spoken to his 'English' friends who had seen Dujon keep in county cricket. The catch? Dujon never played county cricket. :hysterical: There are lots and lots more yarns this guy has spun. :cantstop:

[Gambit]

This is very important because being the self-righteous individual that BS is( short form of Bongosamaj that is), with an openly declared motive of exposing people who lie , I am quite sure he is definitely telling the truth and nothing but the truth. And just so that people keep marveling at the amazing co-incidence in the similarity of the posts made by BS here in ICF and WIfan in CC.com , i am inclined to copy paste some more excerpts. 1) Dated , 11.1.07 , well past the two year time line since BS claimed he stopped posting in CC.com. "Err, no, that is NOT my quote. I said rhythm and melody are integral to harmony. 2) "Wrong assumption, chumpie. That would require you to assume that i treat wealth & sexuality with the same perspective. I don't. frigging-DUH! I am quite fine having different standards on different categories. " 3)" Its too early in the morning for me to engage a cretin like you! Shoo! " And ofcourse there many more , which i wont bother to paste here. As someone who has debated with BS on a variety of topics starting from weapons systems, to Ind-China to even South Asian history , i can personally vouch that is indeed , eerily similar to BS' writing style. Its actually surreal to think BS has such an ardent fan to his writing style, to the point of that guy even copying his expletives and exclamations ! Wow !

He really thinks we are the most gullible people in the world doesn't he? :D

[Predator_05]

This is insanely hilarious ! Bongosamaj actually has an imposter who diligently hacked his ID in CC.com and makes it a point to copy paste exactly what he posts here and has a debating style exactly similar to Bongosamaj himself ( including the "duhs" and "pfffftt"). !

Alright, alright - i'll confess. It was ME. Yes, I was the imposter. I would bookmark CC's posts and then paste them there, right down to the slightest mannerism. Although I think i almost got found out when i said that Rabrindranath Tagore was from Jharkhand

[Dhondy]

Alright, alright - i'll confess. It was ME. Yes, I was the imposter. I would bookmark CC's posts and then paste them there, right down to the slightest mannerism. Although I think i almost got found out when i said that Rabrindranath Tagore was from Jharkhand

:hysterical::hysterical: Nothing beats this place for sheer entertainment. Who needs soap operas!

[Bumper]

Sheesh, what a thread! Entertainment to die for.

Alright, alright - i'll confess. It was ME. Yes, I was the imposter. I would bookmark CC's posts and then paste them there, right down to the slightest mannerism. Although I think i almost got found out when i said that Rabrindranath Tagore was from Jharkhand

:hysterical::hysterical:

[Bumper]

CC its a futile exercise trying to convince anyone that you didnt make all those posts as WIFan (@ CC.com) anymore. Ur best defense would have been that you werent WIFan, but you spilled the nuggets (in your first response post to Gambit) in a hurry. Save your energy for another debate. You are losing this one.

[Ram]

For someone who loses no opportunity to sermon people online on what to do / how not to lie / blah blah...../ how to sh!t , he does come across as THE most bare-faced lier i have seen. And to think he still keeps up with his nonsense ,when its been proved without a semblance of doubt that "he" is "him" and "him" is "he" I expect him to do three things now. 1) Just totally give this board a miss from now on, knowing that his two-bit lies have been found out badly 2) Come here and start abusing people left, right and center, which is his wont , realizing that maybe that is his only avenue at getting something back 3) Do the right thing , accept what he did and get a move on. Whats are the chances that he will do the first two, rather than the last one ? Dude BS , I massively appreciate your passion for debating/knowledge/googling skills/typing speed, but you know what NEVER EVER agan play this Messiah, going around "exposing" people who lie and have a twisted attitude in life. That is biggest joke i have ever seen in my life !

[Lurker]

Alright chaps give it a rest. If you folks are enlightened about someone why not keep that in mind the next time you are debating with him/her? Surely you do realize that if you push a person too much there is a good chance that he/she might just vanish never to appear again. I dont quite see how a website gains from it. I am not sure about you guys but I would much rather have a poster, howsoever good or bad, than have him move to a different website for good. Just for the records I would like to say it is extremely childish to discuss someone's performance on a different board. Judge a person by what he does right here, anything outside of it should be beyond jurisdiction.

[Dhondy]

I am not sure about you guys but I would much rather have a poster' date=' howsoever good or bad, than have him move to a different website for good.[/quote'] Amen to that. CC is as intelligent as they come, an excellent poster (although no match for Gambit:D ), and has a lot to give this site. I enjoy a lot of his posts. The ones I don't enjoy are when he gets personal with Boss, who has contributed a huge deal to this website, possibly the most among all founders. I'd request CC to wow us with some fantastic posts, like the one he made on that Sikh regiment who single handedly ousted a platoon of Pathans. Or the write-up on Senna & Prost (what a piece that was!)...I even enjoyed his desecration of Rama with some well made points about the latter's follies.

[Bumper]

Alright chaps give it a rest. If you folks are enlightened about someone why not keep that in mind the next time you are debating with him/her? Surely you do realize that if you push a person too much there is a good chance that he/she might just vanish never to appear again. I dont quite see how a website gains from it. I am not sure about you guys but I would much rather have a poster, howsoever good or bad, than have him move to a different website for good. Just for the records I would like to say it is extremely childish to discuss someone's performance on a different board. Judge a person by what he does right here, anything outside of it should be beyond jurisdiction.

CC is a big boy Lurker. Am sure he will take such threads in his stride & come back stronger. Its all part of MB debates. Sometimes u win & come across as invincible, sometimes you cop a one sided loss. CC knows that he has to expect all kinds of reactions from the board. He has been posting on MBs long enough to understand this

[Lurker]

CC is a big boy Lurker. Am sure he will take such threads in his stride & come back stronger. Its all part of MB debates. Sometimes u win & come across as invincible' date=' sometimes you cop a one sided loss. CC knows that he has to expect all kinds of reactions from the board. He has been posting on MBs long enough to understand this[/quote'] Thats not my only worry Bumper. Yes I do hope that no poster leaves ICF but I would also say that after a while people start making their own ideas about guys on a MB. Which in turn means that often posters are read and not the posts. Which means that tomorrow say CC makes a good post it shall still evoke no response because those that stand in opposition to him today would not even read it. See my point? Yes fights and altercations are part of MB, and most of us realize it. But at some point each one of us also has to think what is bigger - his/her ego or the website? I am sure all of us have been in situations where website suffers due to clashing egos. This goes for everyone, and not only CC. Too often I have stepped my foot from the pedal simply because if I pushed more the other person would be at a great discomfort. Whats the point? Surely we are here to have fun and go back to work/life fresher rather than be mad here and get home stressed? Anyway thats that, dont mean to go a lecturing mode and all. xxx

[fineleg]

Why has CC not replied to the above posts yet? Usually I see quick replies.

[Bumper]

Thats not my only worry Bumper. Yes I do hope that no poster leaves ICF but I would also say that after a while people start making their own ideas about guys on a MB. Which in turn means that often posters are read and not the posts. Which means that tomorrow say CC makes a good post it shall still evoke no response because those that stand in opposition to him today would not even read it. See my point? Yes fights and altercations are part of MB, and most of us realize it. But at some point each one of us also has to think what is bigger - his/her ego or the website? I am sure all of us have been in situations where website suffers due to clashing egos. This goes for everyone, and not only CC. Too often I have stepped my foot from the pedal simply because if I pushed more the other person would be at a great discomfort. Whats the point? Surely we are here to have fun and go back to work/life fresher rather than be mad here and get home stressed? Anyway thats that, dont mean to go a lecturing mode and all. xxx

Good points Lurker. CC is no wuzz, he's been a long time MB-er. He will be back. Our posters are mature enough to not hold what he said on other MBs against him.

[Gambit]

Would these be the same non nationalistic Canadians you talked about CC? M4TC56-6oVE

Another instance.

Police cars burned, stores looted in Montreal hockey riot Last Updated: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 | 10:57 AM ET Comments369Recommend367 CBC News Police say 16 people have been arrested after riotous celebrations swept through downtown Montreal late Monday night, leaving a trail of burned police cars and vandalized shops. Thousands rushed to the streets for initially peaceful celebrations following the Montreal Canadiens' seventh-game win over the Boston Bruins, which advances Montreal to the next round of the NHL playoffs. The jubilation degenerated into mayhem around midnight, however, as some hockey fans turned violent. "It started pretty well," police spokesman Const. Laurent Gingras told CBC News Tuesday. "Unfortunately, at a certain point some people gathered on Ste. Catherine Street. A couple fights broke out and police cars were also attacked at that point." A few hundred people, some intoxicated, marched down the downtown avenue, throwing rocks and bottles at police and torching vehicles, the CBC's Steve Rukavina reported from Montreal. 16 police cars damaged Despite increased police presence deployed to the streets before Monday night's game, rioters burnt or smashed 16 police cars as well as other vehicles, according to a preliminary police investigation. Damage to police cars is estimated at $500,000. Ten businesses were either vandalized or broken into, although Gingras said the damage was limited. "One minute we were all hanging out and celebrating and then all hell broke out," said Jean-François Hotte, who watched as a Foot Locker store was ransacked by looters. A liquor store was also hit. "It didn't take five minutes before everyone was up on Ste. Catherine Street. It went really fast." City police, backed up by riot squad officers, used pepper spray and batons to quell the crowd, which dispersed around 2 a.m. There were no reports of serious injuries. Gingras said it was not immediately clear if the rioters were just rowdy fans or others who "used the occasion to do their mischief." At least 16 people were detained and charged, including three minors, police said. Possible charges include break-and-enter, mischief against a police vehicle, assault against a police officer and numerous municipal bylaw violations. More charges are expected to be laid as police continue their probe, Chief Yvan Delorme told a news conference Tuesday. "The investigation will show us … that yes indeed there will be arrests in the future," he said. Suspects already in custody will appear in court Tuesday afternoon to face formal charges. A similar riot after a Stanley Cup victory in 1993 caused major damage. Gingras said that while the investigation is continuing, large numbers of police will be present before, during and after upcoming hockey matches at the Canadiens' home arena, the Bell Centre. With files from the Canadian Press

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2008/04/22/mtl-habs.html?ref=rss