gattaca Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 NOIDA: Apartments are usually targeted at particular income groups. But a developer in Greater Noida has narrowed down his focus group to a particular community. The builder, Adarsh Group, is promoting the apartments - Gulistaan Golf View Heights - as "dream homes for elite Muslim brotherhood". The apartments - 368 in all, priced at between Rs 2,500 and Rs 3,750 per sq feet - are coming up on 3.5 acres in Sports City, Greater Noida. It will have a mosque, a madrassa, and will face Qibla - the direction a Muslim faces when offering prayers. Construction is likely to begin by the end of this month. While this may be a sound business proposition, questions are being raised on whether this is an attempt at creating high-end ghettoes. But equally, some see this as a practical solution in a country where it is still often difficult for Muslims to rent or buy houses. "These are going to be dream houses for Muslims in Sports City," said Saleem Zafar, owner and CEO of Adarsh Group. "We have been able to make it a reality after a long struggle. A lot of our emotions are invested in this because we wish to give the Muslims of India an opportunity to experience a best-in-class living experience. They should move out from their colonies and shift into plush apartments like this." Despite the high sales pitch, not all Muslims find the idea exciting. "Being a Muslim myself, I don't want to live in an all-Muslim apartment complex," said Professor Shahid Jamal, head of the communications department at Shiv Nadar University. "Why should anyone prefer to live within a community of the same religion? Isn't that what ghettoes are all about?" he added. Renowned political scientist Imtiaz Ahmed said the idea of India is rooted in inclusion and integration of all communities. "But such an apartment complex, dedicated exclusively to a particular community, makes them more vulnerable in case of violence and disturbance. Besides, it goes against the constitutional ethos of the country," he added. But, Aftab Alam, a TV professional living in NCR for the past 14 years, feels there is logic behind this. "For Muslim families, listening to the azaan in the morning and evening is very significant. That's why most families try and live close to mosques. Also, celebrating festivals becomes difficult in mixed-community areas. Apart from this, it is not easy for a Muslim family to find a house in certain areas of Delhi as many landlords still have reservations about renting houses to Muslims, which forces them to rent houses in only Muslim-friendly areas of NCR." "We are very clear that by building Muslim-only apartments, our intention is to provide the Muslims of NCR a high-quality living experience, which is friendly to their culture. People of different communities have different lifestyles and an apartment with a mosque and madrassa would definitely be a great experience for the Muslim families who can afford to buy these flats. This is just a step towards the development of the community," Zafar added. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/noida/Muslims-only-apartments-coming-up-in-Greater-Noida/articleshow/41896330.cms?utm_source=TOInewHP_TILwidget&utm_medium=ABtest&utm_campaign=TOInewHP
gattaca Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 Where are we going ? I remember reading muslims in mumbai not given rented houses and now this.
Sachin=GOD Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Seriously man, WTF is happening in India in the name of religion....
velu Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 muslims find it difficult to get apartments for rent than others .. and its even difficult for them to buy an apartment .. so this is the solution
gattaca Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 muslims find it difficult to get apartments for rent than others .. and its even difficult for them to buy an apartment .. so this is the solution The whole point of a successful country is assimilation of various religions and cultures in to diverse multicultural society this is like going back stone age. This should not be allowed and also renting the places to Muslim communities should be encouraged.
FischerTal Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Problem is many Jains and some Hindu communities make many building complexes exclusive for their religion. So this is a natural response
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 muslims find it difficult to get apartments for rent than others .. and its even difficult for them to buy an apartment .. so this is the solution This is completely legal too. Zorastrarian Co-Op Housing Society Ltd vs District Registrar Co-Op Societies, 2005 the SC allowed such societies to exist. http://www.indiankanoon.com/doc/713373/
Sachin=GOD Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 muslims find it difficult to get apartments for rent than others .. and its even difficult for them to buy an apartment .. so this is the solution This is most certainly not the right solution.
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Problem is many Jains and some Hindu communities make many building complexes exclusive for their religion. So this is a natural response Thanks for pointing this out. :icflove:
gattaca Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 This is completely legal too. Zorastrarian Co-Op Housing Society Ltd vs District Registrar Co-Op Societies, 2005 the SC allowed such societies to exist. http://www.indiankanoon.com/doc/713373/ Poor decision from SC you dont see any such religion only in western countries
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Poor decision from SC you dont see any such religion only in western countries Actually, once again poor laws framed by the parliament. Under Article 12, a co-op housing society is not a "state" and therefore, isn't bound by Article 15 (non-discrimination of religion). Independently, article 19(1)c allows freedom of association. Now, draw your own conclusions.
velu Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 This is most certainly not the right solution. yes.. one of our roommate was a muslim and he got married some 3 or 4 years back.. when he started looking for a flat by himself every time the owners give some reasons to reject him.. then we approached a broker and he told owners wont prefer muslims mainly bcoz of religious reasons and other reason being the size of the muslim family..
velu Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 This is completely legal too. Zorastrarian Co-Op Housing Society Ltd vs District Registrar Co-Op Societies, 2005 the SC allowed such societies to exist. http://www.indiankanoon.com/doc/713373/ there are brahmin only societies/PG/GH exist in chennai .. many of my freinds told this
gattaca Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 Actually, once again poor laws framed by the parliament. Under Article 12, a co-op housing society is not a "state" and therefore, isn't bound by Article 15 (non-discrimination of religion). Independently, article 19(1)c allows freedom of association. Now, draw your own conclusions. I don't know why secular and non secular ones raise these laws for discussion. This against the whole concept of a united country.
Sachin=GOD Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 yes.. one of our roommate was a muslim and he got married some 3 or 4 years back.. when he started looking for a flat by himself every time the owners give some reasons to reject him.. then we approached a broker and he told owners wont prefer muslims mainly bcoz of religious reasons and other reason being the size of the muslim family.. I don't see this attitude changing unless the Govt. takes some action.
beetle Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Problem is many Jains and some Hindu communities make many building complexes exclusive for their religion. So this is a natural response Exclusive parsi ad catholic colonies too.
beetle Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 There are not just religion based ...caste based but also language based colonies.Bengali,marwari,rajisthani.garhwalli......you can find them all so why be shocked.Specially it is well known fact that a lot of muslims do find it difficult to rent and buy homes in residential areas. The genuine problems of a community have to be recognised if you want a solution. It is like blaming Rayadu when he is not allowed to take strike.
gattaca Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 There are not just religion based ...caste based but also language based colonies.Bengali,marwari,rajisthani.garhwalli......you can find them all so why be shocked.Specially it is well known fact that a lot of muslims do find it difficult to rent and buy homes in residential areas. The genuine problems of a community have to be recognised if you want a solution. It is like blaming Rayadu when he is not allowed to take strike. These things should never be allowed in the country. We are not Religion country like padosis the more these kind of places open up the more we will be divided.
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 I don't know why secular and non secular ones raise these laws for discussion. This against the whole concept of a united country. MPs/MLAs are a reflection of the society - the society doesn't want these laws, they are happy with it. Apna kaam chalta, toh bhaad mein jaaye junta
FischerTal Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 MPs/MLAs are a reflection of the society - the society doesn't want these laws' date=' they are happy with it. [i']Apna kaam chalta, toh bhaad mein jaaye junta Salman khan fan :hehe:
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