BlackMamba Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Now Indian express says according to their sources it were some petty smugglers not terrorists. That is a possibility. But No SMUGGLER will ever commit suicide. I have not heard of any smuggler who does that. They will surrender. Only people who are trained to commit suicide and destroy evidence are TERRORISTS.
panther Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 You are assuming that a full fledged war will take place.Secondly the Pak Army has lost 4 times to India and cannot win even in future thats why they have resorted to terrorism. The choice for Pak Army will be to let go off the terrorists or go to a full scale war with India in which that will face a defeat and in case they even think about Nukes will face total annihilation.Do you think those generals will be foolish to risk a full scale war plus nuke for a few thousand Jihadis?Right now they are basin their actions on the fact that India wont launch an attack. Do you know how the Pak PM ran to different countries in aftermath of 26/11 saying India will attack stop them etc etc etc. If anyone thinks that Pak will go nuclear if India takes out terrorists inside Pak territory then they are mistaken. Nuclear war is the destiny of The indian Subcontinent, after that Hind will be conquered, India will survive the war, the eastern, southern parts, but than an army from Afghanistan will come and conquer India. Maybe even the Indonesian and Bangali brothers will attack from the south and East?
gattaca Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Nuclear war is the destiny of The indian Subcontinent' date=' after that Hind will be conquered, India will survive the war, the eastern, southern parts, but than an army from [b']Afghanistan will come and conquer India. Maybe even the Indonesian and Bangali brothers will attack from the south and East? who is that mohd ghazni ?
Raghav_12 Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Nuclear war is the destiny of The indian Subcontinent, after that Hind will be conquered, India will survive the war, the eastern, southern parts, but than an army from Afghanistan will come and conquer India. Maybe even the Indonesian and Bangali brothers will attack from the south and East? :giggle::giggle: You need to stop smoking that thing.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Nuclear war is the destiny of The indian Subcontinent, after that Hind will be conquered, India will survive the war, the eastern, southern parts, but than an army from Afghanistan will come and conquer India. Maybe even the Indonesian and Bangali brothers will attack from the south and East? Keep dreaming and believing those fantasy stories given out by Zaid Hamid.
panther Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Keep dreaming and believing those fantasy stories given out by Zaid Hamid. Zaid hamid is a clown, and no scholar, I don't take my Information from him.
CSK Fan Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 That is a possibility. But No SMUGGLER will ever commit suicide. I have not heard of any smuggler who does that. They will surrender. Only people who are trained to commit suicide and destroy evidence are TERRORISTS. Except according to reports, they were just setting fire to the evidence. Boat caught fire and the men were alive for a long time. Coast guard couldn't rescue them because of bad weather
CSK Fan Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 You are assuming that a full fledged war will take place.Secondly the Pak Army has lost 4 times to India and cannot win even in future thats why they have resorted to terrorism. The choice for Pak Army will be to let go off the terrorists or go to a full scale war with India in which that will face a defeat and in case they even think about Nukes will face total annihilation.Do you think those generals will be foolish to risk a full scale war plus nuke for a few thousand Jihadis?Right now they are basin their actions on the fact that India wont launch an attack. Do you know how the Pak PM ran to different countries in aftermath of 26/11 saying India will attack stop them etc etc etc. If anyone thinks that Pak will go nuclear if India takes out terrorists inside Pak territory then they are mistaken. As I said, in case of a big defeat against India, they will lose face. So instead of a full scale war, they are going to give some of their nukes to the terrorists
CSK Fan Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Whatever critics may say under the present Government Indian armed forces and security establishment have grown a new spine. Indo-Pak border skirmishes and this incident of the Pakistani boat off the coast of Gujarat are great signs for our country's future. First time in 60+ years that India is giving it back to it's enemies with 'double the force' rather than ducking and weaving. UPA government issued orders to the army to duck when Pakistanis would fire' date=' Namo govt has given license to the army to fire back in case of provocation, this shows who the patriots are and more importantly who the traitor scum are. Arvind Kejriwal and Sonia Gandhi mourn for Batla house terrorists,Sohrabuddin,Ishrat Jahan and are on the same page as Hurriyat regarding the future of Kashmir, while Namo,Parrikar,Jaitley want to eliminate these terrorist b@stards from the earth for eternity; patriotic Indians take your call who best serves India's interests.[/quote'] Wait, more soldiers being killed on LOC is suddenly a good thing and giving back? We have had 100 times more firing on Indian troops than previously, And this was a smuggling attempt gone bad And how soon we forget BJP government on their knees and releasing terrorists who murdered our soldiers based on a single hijacking Let's not try to romanticize something which is not real. We have always been a soft nation, no matter what the government. Some firing across the border doesn't change a thing. Empty rhetoric like a teenager on hormones is not the solution to any problem
Number Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Wait, more soldiers being killed on LOC is suddenly a good thing and giving back? We have had 100 times more firing on Indian troops than previously, And this was a smuggling attempt gone bad And how soon we forget BJP government on their knees and releasing terrorists who murdered our soldiers based on a single hijacking Let's not try to romanticize something which is not real. We have always been a soft nation, no matter what the government. Some firing across the border doesn't change a thing. Empty rhetoric like a teenager on hormones is not the solution to any problem And what they should have done ? Let the hostages get killed? I for one, would vote for such govt. who will at least rescue me if I am in a hijacked plane than the one which keeps criticizing the decision to do so.
gattaca Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Who are they? 1) Pakistani public? - No, they are not hostile to India. However, they have been fed so much misinformation and propaganda by the army that niw they cannot think independently. So they are a big believer in conspiracy theories no matter what the evidence to the contrary 2) Pakistan government? - The civilian government power is very limited. Army is calling the shots as they do. So they would rather be corrupt and loot money 3) The army? - They have always been the real culprits. They caused Kargil when Sharif wanted to sign the peace agreement. Peace with India is the last thing the army wants. Their entire source of existence, wealth and power will disappear the day there is peace. Their army didn't they loose their children in that attack. Considering they run the proxy government there when will they change.
BlackMamba Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Except according to reports' date=' they were just setting fire to the evidence. Boat caught fire and the men were alive for a long time. Coast guard couldn't rescue them because of bad weather[/quote'] That sounds funny and funky ! Multiple things don't make sense about your theory I know the Pakis are dumb, but it hard for me to believe that they are dumb not to realize that the WOODEN boat will catch fire, if you set up a fire on board ! And even when the boat was on fire, why did they not jump off ? And clearly they were carrying explosives, and even if they themselves were not terrorists, it was clear something explosive and dangerous was being transported !
Number Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Why is it so hard to believe for some that it could have been a terror operation ? It is Pakistan we are talking about not Switzerland.
gattaca Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Wait, more soldiers being killed on LOC is suddenly a good thing and giving back? We have had 100 times more firing on Indian troops than previously, And this was a smuggling attempt gone bad And how soon we forget BJP government on their knees and releasing terrorists who murdered our soldiers based on a single hijacking Let's not try to romanticize something which is not real. We have always been a soft nation, no matter what the government. Some firing across the border doesn't change a thing. Empty rhetoric like a teenager on hormones is not the solution to any problem Even Dawood got explosives from Pakistan during 93 attacks through boats.
surajmal Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Wait, more soldiers being killed on LOC is suddenly a good thing and giving back? We have had 100 times more firing on Indian troops than previously, And this was a smuggling attempt gone bad And how soon we forget BJP government on their knees and releasing terrorists who murdered our soldiers based on a single hijacking Let's not try to romanticize something which is not real. We have always been a soft nation, no matter what the government. Some firing across the border doesn't change a thing. Empty rhetoric like a teenager on hormones is not the solution to any problem Perpetrators of terrorists attacks in India is Paki army - the biggest jihadi institution in the world. Letting 5 piddly terrorists go (or not) makes no difference to their larger designs.
Shivaji bhonsle Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Why is it so hard to believe for some that it could have been a terror operation ? It is Pakistan we are talking about not Switzerland. that's a valid point. +1
Vilander Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 The worst thing that could happen is an unstable Pakistan.Looking at what has happened in Syria and Iraq one can deduce that the Pakistani army at-least prevents outright jihadi thugs like ISIL, there has to be some form of rapprochement and it has to be pursued no matter what, at the same time we have to pragmatically deal with expectations on Pakistan they are a warped and radicalized society built on India hate, there is only one way to combat this hate permanently it is to empower their civil society economically politically and through back channels, when ever India makes any concessions those have to be done for a Pakistani liberal ideologue however fancy and unimportant they may be in the power structure that interacts with India, India could seek international means to lobby leaders and sponsor their civil movements all this needs to be done in a covert way. War is upon us its a different war, we better be prepared to do the hard yards, else it could be a dirty jihadi scum only nuclear armed.
Vilander Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Nuclear war is the destiny of The indian Subcontinent, after that Hind will be conquered, India will survive the war, the eastern, southern parts, but than an army from Afghanistan will come and conquer India. Maybe even the Indonesian and Bangali brothers will attack from the south and East? India has 3.5 million soldiers, there is no army on Earth that can assault and win against in on ground, land invasion of India,China,USA is not possible, Russia outside possibility because of their huge land area.
Vilander Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Pak Generals living in luxury dont have the balls to go nuclear.They knw they face total annihilation if they do so.About time someone calls their bluff. Actually its very interesting to see NDA2's policy sofar in this respect,NDA1(Vajpaee) and then UPA was always trying to predict Pakistani move and counter it, pakistan played the irrational gainer and kept changing its persona there was no clear clear dominant strategy. But now it appears Modi's NDA2 is gaining, they are just raising the cost, as the cost for being irrational becomes bigger and bigger then it becomes a more perfect rational playing field which is what India is good at. Just raise the cost, 4 boats needed to infiltrate India, they kill 1 soldier we kill 4, more terrorists needed to infiltrate..this should keep increasing there should be a huge cost unbearable cost, then they will try to play rationally and defeat India. That is when we can predict them and beat them terminally.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Actually its very interesting to see NDA2's policy sofar in this respect' date='NDA1(Vajpaee) and then UPA was always trying to predict Pakistani move and counter it, pakistan played the irrational gainer and kept changing its persona there was no clear clear dominant strategy. But now it appears Modi's NDA2 is gaining, they are just raising the cost, as the cost for being irrational becomes bigger and bigger then it becomes a more perfect rational playing field which is what India is good at. Just raise the cost, 4 boats needed to infiltrate India, they kill 1 soldier we kill 4, more terrorists needed to infiltrate..this should keep increasing there should be a huge cost unbearable cost, then they will try to play rationally and defeat India. That is when we can predict them and beat them terminally.[/quote'] As Jaitley said,"We will make the cost of the adventures unbearable for Pakistan".
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